The Nosler 357 180s I got were sold at Scheels at a normal price of 13.99. marked down at some point to 6.55 I think They were from a "few" years ago of course. They were priced right I think. A local friend who passed loaded a LOT of ammo. Good loads too...metallic ammo. He bought much of his bullets from Nosler's sportsmans shop. Most all were 2nds, overruns and Leftovers. Never heard of any complaints about his ammo. I shot 2 rounds of his reloads..He hunted with a Remington 300 Ultra mag...Holy Toledo!