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Old 05-24-2020, 09:20 PM
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If you arrive at that tiniest of probabilities, that you actually have to shoot them, hoping he will change his thoughts is suicidal. You better put him down as fast as possible. I recommend double ought, if you are going to use a shotgun.

Ballistic personal defense weapons work by penetration. You will NOT get penetration from bird shot.

Y'all trying to figure out how to keep a weapon that works by penetration from penetrating is a strange errand.
At normal room distance found in most homes you will get penetration with birdshot. Read my post # 12. That's first hand experience seeing #6 low brass 20 ga in action. That load penetrated the thickness of his body and we found the wad against his spine. The hole was the size of a golf ball. The shot pattern did not expand. At that distance that 7/8 oz of shot acted just like a slug. Why? Because at close range like in most bedrooms that shot is still in the shot cup. It's all together. It's traveling the same speed as a slug and it's still together. He couldn't have gotten any deader had he been shot with a 10ga slug.
At short range which is normally found in most homes the shot column does not have enough distance to open. It acts just like a slug. A 1 oz load of birdshot in a shot cup that doesn't yet start opening the pattern is still a 1 oz load. That pattern is not open as soon as it leaves the muzzle. The shot column travels a bit and starts opening. It is going to penetrate because the load is still together. It's not 1 oz of 200+ shot making penetration. It's a 1 oz still together in a shot cup making penetration.
We've shot quite a bit of pork shoulders and beef halves demonstrating the effect. People are surprised at what they see because they've listened to internet experts who have never seen actual results.
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