I was in uniform back in the late 70's and we wore no body armor back then in my agency becaues we didn't have any. My Sam Brown belt had a S&W M10HB in a Don Hume Border Patrol holster. Besides that, there was a dounle dump pouch and a flashlight ring and a handcuff case. That was about it I believe. I don't see how guys and gals can run or fight with all that stuff hanging on them now. I would fear that if I fell down I couldn't get up. The vest is a very good thing though.