I went to Cabelas in Dundee, Michigan on Tuesday, my god, there were tons of 9mm, in this picture, the top shelf is 45 Auto, the middle and bottom shelf is 9mm, (PMC, Fiocchi, PMC, Winchester, Herters brass). Even though the price is higher than early December (Herters is the cheapest at $14.00 per box).

I went to local Walmart this morning at 10:30AM, the lady said there was nobody waiting for the ammo at 7AM, let me repeat, nobody. and there are still 20-25 boxes of Federal champion left, the 100 round value box is about $22.50. I only grabbed one box, so more people can enjoy the fest!

I would suggest we buy less ammo (not buying at all if you can) so our brothers and sisters (who are under oppresion in NY, CT, CO, CA etc) can buy more, before the stupid rules take effect (where you need background check for buying ammo each time, plus limit on how many you can buy). Everybody in NYS should buy as many as possible to sabotage the henious oppresion imposed on you by thug Cuomo!!!

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Back to normal? Not around here. I handload so don't buy factory ammo, but it's still pretty scarce, and handloading stuff esp powder is not to be had.
BTW "federal champion" is 22LR? I'm not familiar with this particular round but $22.50/100 doesn't sound back to normal to me. You should be able to get a brick of 22 for that much.

I'm afraid that for too many people "back to normal" means "back to business as usual". And they will buy it only when They go out rather than keeping a stash.

Of course when we go through another shortage after the 2016 elections (when the Dems three-peat), the same folks will caught without.

Not even close......
I just arrived home from a long drive from NJ to Florida and back. I stopped at 7 Walmarts,2 ranges that sell ammo,2 Bass pro shops,and 3 gun shops all in a period of 8 days.
I was not able to purchase 1 box of either 9mm,.38..357 or .45 ammo and came home empty handed.
So your thesis seem to be rather flawed if not overly optimistic.

Perhaps "on the way to returning to normal" would be more accurate. I also was amazed by the amount of available 9mm, 40, 5.56 and other ammo that was @ Cabela's when I was there a couple days ago. However there wasn't any 380 acp, or a couple other calibers. Finding ammo seems to be hit or miss. While I would say it's improving, I'd also say there is quite a ways to go before I'd use "normal" to describe ammo availability.

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Not even close around here,9MM and .22LR are still better than gold.

In spite of what I said, we still need to keep alert, because politicians can strike at any time, just like criminals who will strike at innocent people. No one should let his guard down.

Whenever I see something on the shelf, I will make sure I don't buy off everything, especiall when there are only 2-3 boxes left, please do the same to other people so they can also have ammo to protect them!!!!! BTW, please boycott CTD!!

Why call for a boycott?

Sorry to say that things are still pretty bad around here. Walmart has zero, unless you hit the right day before 7:30am. Some LGS will only sell you one box per week.....That's one, not one of each caliber. I do know one about an hours drive which will sell if in stock 2 boxes or each caliber you want. Prices are a bit higher than pre- Connnecticut, but not as bad as what's selling on the internet. Bricks of .22LR are but a memory. Please remember in this state you need a LTC to buy ammo, so i can't bring the wife along to buy with me.

When I was back home in IL last month the Wal-Mart in town was getting in HUGE shipments of .38 spl, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and even 9mm with smaller quantities of .380, .44 magnum, 5.56/.223, 7.62x39mm, pretty much what one would consider the big sellers. Had lots of 12 and 20 gauge to. My Dad reported this Wal-Mart being very dry but throughout my stay I could tell every time I went to the ammo cabinet it was starting to fill up.

Near the end they received a colossal shipment of several PALLETS of .40 S&W and .45 ACP which took up about a 30 foot section of the middle aisle in front of sporting goods. Never seen anything like it. These were Winchester white box value packs. They also had at least a hundred boxes of Federal 9mm, 100 round champion value packs being sold for about $22 a pop!!!

Me and my pop had an absolute field day, every day, for most of a week. The supply also didn't seem to be moving too fast, I think the market in MY AREA is probably saturated. I considered that a good sign of better days ahead.

I was in the newest Walmrt the other day and the guy stocking the shelves told me that every morning the same bunch are still lined up to buy ammo at 7:30.He also told me the other stores were stocking at random times to give everyone a chance to buy ammo.
While I was there, two security guys took down a thief in the parking lot,several of us old guys gathered around til the Leos showed up.
If life lacks drama,head to Walmart.

