I just love my G-38....it brings me such luck....

45 GAP works great to reload and shoot in my 625-8. I shoot ACP, Super, Autorim and GAP. The benefit to GAP is that brass is cheap, and when you cant find large pistol primers you can ususlly find small primers. Just gives you options. Since GAP uses small prim and ACP uses large, I never run out of ammo

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There are about a dozen handgun calibers that I would buy before I even thought about buying a GAP. I'll read up on it and see if I can find some positives.

Update:

positive - Our SC state police use the .45 GAP

negative - One of the reasons for its existence is that its thicker walls aren't as prone to blow out in improperly designed feed ramps openings. (It's not the guns' fault. I needs a stronger cartridge.)

Glock wanted a self-named cartridge, just like .40 S&W and .357 SIG.

In addition, the .45 GAP is a silly answer to the problem that has been expressed about the 10mm frame size Glock, which is that it is too big, too fat and has no ergonomics.

So, instead of building an ergonomic .45 ACP duty pistol, for which consumers have been begging for over 20 years now, we get the GAP in a G22 frame with a G20 slide attached.

What they should have built instead is a duty size version of the G36 - taller to hold 8, 9 or 10 rounds in a single stack mag with a longer slide and barrel.

By the way, there are very few people who can really grip the G20/21 properly, with the forearm straight in line behind the grip. Fortunately for Glock, most of the "ninja" crowd usually boast (while beating their chests) that the G20/21 platform is comfortable for fear that if they tell the truth someone will pre-judge their other perceived "inadequacies."

I for one cannot properly grip a G20/21, and I am not ashamed to admit it. The reason is not because I am not a man. The reason is because the pistol is poorly designed with ****** ergonomics.

The boys over at Glock are kidding themselves if they think the SF (short frame reach version) really solves the problem, because it does not. It is "not enough."

What we didn't need was the GAP. What we did need was a comfortable Glock in .45 ACP, even if it was simply an 8, 9 or 10 round capacity pistol, something that must give the designers over at Glock a great deal of heartburn.

As John Browning apparently said when he was shown the 37mm Baldwin cannon, "Where do you put the cheese?"

A fair argument could be made the HS Produkt/Springfield Armory XD .45 beat everyone else to the punch in this pony show, if you just have to have a plastic .45 Auto that holds more than 7+1 rounds (or 8+1) - including the S&W M&P45. It may be a painfully ugly pistol, but they all are. The Glock is so ugly it benefits from "sympathy purchases."

No pics or links , but it is listed in Barnes Cartridges of the World , which is how I learned of it.

I recall reading an article about a guy who picked up a .45 auto pistol made in Mexico (Obregon?), but it wouldn't chamber USGI .45 ACP ammo. A gunsmith measured the chamber depth and found it was 1mm short.