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Old 01-07-2014, 06:05 PM
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A fellow shooter told me some Walmarts are no longer stocking bulk boxes of 22 ammo. So I ask the guy behind the gun counter at our local Walmart and he tells me no bulk boxes in a couple months, only boxes of 50 or 100 rnds. Could this be due to the hoarders, gougers,and such or just a coinsidence?
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I can't answer your question. FWIW I haven't seen a box of 22 ammo for sale in a store for over a year.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:51 PM
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Market forces are a bitch. Bricks are now shrinking to about 350 instead of 500 or 550. Prices are way, way up. My guess is that the suppliers are shipping smaller boxes because they get a better profit.
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Every time people don't see .22 at Walmart, rumors start about how they won't be carrying ammo. They will be carrying ammo. You just have to be there when they have it. Check ammo-can.net for inventory before you go. Or the Android app.
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Every time people don't see .22 at Walmart, rumors start about how they won't be carrying ammo. They will be carrying ammo. You just have to be there when they have it. Check ammo-can.net for inventory before you go. Or the Android app.
I use ammo-can regularly and that's how I know this is not just a rumor as well as hearing it from others. Last summer they seem to have bulk boxes quite often. Thanks for the tip anyway.
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Not really sure how the fact that none has appeared in a while proves that they aren't carrying it. I haven't seen .22 ammo in a long time at a lot of other stores. So I guess they've all stopped selling it.
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By the way "I've heard it from others" kind of defines "rumor" doesn't it? These stories have circulated about Walmart ammo for years. And yet they still sell ammo.
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My son is a Manager at my local WalMart. They receive a shipment of Fed 550 bricks almost weekly. They put them out at 8:00 AM and they are gone by 8:15.

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A fellow shooter told me some Walmarts are no longer stocking bulk boxes of 22 ammo. So I ask the guy behind the gun counter at our local Walmart and he tells me no bulk boxes in a couple months, only boxes of 50 or 100 rnds. Could this be due to the hoarders, gougers,and such or just a coinsidence?
I can confirm that the two Walmarts in my town have NOT had any BULK 22 in ~3 months.

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I visited a semi-local Walmart yesterday around 8:00PM, and found 17 Federal bulk boxes on the shelf.

The ones in stock at this particular location were the "Champion" 525 boxes, and not the 550 boxes that I've bought at Walmart in the past. Even so, it was nice to get 1575 rounds of 22.
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I can't answer your question. FWIW I haven't seen a box of 22 ammo for sale in a store for over a year.
I found two. When I was new to buying guns (this past august) I bought a 22 and the store had 3 525 count boxes of 22lr, so I bought one. I didn't know there was an ammo shortage. Now that I've learned up all the political anti gun stuff, and the great ammo shortage, I ask every time I go in the gun store and last month I found one 100 count box of 22 shorts. Other than that, nothing

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Every time people don't see .22 at Walmart, rumors start about how they won't be carrying ammo. They will be carrying ammo. You just have to be there when they have it. Check ammo-can.net for inventory before you go. Or the Android app.
I believe an intelligent company will sell whatever they can legally make money with... So I'm with you here. I don't think Wal-Mart is political. My local one is selling ar-15s, but a different Wal-Mart that is in a more left wing area doesn't even sell paintball guns.

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I believe an intelligent company will sell whatever they can legally make money with... So I'm with you here. I don't think Wal-Mart is political. My local one is selling ar-15s, but a different Wal-Mart that is in a more left wing area doesn't even sell paintball guns.

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I have no idea how they decide where to sell guns and where not to sell guns. People try to make them out as "anti-gun" and yet they are the largest gun dealer in the US and the world.
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By the way "I've heard it from others" kind of defines "rumor" doesn't it? These stories have circulated about Walmart ammo for years. And yet they still sell ammo.
When I hear it from the guy that works the Walmart ammo counter in the morning I consider more than just a rumor. I know they still sell ammo but neither he nor I have seen bulk boxes in months, other stores may be different.
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When I hear it from the guy that works the Walmart ammo counter in the morning I consider more than just a rumor. I know they still sell ammo but neither he nor I have seen bulk boxes in months, other stores may be different.
I'd label that a strong rumor, probably a fact if the proper sources and research was given. But still, a rumor.

