One more thing, I have used a lot of the handloads for 7X57, 270 Win and 30-06 that Jack had talked about(working up to the top loads suggested by Jack). I didn't chrono them but got simular accuracy to what he talked about. I still use his top loads with a 130 gr bullet and 4831 in my .270 and never had a problem in my rifle. Some have said that this is over what should be used in a .270 but in my rifle I have had no signs of it being too hot. His 7X57 handloads with 160 gr bullets were right on also.

Kirmdog