You are fortunate.

My Walmart in Fairfax, VA has had ZERO on-shelf Handgun Ammo since January.

I was there last night. Not one bullet for handguns. Cabinet empty except for a few calibers of Rifle.

Personally, I think there's something fishy going on.

I agree. Price has a ways to go, but availability is nearing normality. I'm even starting to see a little bit of recovery in reloading materials, such as powder primers and bullits.

Hell, I even saw a jug of Unique available at Powder Factory. I haven't seen Unique available for months.

Bullseye and W231 still seem to be a big problem though.

Here's to those jerks that bought everything up to sell online at inflated prices losing their asses over the next few months

The folks who bought ammo and sold it on line will not lose any money. Worst case they only get what they have in it. Reallocation allows people in all these places where it isn't available to get some. If the price is too high don't pay it. No one's forcing anyone to do anything.

As far as the early birds "not giving anyone else a chance to buy" there is one sure fire cure - get up early and join them. Or sit around waiting for ammo to come knocking on your door. It could happen!

I have no desire to waste time in line. I buy it when I chance upon it in a store or online as long as the price is right.

More available around here but you still can't count on walking into LGS and find what you want and certainly not in quantities over a box or two. The exception is 22 lr. I've got a small stash (about 1700 rounds) but it cost me dearly.

This morning I took my wife to breakfast and then sent her on her way out of town for the weekend. I stopped at 2 Walmarts between 6:30 and 7AM and got 9 and 45 in 100 round boxes.

This afternoon around 2PM I went out to buy goodies for tonight's poker fun and stopped at 2 different Walmarts. I got 100 round boxes of 40 and 45. One gentleman I've gotten to know at my "favorite" Walmart told me they had 22LR up until about noon.

Cabelas was stocked to the gills but the prices were slightly higher, I passed.

BTW, looks like 100 round Federal 9mm has increased in price at WMT to $22.47 from $21.37 of last week

It's out there people.

Ammo may be available where you live but it sure isn't in Kansas. Specifically 9MM

I live in Kansas.....went to the local Cabela's last weekend....bought 500 rounds of winchester white box .45....first time I've seen any for months....still no .22....

Semper Fi!

No way it's back to normal! Shelves are practically empty & when in stock prices are still ridiculous!

I am seeing ammo become more readily stocked in all my LGS and Wallychina. If fact most of them are fully stocked, but me and other smart people are not buying the **** because price's are still stupid high. 9mm for 14.00-15 a box, 20.00 a box for 38 special, 22.00 a box for 45acp, 40.00 a box for 22lr 525 bulk they can go pound sand. When 38 special is 14-15 a box, 45acp 17-18 a box and 9mm is 10-11 a box, and 55 bulk 22lr is 15.00 a box, then I will be buying again. If they don't come back to those price's, I will reload.

Eric

....so with all things being equal, the OP is pretty much talking out of his ***....
Keep strong Gentlemen and a good evening.

Back to normal!!!! Not here. What ammo can be found is awful pricy. The only gunstore within 50 miles that has primers want $10.00 a hundred for them. BTW, the nearest Cabelas is 300 miles from where I live.

Not true at all and not a kind retort either.

Ammunition availability is obviously localized. Folks who prefer to sit in their armchairs and shop on-line are going to be SOL for awhile, IMO.

Ditto folks who shop the same stores they always did and never venture outside of their comfort zone.

Folks who only shoot one caliber, most notably 22 LR, will feel the pinch more than others.

Folks who would rather eat their own cylinders rather than paying the prices offered by the secondary market - ditto.

But ammunition is out there and in places, available in abundance.

And I will shout this until the electrons quit firing - buy enough of a stash to last for several years. Get a handle on how much you shoot in a given time period and plan ahead. Ammunition does not expire and if you're like a lot of us, you can find a place in the basement, garage, or a closet and put away several thousands, if not 10's of thousands, or rounds.

If you shoot 50 rounds of 9mm a month, multiply that by 12 months, then again by what - 5 years? If you can afford to buy 3000 rounds, why not?

If you're waiting for 2010 prices, forget it! Place your firearms in the Classifieds and use the proceeds to find another hobby.

If you can find ammunition for pre-panic plus 20%, you're not too far off the mark and you better grab it.

'Cause the Dems ain't finished by a long shot. Don't get caught "without" again!

YMMV.

