I often wear Dockers, the original relaxed pleated fit, for I usually carry in left front pocket. I try to limit my junk or extras. I carry my cell on belt holder, keys in right front pocket, wallet in right rear. Left rear is often empty. I do have some Columbia items and they are good, shoes are great too. I like the 5.11 pants, but they do kinda say "cop" to some. I think it is 5.11 line that makes a neat T-shirt that has a pocket sewed under each armpit area. I use the pocket to carry light for I am a bit rounded in the middle, so I don't want to spend the day pulling up my pants. I carry an airweight smith J frame usually. I would suggest buying something loose enough so things don't show.