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Old 02-28-2024, 04:09 PM
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Ballots have been delivered for the 2024 NRA Board of Directors Election. If you received a ballot package in your March NRA magazine, you're a Voting Member.
I am one of four candidates for the Board that were nominated by petition of the members, not the establishment's Nominating Committee. The four of us are committed to reforming the NRA to get it back on track, end the lies and corruption, and make the NRA strong and effective once more.
The Four for Reform are Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, Dennis Fusaro, and me, Jeff Knox.
We're asking NRA members to mark your ballots for just the four of us and no one else, as all of the other candidates are either incumbents (who have allowed the corruption to flourish) or were selected by the establishment's Nominating Committee.
Each year the NRA sends out about 2.5 million ballots to eligible Voting Members, and each year, only about 5% to 7% are ever returned. That means 92% to 95% of ballots go to waste and are never voted. That's sad.
The NRA is in serious trouble. The official response from NRA President Charles Cotton to the verdicts in the recent New York trial (posted here on this forum) demonstrate the fact that the current "leadership" has learned nothing from the past 5 years of turmoil and collapse. They're now claiming that the guilty verdicts in the NY case support what they have contended "all along," that the NRA was the victim of unscrupulous "vendors and insiders" who took advantage of their positions to reward themselves at the NRA's expense.
While that's partially true, the sad reality is that "all along" was really just the past month, and ignores the fact that the current leadership spent the past 5 years shielding and lying for those "insiders," costing the Association (you and me) well over $100 million in legal fees alone, and resulting in the loss of almost $200 million per year in lost revenue and over 1.5 million members.
The trial will now move to a second phase in which the judge will hear arguments and make decisions regarding remedies to try and get the NRA back on the right path.
The judge could just chastise the current leadership and warn them to do better, or he could dissolve the Board, remove the officers and executives, dismiss the current election, and install a Special Master to take control of the NRA and oversee its reorganization.
He will most likely choose a course of action somewhere between those two extremes.
Whatever the judge decides, it is critical that we have dedicated NRA members in place to help guide that decision and ready to step in to help guide the Association back to a position of strength and effectiveness.
The Four for Reform know that our influence will be limited on a Board of 76 members. We recognize that we won't be able to turn things around by ourselves. But if we don't get elected, or at least do well enough to catch the judge's attention, then the same people who sat by and allowed the corruption and subsequent wasteful coverup to continue, will be the only ones in a position to represent the membership going forward.
That doesn't seem like a recipe for success.
A few of those current board members have recently started talking about serious reform. That's good. I hope they're being honest and are finally beginning to see the light. If they are sincere, I look forward to working with them going forward. But sadly, the only current Director who made public statements and voted against the regime was Buz Mills of Gunsite. All the rest either voted against reform efforts, or sat on their hands.
There are 34 candidates listed on your NRA ballot this year vying for 25 seats on the Board of Directors. Twenty five of the candidates are incumbents running for reelection. Five candidates are "new" names selected by the board's Nominating Committee, which is controlled by the failed regime. Only four, Journey, Marshall, Fusaro, and Knox, are outsiders nominated by petition of the members.
You can vote for up to 25 candidates, but you don't have to vote for all 25. Bullet voting for just the four of us increases the weight of your votes and increases the odds that the four of us will be elected. Due to his name recognition as the owner of Gunsite Academy, Buz Mills always gets enough votes to easily win a seat. He and Ronnie Barrett will be among the top vote-getters in this election, so he doesn't need our help or your vote to win a seat, though including a vote for Buz doesn't hurt us. What does hurt is if you vote for 20 or 25 candidates, even if you include the four of us. Those extra votes serve to bolster the votes of low-information NRA voters who just vote for the Nominating Committee candidates.
To give your votes the most weight, only vote for the four reform candidates. If you personally know any of the other candidates and are convinced that they've seen the light and won't continue to support the cabal that's been driving the Association down the drain, it's your choice to include them, but don't vote for people you don't know, and keep your selections to a minimum.
Again, the best way to ensure that true reform candidates get elected is to vote for only four -- Marshall, Journey, Fusaro, and Knox -- then mail the ballot in well before the April 28 deadline.
There's also a Byalw change question on the ballot. The object of the Bylaw amendments is to create a new officer position called the Chief Compliance Officer. The CCO will be responsible for ensuring that all laws, rules, regulations, and policies are always followed by all NRA personnel. This position shouldn't be needed, as those responsibilities are supposed to be taken care of by the Board's Audit Committee. Unfortunately the Audit Committee has long been just a rubber stamp for whatever the CEO and his minions have wanted to do. The longtime Chair of the Audit Committee is Charles Cotton. The Vice Chair and former Chair of the committee is David Coy. Both have failed spectacularly in their duties and obligations on the Audit Committee, and both have been rewarded for those failures by being elected to serve as President and Vice President of the Board. Are you beginning to see the problem?
That's why I am voting YES on the Bylaw amendment question.
Obviously, it is easy for people to suggest that this post is self-serving, as I am one of the candidates that I'm asking you to vote for.
All I can say in response to that is that I've been a Life Member of the NRA since I started buying my Life Membership on a term plan with my first paycheck out of Basic Training back in 1978. Service on the Board is a volunteer position. None of us are supposed to receive any compensation for serving as a Director. Too many of the current Directors have skirted that rule and been paid "speaking fees" for attending Friends of NRA banquets, "consulting fees" for "advising" the CEO, or holding paid positions within state associations that receive grants from the NRA to pay their salaries. I will not take any money from the NRA beyond reimbursement for actual travel and lodging costs incurred fulfilling my obligatory duties as a Director.
As a professional writer, I would love to have my articles appear in NRA publications, but I will not accept payment, or will donate any payments I do receive, right back to the NRA or the NRA Foundation, for any of my articles that appear in any NRA publications.
I'm not seeking any paid position within the NRA, and I have no desire to serve on the Board for any longer than I absolutely have to in order to help get the organization back on track. Hopefully that would be just one 3-year term.
I've already gone too long in this post so I'll close by saying that I will do my best to monitor this post and answer any questions any forum members post in response.
I'll also reiterate my primary call to action by asking all concerned NRA Voting Members to please vote for only the Four for Reform: Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, Denis Fusaro, and Jeff Knox -- and no one else, and to vote YES on the Bylaw question.
Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to your questions.
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:01 PM
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Old 02-28-2024, 05:52 PM
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I think a great many NRA members are currently in a wait and see mode. Will the NRA get back in the fight or just continue the poor business as usual that's been going on for years?
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I'm basically lazy, and thus I rarely give likes. But I did here. Regardless I voted for the "four" and my ballet is in the mail.

