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10-13-2009, 11:15 AM
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Assembly Bill 962 passed in Cali.
The following was posted over at Rimfire Central forum. More food for thought. This will only compound the already shortage problem with ammo. Every Cali gun owner will be buying ammo like there is no tomorrow, if they can find it. Buy now cause the price is only going to go higher. Like a slow cancer, the ripple effect will not be good. Some ammo vendors may just get out of the business. Others will pass on the administrative fee. Welcome to the new world order. Hopefully it won't be coming to your state soon. Seems harmless enough right. Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Ammunition Bill Signed Into Law
Written for the web byPosted By: Trevor Tamsen, Multimedia Producer
SACRAMENTO, CA - Before the midnight deadline Gov. Schwarzenegger acted on 685 bills that were on his desk. He signed 456 and vetoed 229.
One of the bills that he signed was Assembly Bill 962. It requires handgun ammunition to be kept behind the counter where customers cannot access it without assistance. It also requires gun shop owners to thumbprint people who buy handgun ammunition, as well as record their identification and provide that information to police.
Schwarzenegger released a statement explaining why he signed this bill.
"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.
This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-
face transfer of ammunition sales.
Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.
Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.
Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful
local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.
As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.
Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."
Sorry guys, I noticed that this was already posted in the 2nd Amendment Forum. Please feel free to remove this post Mr. Mod. . My bad.
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10-13-2009, 03:52 PM
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What do you think, maybe his steroids are kicking in? Good luck out there. So is it a crime to buy out of state yet?
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10-13-2009, 04:24 PM
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I hate that RINO.
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10-13-2009, 08:55 PM
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...and this helps the Condors how..?
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10-13-2009, 09:07 PM
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What do you think, maybe his steroids are kicking in? Good luck out there. So is it a crime to buy out of state yet?
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Not yet. Plus there are some serious legal challenges coming.
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10-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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That was a given we all remember how the Terminator killed the old guy from Gremlins with the auto-5 in that gun store. -dam movie guys-
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10-13-2009, 10:09 PM
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Ammo prices will increase dramatically for a while, supplies will dry up and small shops like the one I frequent will go t##ts up (sorry I'm chafed) or move to another state. AND the bg's will still find ammo, by any means they can. So we lose more small businesses. This helps the economy how? I'm moving.
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10-13-2009, 11:02 PM
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I just bought another 13 lbs of powder today. Ahnold is as good a salesman as BHO
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Just another hoop and expense for you honest Californians and ammo dealers. Too bad....
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10-20-2009, 03:09 PM
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It takes effect in 2011. Sacramento has had the law for quite awhile now. The police do check all purchases for felons, subjects guilty of domestic violence and other prohibitive crimes and on the strength of the purchase as it is illegal for these people to have a gun obtain a search warrant for guns. Many stolen guns have been recovered and arrests made Felons do go to prison for it. I will have my ammo dropshipped at my Bro in Laws in Reno as I will not pay retail for ammo.
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I guess the lines to buy ammo at gun shows here in Arizona are going to get longer. Of course, no prohibited possessor would EVER consider transporting across state lines. By the way, how can third strikers be purchasing if they are in prison?
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10-20-2009, 05:47 PM
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I'm a Californian who buys his range ammo in bulk from a reloading service in Pennsylvania (Mastercast -- highly recommended). I have read AB962, and it is not as bad as I thought it would be. It allows the shipment of bulk ammunition to a licensed ammo seller (think FFA), from whom I would take delivery for a nominal service charge. My range/gunstore manager confirmed this. I can live with AB962! Gracious sakes alive, I have to show picture ID every time I go there anyway. And get fingerprinted almost on an annual basis.
I'm not anal about my vital statistics. For most of my life I have carried an ID card, the most recent version of which carries almost everything about me you can think of. I must show my ID card to those who demand to see it. They recently have been examining it more carefully than they used to do, but they hand it back to me, salute me and wish me a good day as they wave me through the gate. I like it.
Cordially, Jack
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