Well for me: Arsenal -OK to expensive at 1300.00+, M70 Quite Good but now no longer made, The SAR 95...a Milled Thumb hole was the Best AK I ever Owned..Styer Barrel, Nice machine work, their 1300.00 if you can find them. For 2000.00 + or so Valmets are Outstanding rifles. Notice all are Used/no longer made. I would Not buy anything New ..just my 2 cents. Forget Pre post ban Stuff...its all going to become a Ban item sooner or later. Oh Yea Chinese Ak are fair at best...I Shoot a Older Galil myself .... and my M 70 folder.