I think that almost back to normal is a poor choice of words in most areas. I would say getting better. I have noticed that at walmart its spotty sometimes that have stuff there and sometimes they don't. Just seems to be a luck thing. Last week they had some 40 S&W available, this week i saw some 44 Auto. I have actually noticed that in my area Dick's Sporting Goods has had the best selection at somewhat reasonable prices. But in both those stores 9mm and 22lr are almost unheard of. The only 9mm i have seen is Defense rounds, and no 22lr in the box stores, but im also not camping out in line just going when im in the area. Some of the LGS have ammo but its still high. They have had a better selection but $50 for a box of 22lr is just not something im willing to purchase at this time.

The next panic is probably going to happen in 2014 with the next election. If the ammo industry doesn't recover by then it may never fully recover.

There should be a life lesson here. We've allowed our society, in EVERY facet, to be so controlled by Washington that the tides rise and fall on their every action. For all of you with children and grandchildren, perhaps it's time to explain this "little noticed" erosion of States rights, peoples rights, and basic freedoms so that maybe THEY can get the word out within their peer group. It's no longer a vast "gun wing" conspiracy! Remember, these kids never saw the building of the space program, never planned a day to be home for a phone call, never REALLY knew the pleasure of Dads/Moms/Aunts/Uncles sitting around telling WWII stories, never knew a life without instant communication, never carried a dime in the sole of their shoe, never walked up the street with a basket from the garden to the family with less, never knew that stores weren't open on the weekends, ... OK, I think you get it! It's more important now than ever that THIS talk is more important than THAT talk A large and ever growing Federal government is not in anyone's best interest and was NEVER in the master plan! I told my college age niece (SIL/BIL kid) that my mom was born to a world using horse and buggy, watched man walk on the moon for her 50th birthday, and passed in a world were she screened scam calls with an answering machine/caller ID and got the "you're making that up" look!

Not in the Phoenix valley.....

I haven't shot any since March. Wait, not true, I shot a rattler in the head with one .22 from my Ruger SA.

I have reached my personal "do not get any lower than this" ammo count. Sigh....

I broke down and bought 1000 rounds of CCI mini mag, at a high price, because I'm going crazy and I need to get out and shoot.

From the posts it seems like the ammo supply chain is slowly working its way east to west.

Back to normal? Are you freeze dried or doin hard time?

Pete in CA

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Being that I live in Ohio the answer is: "Yes"!

But we got ammo...

Back to normal? You're kidding right? Ammo scarce,prices doubled or worse, powder,primers and cases hard to find and this is somehow back to normal, not here. Is availability of ammo better now than several months ago? In my area yes but prices are outrageous. August is just around the corner and we are still in this crises.

My last USPSA match was in January and I don't know when I'll shoot another. I let my membership expire and doubt I'll ever go back. The ability to replace the ammo shot in a match and practice makes it just too costly to participate in.

Western and Central PA remains a vast wasteland of empty shelf space. No powder, no small pistol or rifle primers, no jacketed handgun bullets, no common weight .30 cal rifle bullets and no bags of shot. 5.56 NATO/.223 and 7.62X51 NATO are now quite plentiful and at fair prices. No .22 LR or MAG except $8 to $15 per 50 round target ammo. 9MM and 45 ACP are back, but 9MM costs $20-$30 per 50 with 45 ACP at $30 to $50 per 50!!

The real surprise; no .30-30, .30-06, .243 or .7MM Mag ammo. Many other hunting calibers are to be found, but not the PA big four.

Glad I really don't NEED anything right now!

FYI- CO may have become one of "those" states, but fortunately we are NOT facing any impending ammo restrictions. However, the cases are still bare at most mass retailers.

You're preaching to the choir Sir......and while I dare not speak for the rest of us,I for one have explored numerous avenues to keep my modest cache replenished,employing both the internet with it's many search engines and legwork as my very first post attested to.....
Now to my mind, if I can't find even one box of ammo in 4 separate calibers in 5 gun friendly states?...... forgive me but someone is indeed talking out of their ***

Not back to normal here but certainly better than it was, lets say, three months ago. Wal'mart is getting in .22lr brick ammo, the 525 Remington golden bullet for 21.96/brick but you have to be the early bird to get some. Another Wal'mart about 15 miles down the road is getting the 550 Federal .22lr brick for the same price. Haven't stood in line yet during this "bullet recession" but will do so before I pay scalper prices on GB.

