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09-03-2013, 02:21 PM
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Cabela's 9MM ammo
I purchased some 9MM ammo at the Cabela's store in Prairie du Chien , Wisconsin Labor Day. Cabelas has reserected the old Herters name for their line of ammo and all I have seen in the past was made in Russia. I bought 2 boxes of 9MM 115 grain nylon coated bullets and was suprised to see on one cornor of the box MADE BY BLAZER and the other corner MADE IN USA. The price was $13.99 /50 and there was pleanty in stock.
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09-03-2013, 03:37 PM
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I bought some from Cabelas last year. It is made for them by Blazer, CCI.
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09-03-2013, 03:58 PM
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I kinda wish nyclads would become more mainstream as a cheaper alternative to jacketed bullets. It would be nice if they were available to reloaders as well, I'd use them as I love coated lead such as Bayous.
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09-03-2013, 05:04 PM
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I have some Federal champion, I like them, but US made stuff are hard to come by, so most (90%) of my 9mm are from Magyarország, 남한, Brasil, Schweiz, Italia, Срб********ја, Росс****************, čeština, Suomi, Sverige (.223), 中国. In my opinion, the stuff from Schweiz, Suomi & Sverige are the best
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09-03-2013, 09:02 PM
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I just saw some ammo from Russia called TulAmmo. 115gr., steel (grey) cased, and Berdan primer. $10.67/50 9mm, $14.47/50 .40cal(180gr)
Anyone familiar with it? I was ready to buy some until I saw it was made in Russia. Seems like I read someplace to stay away from Russian ammo.
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09-03-2013, 11:20 PM
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Look at my picture on the right below the red box, it is imported from Росс****************, heard these ammo can be a little hard on your guns, but they are NOT corrosive!
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09-03-2013, 11:53 PM
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One issue with the Tulammo is the steel case, a lot of indoor ranges won't allow you to shoot with it because it can interfere with them using a magnet to check for steel jacketed bullets. Yeah, some of the Russian ammo used copper plated steel jackets and they can be hard on backstops and also create sparks that could potentially cause a fire in one of the ground rubber bullet traps.
As for the Blazer made ammo, it's well made but those of us who reload won't touch it with a 10 foot pole because you can't reload those aluminum cases. BTW, using plated bullets I can currently reload for my 45 ACP at a cost of 19.2 cents per round or 9.60 for a box of 50. With the lighter bullets and powder load in 9mm I could probably reload that for about 7.50 for a box of 50.
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09-04-2013, 10:13 PM
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Berdan primers are corrosive, so clean well after.
Personally I think that TULA and WOLF and Brown bear are total junk though.
( Wolf BRASS and Wolf 22 is great though!)
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09-04-2013, 10:26 PM
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I thought I read somewhere that Wolf 22 is actually made in Germany.
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09-04-2013, 11:01 PM
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A lot of Berdan is corrosive b/c the surplus corrosive ammo used Berdan, but the commercially produced stuff isn't necessarily corrosive. For example all currently made Wolf ammo, Berdan and boxer primed, even the steel stuff, is non-corrosive. Tula handgun is non-corrosive currently, I think rifle ammo varies by type. The new Bear is non-corrosive as well I believe.
The "corrosive" label is a marketing kiss of death in the US market, they're all moving away from it b/c it just won't sell.
Re Russian ammo generally, some think Tula and Bear burn dirtier so you have to clean more b/c of that. I don't find Wolf to be any dirtier than others, IMO it's the best of the foreign ammo. It's a matter of the price point versus the brass/steel trade off for the steel Wolf for me.
Personally I don't have issue with the Russian ammo. I clean my guns after shooting anyway, the difference in work is negligible, and it shoots fine. Some see it as cheap or sub-standard, I've never had or seen any issues with it at a rate higher than the US made ammo.
Maybe you don't load with it in your 9mm for carry (maybe you do, like I said I haven't seen evidence of statistically higher failure rates), but for range ammo I don't see a problem unless a particular gun has an issue with steel case.
The only disadvantage to it IMO is that you can't reload Berdan primed steel case ammo very easily. It can be done, but it's a non-standard deal. So if you reload I wouldn't buy it, otherwise I wouldn't think twice about using the Russian ammo for range shooting.
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09-04-2013, 11:09 PM
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Got some Herter's "Select Grade" 9mm a few weeks ago, it's made by Sellier & Bellot, a czech maker owned by CBC now. I've never heard any complaints about them. It's brass case, brass jacket, boxer primed.
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I thought I read somewhere that Wolf 22 is actually made in Germany.
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WOLF .22 rimfire is made by SK Jagd Munitions (which I believe is still be made in Germany) which is a product of Nammo Lapua Oy of Finland.
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09-05-2013, 05:56 AM
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I thought I read somewhere that Wolf 22 is actually made in Germany.
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And Wolf Gold rifle ammo with brass cases is made by Prvi Partizan.
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09-05-2013, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Protected One
I just saw some ammo from Russia called TulAmmo. 115gr., steel (grey) cased, and Berdan primer. $10.67/50 9mm, $14.47/50 .40cal(180gr)
Anyone familiar with it? I was ready to buy some until I saw it was made in Russia. Seems like I read someplace to stay away from Russian ammo.
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We're have you been? Lol ya the stuff is good IMHO.
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I routinely buy the 9mm aluminum case TNJ (total nylon jacket) by the bucket full. I just ordered 10 boxes on line and it was delivered free to my local store in Ft. Worth, TX. I have been doing that for about a year and have had zero failures and is more accurate than me. Also, in lesser volume, I have used the 40 and 45 ACP with the same results. I, also, routinely clean my weapons after each use and find it no worse than other "major" brands. The stuff works; it is reasonably priced; the store has not gouged me as a customer with stratosphere prices (no, I do not work there) and I am welcomed there with respect. I ask for nothing else.
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