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12-21-2013, 12:09 PM
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Herters brand ammo
Yes I recently purchased some herters 9mm ammo from cabelas to shoot through my new m&p shield. It was cheap and I said I would give it a try well when it arrived at the house I un boxed the ammo it is steel with a coating on casing and it does look kind of cheap ammo and the casing is stamped with tulammo on it anyway I done some research and come across horrible reviews for ammo but found out the herters is made by the same ammo manufacturing plant as wolf and tulammo. Anyway I took it to range to try out and I put 50 rounds though the m&P and it shoots flawless no fte or FTf at all so I am impressed it does seem like it might be a little dirtier powder they use but can't beat the price just wanted to see what others have used this ammo if they have had good or bad luck thanks.
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12-21-2013, 12:29 PM
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Yes I recently purchased some herters 9mm ammo from cabelas to shoot through my new m&p shield. It was cheap and I said I would give it a try well when it arrived at the house I un boxed the ammo it is steel with a coating on casing and it does look kind of cheap ammo and the casing is stamped with tulammo on it anyway I done some research and come across horrible reviews for ammo but found out the herters is made by the same ammo manufacturing plant as wolf and tulammo. Anyway I took it to range to try out and I put 50 rounds though the m&P and it shoots flawless no fte or FTf at all so I am impressed it does seem like it might be a little dirtier powder they use but can't beat the price just wanted to see what others have used this ammo if they have had good or bad luck thanks.
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I know that I'm talking about completely different ammo but I'll relate my experience. To me, it's worth trying the cheaper ammo in any caliber. Notice I said try. I have an extremely accurate .22 target pistol and I wanted the most accurate ammo possible. I bought ammo that varied from really cheap to really expensive. I bench rested the gun to test all equally and found the cheapest to be the best. I purchased this stuff by the case and still have a small amount left to shoot but, unfortunately, it's no longer available. Of course, now almost nothing is available so who knows what I'll be shooting when my supply runs out.
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12-21-2013, 01:20 PM
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I buy it all the time. Shoot thousands of rounds a year in many calibers. In all my years of shooting it I have had exactly 4 problems. 2 hard primers needing a second strike and 2 with primers seated too deep.
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12-21-2013, 01:59 PM
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I do not see any steel herter on cabelas site. They make brass and aluminum. Both are clearly labeled on the box. I have shot some the aluminum in 40 with no problem
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12-21-2013, 05:11 PM
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I do not see any steel herter on cabelas site. They make brass and aluminum. Both are clearly labeled on the box. I have shot some the aluminum in 40 with no problem
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They have steel, brass, and aluminum. I swear by the brass stuff, which is typically made by Selier & Belot. I haven't bought the alumunum, because it's the same price as the brass. I've always stayed away from the steel, although most who have used it say it's just fine. In their store they have brass 9mm @ $13.99, aluminum @ $13.99. and steel $11.99.
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12-21-2013, 06:02 PM
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Yep, Use the SP stuff in my .303 Brit & SKS.
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12-21-2013, 07:01 PM
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Yes I recently purchased some herters 9mm ammo from cabelas to shoot through my new m&p shield. It was cheap and I said I would give it a try well when it arrived at the house I un boxed the ammo it is steel with a coating on casing and it does look kind of cheap ammo and the casing is stamped with tulammo on it anyway I done some research and come across horrible reviews for ammo but found out the herters is made by the same ammo manufacturing plant as wolf and tulammo. Anyway I took it to range to try out and I put 50 rounds though the m&P and it shoots flawless no fte or FTf at all so I am impressed it does seem like it might be a little dirtier powder they use but can't beat the price just wanted to see what others have used this ammo if they have had good or bad luck thanks.
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Welcome to the 21st century. Commas and periods cost extra.
Sorry, Kid. I couldn't help myself. No offense meant.
Good review and welcome aboard.
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12-21-2013, 10:12 PM
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Welcome to the 21st century. Commas and periods cost extra.
Sorry, Kid. I couldn't help myself. No offense meant.
Good review and welcome aboard.
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LOL, yeah a couple of those are among the longest run-on sentences I've seen in a while!
Anyways, this review is very timely since I just bought 4 boxes of their brass-cased ammo today. 2x.38 special 158g FNFMJ for $18 each and 2x9mm 115g RNFMJ for $14 each. Best prices in town. Interesting thing is that they are both brass jacketed instead of copper....
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12-21-2013, 10:29 PM
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I just bought some of the Steel case 9 mm at Cabela's for $8.99 a box. It is shooting just fine. At this price I can afford to take out my guns and shoot again.
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12-21-2013, 10:38 PM
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I've shot both Herter's and S&B in .38 Special and 9mm FMJ. Both worked just fine. I wish I could find more, but the supply has dried up.