Personally, I don't think we can wait and see. We need to take charge and do what we can now. Time is of the essence.
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Bless you, Jeff Knox.

The Board is culpable in the absurd corruption of the organization. It was their legal and moral duty to constrain LaPierre.
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I was going to just toss the ballot but you can be sure I’ll send it in now with four votes marked.

Thanks Mr. Knox.
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I have followed your instructions to the letter.
Best of luck to you Mr. Knox
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Done and done.
Same here. was waiting for something like this before sending in my ballot......
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The Four for Reform are Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, Dennis Fusaro, and me, Jeff Knox.

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Me too

Not knowing anyone else on the ballot, I just voted for the above 4.
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I've been looking for this kind of information. I hope that you can turn the NRA into the juggernaut that it once was.
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Thanks for explaining this process.Ballot is going out today using your advice.
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Jeff, I literally had to go fish my ballot out of the trash; that’s how disgusted I am with the NRA.

You four have my vote; do us proud!
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So if only four are worth voting for, what EXACTLY is the problem with Rick Ector from Michigan?

I know him and must be completely blind because I'm not seeing what your claiming, in him, which is why I'm asking for specific details.

I'm doing so publicly to avoid anything shady as I've asked others to vote for him.
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So if only four are worth voting for, what EXACTLY is the problem with Rick Ector from Michigan?

I know him and must be completely blind because I'm not seeing what your claiming, in him, which is why I'm asking for specific details.

I'm doing so publicly to avoid anything shady as I've asked others to vote for him.
Read it again. Jeff did not say only four are worth voting for.
It appears to me that Rick Ector will easily be reelected. The point in voting for only the four PETITION nominees is to be sure they get elected. Your vote is strengthened that way.
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You can vote for up to 25 candidates, but you don't have to vote for all 25. Bullet voting for just the four of us increases the weight of your votes and increases the odds that the four of us will be elected. Due to his name recognition as the owner of Gunsite Academy, Buz Mills always gets enough votes to easily win a seat. He and Ronnie Barrett will be among the top vote-getters in this election, so he doesn't need our help or your vote to win a seat, though including a vote for Buz doesn't hurt us. What does hurt is if you vote for 20 or 25 candidates, even if you include the four of us. Those extra votes serve to bolster the votes of low-information NRA voters who just vote for the Nominating Committee candidates.
To give your votes the most weight, only vote for the four reform candidates. If you personally know any of the other candidates and are convinced that they've seen the light and won't continue to support the cabal that's been driving the Association down the drain, it's your choice to include them, but don't vote for people you don't know, and keep your selections to a minimum.
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Read it again. Jeff did not say only four are worth voting for.
It appears to me that Rick Ector will easily be reelected. The point in voting for only the four PETITION nominees is to be sure they get elected. Your vote is strengthened that way.
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I saw the line saying bullet voting for the four of us .......... Ir looked to me as saying only vote for the four of us.