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Can't tell you when I last saw any 22 ammo at WM-- I stopped looking unless I am in the area, then I might glance that way. Just glad I have enough.
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When I hear it from the guy that works the Walmart ammo counter in the morning I consider more than just a rumor. I know they still sell ammo but neither he nor I have seen bulk boxes in months, other stores may be different.
Really? A minimum wage employee at the ammo counter is your go-to source for corporate news? I can go to google right now and find virtually this same discussion from 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. Joe sporting goods manager told all us employees this is going to be the last of the ammo. Once the warehouse is cleaned out, no more ammo. They aren't ordering any more ammo. If you believe this, then why not just stay out of Walmart and leave the ammo for those who aren't privy to this inside information?
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Same discussion, same time last year: WalMart will no longer sell ammunitions and Firearms - SIG Talk
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Really? A minimum wage employee at the ammo counter is your go-to source for corporate news? I can go to google right now and find virtually this same discussion from 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. Joe sporting goods manager told all us employees this is going to be the last of the ammo. Once the warehouse is cleaned out, no more ammo. They aren't ordering any more ammo. If you believe this, then why not just stay out of Walmart and leave the ammo for those who aren't privy to this inside information?
First, I NEVER said Walmart would stop selling ammo. That minimum wage employee, as you like to call him, is a lot closer to the situation than you are. I heard all the same talk you heard in 2008,2009,2010,2011, and 2012. This is a different subject. This is about bulk boxes of ammunition, nothing more. Don't let your imagination turn it into anything else.
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The ONLY ammo I have seen in my local Wallmart has been Shot Shells. The fellow that works that Dept. told me he has not gotten any ammo to speak of in over a year - except the 12 gauge and 20 gauge light promo ammo. I have not even bothered to stop in anymore to look as I have NEVER scored there!
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...Could this be due to the hoarders, gougers,and such or just a coinsidence?
None of the above. Never has, never will.

It has everything to do with the folks who are buying ammunition at the price point being offered. Always has, always will.

Oh, by the way, we prefer the term "Prepper" - it's more tacti-cool!
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None of the above. Never has, never will.

It has everything to do with the folks who are buying ammunition at the price point being offered. Always has, always will.

Oh, by the way, we prefer the term "Prepper" - it's more tacti-cool!

And "Hoarder" has such a negative connotation to it.
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There are routinely 7-8 people who camp out in the sporting goods section for hours at a time awaiting a shipment. When it arrives, they buy it all, and I see these same people re- selling at the next gun show for excessive scalper price.

This is what is causing the shortage. Walmart should record the names of purchasers (internal use only). With their names popping up everyday, Walmart could easily see that most of their customers are being undercut by these scalpers and take corrective measures. Instead, they maintain the first come, first serve capitalist approach.

I haven't been able to find any .22 cal at my local Walmart for longer than I can remember. However, I do see the same people camped out in the sporting goods isle. (Yes, some even bring their lunch and borrow Walmarts folding chairs to wait in).

In the cold snap we've been experiencing lately (2 nights ago), I had to go out to Walmart to stock up on soup, etc, but I didn't buy the shelves bare. Just a few cans to get by on.

While there, I wandered over to sporting goods. Isle was un-inhabited, I assume from the poor weather. Much to my amazement, there were 3 bricks of Federal .22 cal in the 525 packs on the shelf.

I bought one ($20.97) and took it, along with my soup, and headed back in the storm for home.

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T...Instead, they maintain the first come, first serve capitalist approach...
Well, it is Wal-Mart after all. They just want to sell stuff. Money is green, no matter who hands it over to the cashier. Why should they care? What is social-engineering going to get them? It might get them "dedicated customers", but they don't care about dedicated customers. Nobody in the big-box retail business does. There are plenty of customers who shop there because it's cheap, and you can show up in size 88 sweat pants and fit right in.
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Well, it is Wal-Mart after all. They just want to sell stuff. Money is green, no matter who hands it over to the cashier.
And being that they're the #1 retailer of ammo in the country, it would make no economic sense for them to stop carrying something that sells out within hours of hitting the shelves, like .22 bulk packs. I suppose it's possible that they would, because of all the negative publicity they receive over their ammo sales. (Gougers are getting it all, employees are stashing it for their buddies, employees are charging kickbacks to let people know when the ammo comes in, yadda yadda yadda) For every person complaining, there are 3 people who get a good percentage of their ammo at Walmart at a decent price. Money talks, you know what walks.
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But this thread is proof positive that Walmart isn't "stocking" bulk 22 ammo. They may be selling all they receive, but its all gone to quickly for them to stock it on the shelves. Up it goes, and then out the door. Usually the same day, often the same hour. If any makes it overnight, its a rare situation. For them to stock it, its got to last at least until the next back up delivery arrives. Pretty hard to do with all you hoarders and preppers buying them out on a daily basis.
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My local Wally World gets bulk boxes from time to time and they go right out the door.