I've noticed bulk 22lr coming in a bit more, but only a case at a time, and is gone fast. People scarf up the bulk packs immediately, but the 100ct sleeves sit longer, and more are available. 9mm and 22lr go the quickest. It almost seems "normal" for there to be a few in line for 22lr bulk when it comes in.

OK well I'll start by saying that I do live in NY..... with that new law for background check every time you buy ammo, I douot we will see a easing till the point that part of the law becomes active... we just don't know what the cost will be, or what the "red flag" amount will be.... that being said I am starting to see ammo show up in the shops around here. Still almost zero .22. I check the Walmart app and haven't eaven seen any show up in months... but the shops are getting other cals in. I've been able to pick up some small pistol primers, and some powders are trickling in to the shops... so I guess things are easing a little. 22 is tough.... we have no idea on what the cost will be next year so if your smart you need to stock up. If you can find any

A 5 year supply for me based on last years usage means 1,000,000 rounds which is an amount I don't have space or the cash for considering the price of ammo these days. At nearly 40 cents a round for 9mm, 45acp pushing 60 cents a round for WWB of all things and 357,40cal and 38 special nearly impossible to find at any price, its getting to the point where one must decide to continue in the hobby or find another hobby.

I miss those days when all I had to do was place an order online and it would be at my door by the case a few days later. Instead I have to search every outlet,stand in line for hours just to get a box or two of ammo if there was any. No cases just a box. Granted there were a few benefits from being in line and one was the purchase of a 4 inch 586 in 98% condition and a tip that led to a 10/22 takedown purchase. That and some new contacts helped with the time spent waiting in hope of ammo.

The worry about replacing any ammo I shoot and its cost is ruining the hobby for me. Probably why I have shot less than 500 rounds in total this year vs the 20,000 I shot last year.

I have to ask: 20K rounds per year? Why don't you reload?

And I am totally jealous, by the way.

I was in El Paso a week ago and decided, on a whim, to visit the Wally World at Mesa Street and I-10. The sporting goods section was totally out of .22s of any ilk. They did have two 100-packs of Remington .357 125 grain jacketed hollow points; I picked up one of these. The girl at the sporting goods counter told me that people stand in line every morning to see if any .22s have come in. Same thing in the Phoenix area, so if things are improving, the "trend" has not hit the Southwest yet.

John

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I was a pleasure to walk by higher priced ammo at Wally's and Dunham"s due to good availability of bulk Remington at a LGS... .45, .40, .223 are readily available. .22LR is still in low supply but prices are dropping steadily as boxes are Remaining the shelves. Best thing to do is NOT buy high priced ammo... and support suppliers who are trying to normalize.

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That's because the re-sellers dont want to fool with 100 round boxes of 22, there is no money in that. That's one of the reasons I believe 10000% that the "ammo problem" is caused by gougers. Locally at Dicks and WalMart a while back they had some 100 round boxes of remington and federal lightning that sat on the shelf for almost a week. The CCI gets nabbed up, but the 100 and 50 round boxes of other stuff dont sell. The people who "really want to shoot" will buy what they can get. That's why when I see it on the shelf after say, 2pm, I know that the shooters must either not know about it or the mythical 22 shooter who buys 1500 rounds (the 3 box limit) at a time really dont exist.

Amazingly I was able to get some 9mm 100 round boxes at WalMart this morning, I was the only one there when they started selling at 7am, so I guess the gougers were slacking or are broke, or there was a better score somewhere else.

Its not almost back to normal in my area. 20% at best. Very little 9, a touch of 40, only some .22 shorts, very little 45......it is heading in thee right direction but its slow.

Not 'normal', but my local Academy has pistol ammo in .40, .357, .38 Special, .45 LC. But only the SD/expensive varieties of 9mm. Oh, and still no 45ACP or .22, but they said they get it every week - though there's some guy who camps out every day it comes in, they said he gets there at 4:30am so he's first in line (three days a week when they stock) and buys all the .22 because he thinks the gubment is going to outlaw .22. They said he must have a warehouse full by now.

Edit: Academy's prices are about 10%-20% higher than 'pre-chaos'.

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Sorry but Academy limits each person to 1 of a caliber. Given you say they recognize this guy, the most he gets is ONE of the .22

These stories are like big foot!

My math might be off, but 1,000,000 rounds for 5 years would be 200,000 rounds a year. That's a lot of shooting. I believe you meant to post 100,000 rounds for 5 years for 20,000 per year.

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