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12-21-2013, 11:58 PM
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I've shot both Herter's and S&B in .38 Special and 9mm FMJ. Both worked just fine. I wish I could find more, but the supply has dried up.
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It will be back, as they've been buying mass quantities, at least of the 9mm. I went to the store to pick up the 4 boxes of 9 I had backordered, only to find that they had almost 500 boxes on the shelves. They also had an ammo can deal with 300 rd of brass fmj and a plastic dry box for $82.99. Only a buck less than 6 individual boxes, but then you get an $8 box. Try backordering some 9mm with ship to store if you have a Cabela's nearby. It probably won't take that long, and they don't charge your card til it ships.
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12-22-2013, 01:17 AM
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I just bought some of the Steel case 9 mm at Cabela's for $8.99 a box. It is shooting just fine. At this price I can afford to take out my guns and shoot again.
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SERIOUSLY? $9 a box? I'm guessing the steel cases aren't reloadable?
Still, 18 cents a round is pretty impressive - you can't reload 'em for much less than that!
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12-22-2013, 01:24 AM
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SERIOUSLY? $9 a box? I'm guessing the steel cases aren't reloadable?
Still, 18 cents a round is pretty impressive - you can't reload 'em for much less than that!
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That's cheap all right. Everyone complains about the price of ammo, but that's the same as I was paying 20 years ago when I bought my first 9mm. I happened to see the receipt a couple of weeks ago. $450 for a Springfield P9c and $8.99 for a box of Blazer alum cased 9mm.
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12-22-2013, 09:55 AM
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I've shot the brass and aluminum case 9mm without any problems whatsoever. Excellent range ammo and the price is right.
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12-22-2013, 10:04 AM
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Herter's is simply repackaged Tula which is sold by Cabela's. The quality control is not the greatest. I use only their 7.62x39 and I have experienced two instances with the 154 gr. SP where the powder did not ignite and the force of the primer alone was enough to stick the bullet in the bore. Others have experienced this with their 7.62x39 ammo. The bottom line is you get what you pay for. I consider it practice ammo only and will never use it for "serious" purposes. You absolutely must check the bore every time you get a click instead of a bang.
And yes, both the Boxer and Berdan primed steel cases can be reloaded. I load both and the practice can come in handy when you don't want to lose good brass.
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12-22-2013, 02:56 PM
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I've used Tulammo .45 ACP and 7.62x39 steel cased ammo.
Yes, their powder is dirty, but it was reliable and accurate enough.
Their pistol ammo is Boxer primed. Their rifle ammo is Berdan primed.
I plan on reloading the .45 to use in my Ruger BH.
No misfires so far.
But, I was using 123 grain 7.62x39.
It's been good, cheap, range-blasting ammo.
It lets me save the good stuff for serious use.
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12-22-2013, 07:14 PM
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I've actually pulled apart 100 rds or herter's/tula and weighed the charges. They use 5.0gr of some stick powder(grain size similar to Reloader 15) which I found interesting. Largest deviation was -0.2gr, average of all was +/-0.1gr can't remember if it was on the high or low. It was actually very consistent.
I was going to do bulk WWB or Fed Champion as a comparison but this was so time consuming I opted to pass.
This was for 45acp btw
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I haven't tried Herter's steel-cased handgun ammo yet, but I would if I saw some for sale. I've shot about a case of their steel .223 through my AR, and even though it's dirty, it functions flawlessly and is no more inconsistent than some brass ammo I've shot.
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12-22-2013, 08:46 PM
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...both the Boxer and Berdan primed steel cases can be reloaded. I load both and the practice can come in handy when you don't want to lose good brass.
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Good info - do you need to do or have anything special to reload them, or do they flare and crimp just like any other case material?
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Interesting thread from which I have learned a couple things.
I have bought Herters 38 special and 357 mag online from Cabelas. Both are in brass cases and fmj. I believe what I got was made by S&B. Both shot just fine.
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12-22-2013, 09:13 PM
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Good info - do you need to do or have anything special to reload them, or do they flare and crimp just like any other case material?
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You need to be cautious on over expansion more so than compared with brass. When steel deforms it won't spring back as much as brass, so it's easier to loose neck tension. Conversely a sizing die will actually result in a final size smaller than brass.
I have only loaded steel 45.
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12-22-2013, 10:35 PM
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I haven't bought anything with the Herters name since they closed up shop in Mitchell, MT. They had pretty good stuff back then, now only another marketing name.
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12-23-2013, 10:11 AM
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I reload Boxer primed steel .45 ACP cases just like I do brass with no special attention.
Berdan primed rifle cases (both steel and brass) are deprimed by filling the case with water and then tapping out the primer with a tight fitting rod. It can be time consuming but it works very well.
My reloading career would be much easier if somebody factory loaded 7.62x39 with Boxer primed steel cases.
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