Sorry, I misunderstood what he said.
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I like Rick a lot. My only issue with him is that he's been on the Board for a while now, and has not actively or publicly decried the stupidity that's been thriving among the "leaders" of the Board. Had he been vocal for change, he probably wouldn't have been renominated. By not being vocal for change, he lost my active support. There are a few people on the ballot that I hope win seats, but not at the expense of the four of us, as we're the only ones, along with Buz Mills, actively and publicly calling for serious reform.
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I like Rick a lot. My only issue with him is that he's been on the Board for a while now, and has not actively or publicly decried the stupidity that's been thriving among the "leaders" of the Board. Had he been vocal for change, he probably wouldn't have been renominated. By not being vocal for change, he lost my active support. There are a few people on the ballot that I hope win seats, but not at the expense of the four of us, as we're the only ones, along with Buz Mills, actively and publicly calling for serious reform.
Thank you very much, this is very good to know.
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Jeff, I was already going to vote for the 4 of you, My only question was about the new position. I am now going to vote for just the 4 of you and the new position. I also wanted to tell you I talked to your father several times at various events in Maryland. I have a great deal of respect for him and always voted for him in the NRA elections. I used to look forward to his columns in the Shotgun News.
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Thanks for the heads up ...
I wasn't sure who to vote for , now I know ...
I have always advocated for voting the "undesirable" persons out of office ... not quitting / disbanding the NRA ...
It's important to stay and fight ... with your vote !
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Just completed my vote and the 4 of you are on it.

I understand the playing the odds math part of it and how the typical person will vote randomly on many of the spots because they don't know any better.

Also the bio printed with the material is like any bio. What the person puts in is what is printed so you have to be careful there.

To the question above about knowing certain Board Members I would say if you know the person and know they are worthy of your vote then vote for who you wish.

BUT keep in mind something got the NRA to the point of where it is now and having served on a Board before (Not the NRA) those are the folks who have the responsibility to keep things in line. If that hasn't been happening then you can't blame anyone but the person who has the oversight and the member who keeps putting them back in that position.

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Jeff,

We all wish for reforms at the NRA. The problem is that the organization is structured in a way that votes don't matter. Any organization with a BoD that big means that it has little to no influence on meaningful decisions.
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We all wish for reforms at the NRA. The problem is that the organization is structured in a way that votes don't matter. Any organization with a BoD that big means that it has little to no influence on meaningful decisions.
With all the dirty laundry out there for everyone to see, I think that there will be a lot of momentum for change for the better.
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We all wish for reforms at the NRA. The problem is that the organization is structured in a way that votes don't matter. Any organization with a BoD that big means that it has little to no influence on meaningful decisions.
You're right, though your comment is a bit convoluted. With a 76-member Board of Directors, it's almost impossible for just a few to have a significant impact. We understand that going in. But a judge is about to decide how the NRA proceeds from here. No one knows what direction he's going to take. He could simply wag his finger at the Board and tell them to not do it again, or he could dissolve the Board altogether, appoint a Receiver to reorganize the Association, and basically start everything from scratch.
Right now, there's only one Director publicly speaking out against the crony cabal that protected and kept Wayne in power. We desperately need a few more. Since the verdict, other Directors are beginning to see the light and stray from the status quo. A solid victory for the four of us would send a loud message to all of them -- and to the judge -- that there are a lot of NRA members ready to fight for their Association.
Like I say, we don't know what's going to happen next, but we want to be in the best position to have a positive impact whenever whatever's going to happen is decided and implemented.
One of my goals in the reorganization is to see the Board reduced to 9 to 11 Directors. They should be 100% dedicated to protection of Second Amendment rights and the shooting sports, and they should be experienced business people who know how a half-billion dollar per year corporation should operate, not just guys who have been around a while and made the right friends.
At-large voting for 75 Directors + a 76th at the Members' Meeting, is insane. It needs to be changed dramatically, and right now, we know change is coming via the New York judge. Be a part of the change by electing people who are proactively working toward it for the benefit of the members.
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Right now I am inclined to vote AGAINST any incumbent and anybody recommended by the nominating committee, just on general principles.
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I asked Jeff to post this rather than me posting the article from his website with his permission. I felt it would carry more weight if he posted it.
Thanks, Jeff, for taking the time to do so. I really appreciate it!

