I like the 28.. But the 410 is my favorite....but not the favorite feelings about scores with the 410l I shot a round of trap with my K-80 with the 410 tubes. Actually, broke a 23. I shot quite a few with the 28 and broke some 25s. It outperforms its size. I have a few 28s... A couple sets of D grade 1100s a matched pair of 1100s in 28 and 410..The same in the much harder to find 870s matched pairs. also have a new Ithaca double custom gun made in 1930 in 28 ga. Very rare. Have shot 'em all and again they outperform their size. Back when you could shoot lead at waterfowl I used an old Winchester M-12 to shoot teal...but they are a closer shot duck in the marshes just remembered I also have one of the Browning made copies of the model 12. Not quite the same as an older Win as they have an interrupter in the trigger. The 28 can be downloaded to 5/8 ounce and up to an ounce