Best short barrel 45 ACP loads

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Can we have a discussion of the best 45 ACP short barrel loads?

I am interested in loads for the S&W 457 or 4513TSW?

However, if someone has experience with the M&P 45 compact I would like to hear that too. It a possible future gun.
 
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Although I'm not speaking through experience here in regards to the 45 ACP, I like the Speer Gold Dot in any handgun caliber. I just bought an H & K USP compact stainless, and a bunch of 230 grain Gold Dot ammo for it. I have total confidence in it, having used it in other handguns. I went with the 230 grain, even though the barrel on the USP compact is somewhat short. I know there are other very good loads, but this is the one that I am going to use (provided it shoots well in my particular gun.) wyatte
 
Second the Speer SB. The Banes Copper round in all it's configurations, Cor-Bon, Buffalo Bore etc is a good round too.
 
I think the 185 grain .45 ACP Speer Gold Dot is a very good short barrel load. We processed an officer-involved-shooting a few months back and the suspect was shot with a Springfield XDS from 10 feet. The bullet retained 100% of it's weight, penetrated 11 inches and mushroomed to .669 inches. From witness statements the suspect dropped immediately...literally collapsing on himself.

Just an opinion, but the cartridge design seemed to work well.

Addition: I will say this though about the 185 grain Speer Gold Dot in terms of dislikes..as the bullet is short it sets back in the cartridge case fairly fast. I see officers loading and unloading the same round again and again and when we used the 230 grain Speer Gold Dot it wasn't a problem, but the 185s set back about half way after about three or four loadings. For the private person this may not be an issue, but for LEOs it may. I don't think the 230 grain Speer Gold Dot would have dropped the suspect as fast, but it was a more "stout cartridge" for LEO use in my opinion as the cartridge case has more surface area to grab the bullet. I hope this makes sense, but I've been seeing our 1911s beating the **** out the 185s and that didn't happen before.
 
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This link from the Wilson Combat Blog pertains specifically to short barrel 1911s, but has ammo suggestions that might apply more broadly:

A Reliable Compact 1911 by Bill Wilson

Thank You for that. Good read for sure.

I was just going to say that good ol' 230-gr ball is very good and I still believe it is for those who choose to own 3" versions.
 
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