Put me on record as fully supporting Jeff Knox, Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, and Dennis Fusaro and the new Bylaw.
PLEASE spread this message as far and wide as you can! Get this message out there. Let's get these four elected and rebuild the NRA!

Many of you have been perplexed by my policy of not allowing negative commentary or "bashing" of the NRA.
I had a good reason for that.
I knew Wayne's regime was hurting the NRA and membership was declining. However, the NRA was still the biggest dog we had in the fight against antigunners. I was not going to provide a platform to harm the NRA further and possibly decrease membership more. Even as flawed as it was under Wayne's regime, we had to keep it alive.
We are at a pivotal moment in history here, folks. Wayne is gone, and good riddance! We have a chance to elect four Directors that are focused on reform and rebuilding. We must get these four men elected!
PLEASE do as Jeff is asking, and vote for ONLY these four and vote yes for the Bylaw.

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I am one of four candidates for the Board that were nominated by petition of the members, not the establishment's Nominating Committee. The four of us are committed to reforming the NRA to get it back on track, end the lies and corruption, and make the NRA strong and effective once more.
The Four for Reform are Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, Dennis Fusaro, and me, Jeff Knox.
We're asking NRA members to mark your ballots for just the four of us and no one else, as all of the other candidates are either incumbents (who have allowed the corruption to flourish) or were selected by the establishment's Nominating Committee.
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You can vote for up to 25 candidates, but you don't have to vote for all 25. Bullet voting for just the four of us increases the weight of your votes and increases the odds that the four of us will be elected. Due to his name recognition as the owner of Gunsite Academy, Buz Mills always gets enough votes to easily win a seat. He and Ronnie Barrett will be among the top vote-getters in this election, so he doesn't need our help or your vote to win a seat,
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I'll also reiterate my primary call to action by asking all concerned NRA Voting Members to please vote for only the Four for Reform: Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, Denis Fusaro, and Jeff Knox -- and no one else, and to vote YES on the Bylaw question.
C'mon, people, NOW is the time to do something to save the NRA! Don't look back on this time and say "I wish I'd-a done that!"
If we can't get the NRA back in order, all may eventually be lost in this fight.
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OK I’ve got my ballot filled out with just the four.

To be honest I haven’t voted in NRA elections since I voted for “Chuck,” the first time. I admit that I don’t really read the Rifleman anymore. (Obviously I wouldn’t have even known there was a ballot in the recent one.) I’ve tried to tell them to save some money and don’t send me the magazine. NOPE.

Don’t get me wrong I’m still reading the Rifleman but they are from the ‘60’s - early ‘70’s. A friend of mine loaned me banker boxes full of them with no late fee upon return.

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I asked Jeff to post this rather than me posting the article from his website with his permission. I felt it would carry more weight if he posted it.
Thanks, Jeff, for taking the time to do so. I really appreciate it!

Put me on record as fully supporting Jeff Knox, Phil Journey, Rocky Marshall, and Dennis Fusaro and the new Bylaw.

Many of you have been perplexed by my policy of not allowing negative commentary or "bashing" of the NRA.
I had a good reason for that.
I knew Wayne's regime was hurting the NRA and membership was declining. However, the NRA was still the biggest dog we had in the fight against antigunners. I was not going to provide a platform to harm the NRA further and possibly decrease membership more. Even as flawed as it was under Wayne's regime, we had to keep it alive.
We are at a pivotal moment in history here, folks. Wayne is gone, and good riddance! We have a chance to elect four Directors that are focused on reform and rebuilding. We must get these four men elected!
PLEASE do as Jeff is asking, and vote for ONLY these four and vote yes for the Bylaw.

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C'mon, people, NOW is the time to do something to save the NRA! Don't look back on this time and say "I wish I'd-a done that!"
If we can't get the NRA back in order, all may eventually be lost in this fight.
Take a look at Wikipedia, another biased and unfounded opinions of people that have never owned firearms. Makes the NRA look like we don't care. Quite the opposite. Do you really think that criminals care about back ground checks or buy firearms legally?
Arrogant and elitist go to the "feel good" argument. Always complain and blame with no realistic solutions.
Time to tune up the old regime and make them pay for all the out of control spending of OUR money...
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Good. My ballot went in the mail yesterday.
I also called a friend who had asked me for suggestions on who to vote for.

