Has it been reported yet exactly what brand, caliber, etc. the gun used by the shooter in the assassination attempt, other than "AR type rifle"? Seems like, as we all know, that any black gun is reported as an AR type gun. I don't think it is some super-secret information that only the Secret Service Dept. needs to hide from John Q. Public, is it? I thought I read that someone stated it didn't sound like some powerful hunting rifle like a .223 caliber. That confused me a little!
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What kind of gun exactly?
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Sometimes the less said, the better. I’d say this is definitely one of those cases. I do understand your confusion though.
Alk8944
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Let's assume the media sources are correct. Photos on line do make it appear his rifle was an "AR Type", so what! The basics of the situation is that an idiot who wasn't a very good shot attempted to assassinate a political figure and failed. What difference does it make if he used an AR and what precise company made the gun?
What is the problem is that for years the "media" have been advertising extensively that if you want to kill something/someone that the gun you need to use is an "Assault Rifle type! So that is what is generally used, even if the actor needs to go out and buy one instead of use whatever he probably already owned.
It sounds like you believe make, model etc. of the specific rifle is important, well it isn't!
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE GUNS SERIAL NUMBER TOO???? Can you understand how silly this is?
What is the problem is that for years the "media" have been advertising extensively that if you want to kill something/someone that the gun you need to use is an "Assault Rifle type! So that is what is generally used, even if the actor needs to go out and buy one instead of use whatever he probably already owned.
It sounds like you believe make, model etc. of the specific rifle is important, well it isn't!
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE GUNS SERIAL NUMBER TOO???? Can you understand how silly this is?- Joined
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DPMS purchased by his father in 2013.
CAJUNLAWYER
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And there ya go........
Correct...And if alternate media sources were searched, this info was available the next day from what I remember.
It sounds like you believe make, model etc. of the specific rifle is important, well it isn't!
No more silly than wanting to know that Hinckley used an RG-10 .22 pistol that he bought in Fort Worth and Oswald used a 91/38 6.5 Italian Short rifle he bought mail order from Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago.
On gun boards, people generally ask gun type questions. I would have found it interesting if this had been $3000 1965 Colt SP1 versus a $400 DPMS....No reason really other than curiosity.
I wanna know what handgun the 72 YO guy picking huckleberries in Montana used a few days ago to dispatch an aggressive griz...
venomballistics
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the first problem is highlighted in the first four words of your post ... "It has been reported".....
a Browning high wall would be reported as a high power AR 15 by todays media.
so far, the most specific rumor we have on the forum is a DPMS of the platform, images look to be fairly pedestrian hardware.
This would be the closest we may have to an accurate description.
a Browning high wall would be reported as a high power AR 15 by todays media.
so far, the most specific rumor we have on the forum is a DPMS of the platform, images look to be fairly pedestrian hardware.
This would be the closest we may have to an accurate description.
I watched it...Great video...That .300 Win. Mag. was brutal from the sniper.
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Let's assume the media sources are correct. Photos on line do make it appear his rifle was an "AR Type", so what! The basics of the situation is that an idiot who wasn't a very good shot attempted to assassinate a political figure and failed. What difference does it make if he used an AR and what precise company made the gun?
What is the problem is that for years the "media" have been advertising extensively that if you want to kill something/someone that the gun you need to use is an "Assault Rifle type! So that is what is generally used, even if the actor needs to go out and buy one instead of use whatever he probably already owned.
It sounds like you believe make, model etc. of the specific rifle is important, well it isn't!
Yes, of course you are right! I was more interested in the caliber of what the kid used. Manufacturer is not important. NOR IS THE SERIAL NUMBER. Since I was only 4 years old in 1961 when you started gunsmithing, you have far more knowledge than me about firearms. I have two .22 caliber rifles that, in J. Q. Public’s eyes, look like AR Type rifles. They’re black and have accessory rails. My grandson is happy with them. 75 yards tops is just fine. My 5.56 can be a groundhog’s death sentence at a tad further with a decent scope.
I’m so sorry I insulted you and your vast gun knowledge with such a stupid question.
I think it was this:
I have one of those, it will get the job done but it is a single shot and in all the excitement of a charge getting that second shot loaded can be a bit of a challenge. A friend of mine had his grandfathers Highwall Winchester model 1885, it was in 40-65 and in beautiful condition with one exception. On the forearm was a perfect impression of teeth, top and bottom. I asked him "Which one of you kids teethed on this thing?" He said "Grandpa had a bear in his orchard that was tearing limbs down to get at apples. He went down and shot him with his Winchester, a little too low in the ribcage to put it down, it charged and he went to a nearby tree, put the rifle in his teeth and climbed to safety after which he put the bear down for good.
My Contender has a muzzle brake and will put 300gr. hollow points into a fairly tight group 3" or so at 50yds. With work and a good rest you could improve on that easy. Its loaded over what I can safely push rounds through my trapdoor.
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Hoping to not rattle any other cages, but I’ll ask anyway. Does anyone know if he was using an optic of any type? The various photos I’ve seen are blurred or to far away.
LVSteve
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I think it's been noted elsewhere on the board as a non-magnified red dot of some kind.
Herrera said he was using a forward facing, non magnified red dot sight on a Picatinny rail.
DWalt
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That is what has been reported but I have not seen a picture to confirm that.
Me neither because every picture I saw was blurred for the graphic nature and generally out of focus.
There are probably some uncensored pics from bystanders floating around on reddit or somewhere.
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That Herrera video is pretty good. Wish I had seen it sooner. Very good demonstration video. Think it said he, the shooter, used a red dot sight. That rifle the Secret Service used is one badd rifle! They said the gun alone, if I heard correctly, was $15,000?
I appreciate the info to that video. I hadn’t seen it before now.
I appreciate the info to that video. I hadn’t seen it before now.
