Went to college from 75-79. While there met a dorm room mate who was making knives, at the time stock removal. We became friends and the friendship continues today. He is now a very talented gunsmith and rarely makes a knife. He turned his knife making to the forge and became one of the first to become a Mastersmith in the ABS in the state of Georgia. I now have a number of his knives from college days to present and am always looking for another. His name, Keith Kilby, my latest aquisition from him is a custom 30-30 Ruger number 1.