Hope this works out well for the 4 of you, and our NRA
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Blast it! I've been waiting for information regarding "something's rotten in the NRA", and information on how (if possible) to ghange it! But, somehow the ballot got in the shredding pile, and is gone! I remember years ago when some members...the only name I remember was John Wooters...iirc... and it seemed to make a difference. Now, unfortunately, I can only sit back and watch the war!
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Blast it! I've been waiting for information regarding "something's rotten in the NRA", and information on how (if possible) to ghange it! But, somehow the ballot got in the shredding pile, and is gone! I remember years ago when some members...the only name I remember was John Wooters...iirc... and it seemed to make a difference. Now, unfortunately, I can only sit back and watch the war!
If you are a Voting Member and didn't receive a ballot, or received one and lost or damaged it, you can call the NRA Secretary's Office and request a replacement.

John Wooters was one of the leaders, along with Neal Knox, of the Cincinnati Revolt in '77. We made significant changes then, but lost most of those reforms over the years. Being able to nominate Director candidates by petition of the members is one of the last of the Cincinnati reforms remaining, but a few years ago the Board pushed the membership to to vote in some Bylaws changes that make that much more difficult. Originally, a candidate had to gather signatures from 250 NRA Voting Members in order to get on the ballot. The new rules require qualified signatures equal to 0.5% of the number of votes cast in the previous year's election. That was about 400 for this year, and the 4 of us were barely able to qualify. It's very difficult to find that many Voting Members of NRA willing to sign a petition.
If we get a strong voter turnout this year, as we're hoping, the signature requirement could be 600 to 700 or more.
Signatures required to Recall an Officer or Director, was changed to be virtually impossible. It is now 5% of the previous election, meaning that it would require 4,000 or 6,000 or 7,000 signatures for a recall. They were shielding themselves and the membership went along with it.
Just something else that seriously needs fixing.
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Where were the members of the Board speaking out about the corruption, fiduciary crimes, LaPierre's megalomania, and the outrageous salaries paid to insiders and outsiders for the past 30 years?

Where were the members of the Board not playing along with the corruption speaking out?

Why did members, even after knowing about the continual corruption, continue to send in money?

It's like going to the refrigerator, pulling out a jug of milk, discovering it's spoiled, then putting it back into the refrigerator and expecting it to get better in a couple of weeks.

No thanks.
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It's like going to the refrigerator, pulling out a jug of milk, discovering it's spoiled, then putting it back into the refrigerator and expecting it to get better in a couple of weeks.

No thanks.
So, what will you do?
Go to the refrigerator, pull out a jug of milk, discover it's spoiled, throw it away, and expect a new jug of milk to magically appear?
Do something.
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So, what will you do?
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Do something.
I will do something. I'll not play the "Let's give them money" to pretend to revive a corpse and I'll continue my support of GOA and the 2nd Amendment Foundation.

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I will do something. I'll not play the "Let's give them money" to pretend to revive a corpse and I'll continue my support of GOA and the 2nd Amendment Foundation.
GOA and SAF together raise and spend a few million dollars a year, perhaps as much as $20 million total.

In 2017, the NRA raised and spent almost $400 million!

Yes GOA and SAF are important and useful -- sometimes very useful -- but they can't begin to do what the NRA can do when it's working right. Even today, the NRA has annual revenue near $200 million.

I won't get into the milk analogy, and if you're not a Voting Member of NRA, then I'm not really talking to you, but talking to the NRA members who want their rights protected by the strongest, most effective organization possible. If you want it to be better, you have to take action to help make it better. VOTE!
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Do something.
Sounds like he did do something.
He stopped drinking milk.
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Same here. I need to see something more than just talk, at this point. But, I'll keep an open mind going forward.
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Mr Knox,
Thank you Sir for this post, Have been a NRA member since 1973 and an endowment member for 20 years. Have to be honest but have not voted in an election for many years due to the corrupt ineffectiveness of the NRA dealing with 2nd Amendment Rights, seemed few if any “ had what it takes” to return the NRA to its Traditional Role. Ballot is marked for the 4 of you and goes in the mail today.
Thank you again.
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I'm no longer a member and won't be again until all the house cleaning is complete. The Board was just as culpable as WLP in his corruption, and that included spending millions of our money defending WLP. Outside of ejecting WLP with a golden parachute, I've seen nothing that shows any actual change has occurred. I'll keep watching, but in the meantime, my donations go to groups like GOA, SAF, and FPC who actually get things done to protect the 2A.
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The ultimate crime and real betrayal of the membership in all this was not 3000 dollar suits, or private jets to the Bahamas. The loss of reputation and consequently, effectiveness advocating for the 2nd Amendment has resulted in harm that may never be overcome. Our most virulent enemies have gotten more than could they have ever imagined or even hoped.
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Can someone explain to me just why the NRA needs 75 people on its BoD? That seems like a huge waste of time and effort to me in order to get everybody to agree on anything.
Or is it just easier to hide that bad apple in a bigger barrel?
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