I get a yuck from folks who talk about how weak the .30 carbine is. Lots of folks on the wrong end of one in Europe and the Pacific would strongly disagree if they could still talk. ��. Yea, compared to an ‘06 or 308 it’s pretty weak (but then so is the “mighty” 5.56/.223 that so many rave about and that terrifies the unwashed in those awful black rifles��). A carbine is a darn good woods (or self defense) rifle for most of the country.