Fiocchi is all that's commercially available to me. I've heard it's good brass and as I get the money together, I'll buy bullets, propellant, dies, and primers and start stuffing my own. Fiocchi gives a MV of 820 and ME of 369 ft.lbs. I'd like to work up a load with Trail boss or Pyrodex that packs more "oomph" but stays within the safe range.