About a month ago I stopped in and they had 325 rnd tin cans that you open like a soup can.

So I grabbed three -- the limit. I bet the rest were gone within a 1/2 hour.

Walmart management is pretty smart. I bet they have large orders in with every manufacturer for everything they can produce. Walmart management, no doubt realizes they can sell anything they can get.

My local Walmart even has 50 BMG for sale.

They got it the day before Christmas and I considered buying a box so I could put hooks in the rounds and use them for Christmas tree ornaments.

I figured that would gross out some of my Sierra Club friends that came over for a New Years party.

But at about $4 per round, it didn't seem worth it.
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It's not rare at all for it to be sitting on the shelves for a few days around here. Heck i bought my 3 box limit yesterday and my ole lady went and bought her a 3 box limit today. She tells me she found the Winchester 555rds this morning that were sitting on the shelves with the same federal 525 that i bought yesterday. Granted the winchester wasnt there yesterday evening, but the federal indeed was. So the federal has been on the shelf for over 24hrs now (that i know of). It could have very well been put on the shelves a day or so before i found it yesterday.

It's easing up people, just give it time. Like all the rest of the .223 ammo and the Pmags. It'll get back to normal in due time.
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I bought 3 boxes of 525 round federal 22lr at wal-mart yesterday at 7pm for about $20/box. So at least here in Louisville, Ky they are stocking them, at reasonable prices. Rumors are just that, quit buying 22lr for use as currency in the new world order, quit buying it for exorbitant scalper prices, and 22lr will be easier to find for a good price at wally world.
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I bought 3 boxes of 525 round federal 22lr at wal-mart yesterday at 7pm for about $20/box. So at least here in Louisville, Ky they are stocking them, at reasonable prices. Rumors are just that, quit buying 22lr for use as currency in the new world order, quit buying it for exorbitant scalper prices, and 22lr will be easier to find for a good price at wally world.
...wouldn't 308s be worth more after the apocalypse, anyway? 22 is great and all, but 308 will bring down bigger animals like people, deer, bear, etc a lot more effectively.

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It's not rare at all for it to be sitting on the shelves for a few days around here. Heck i bought my 3 box limit yesterday and my ole lady went and bought her a 3 box limit today. She tells me she found the Winchester 555rds this morning that were sitting on the shelves with the same federal 525 that i bought yesterday. Granted the winchester wasnt there yesterday evening, but the federal indeed was. So the federal has been on the shelf for over 24hrs now (that i know of). It could have very well been put on the shelves a day or so before i found it yesterday.

It's easing up people, just give it time. Like all the rest of the .223 ammo and the Pmags. It'll get back to normal in due time.
Not around here it aint easing up and aint staying on the shelves.
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So it is confirmed? There are capitalists in the United States of America? How did that happen?

With the current 22 ammo crisis, I am curious as to why you only bought one 525 pack.
Personally, I would have passed on the soup and bought all the ammo, gone to the gun show, profited in a criminal fashion, then went back, and bought all the soup with the profits.
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I've noticed that Rick never runs out of .357 for that old Python he packs. Same with Darrel and the crossbow bolts. It must be because everyone concentrated on buying up all the .22 ammo before the zombies came.........
Myself, I'll just keep loading .38 Spl with whatever components are available. That will take care of all the zombies and perps down in my pasture for a while.....
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So it is confirmed? There are capitalists in the United States of America? How did that happen?

With the current 22 ammo crisis, I am curious as to why you only bought one 525 pack.
Personally, I would have passed on the soup and bought all the ammo, gone to the gun show, profited in a criminal fashion, then went back, and bought all the soup with the profits.
I'm a CCI person myself. Federal isnt my first choice of ammo, if of course there is a choice to be made. I just took my limit and made it easy for others to buy ammo also. No since in me hogging up all the ammo or trying to sell it for 4x's the price.

Had there been no CCI in the building. I wouldnt have bought any .22lr at all.
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I visited a semi-local Walmart yesterday around 8:00PM, and found 17 Federal bulk boxes on the shelf.



The ones in stock at this particular location were the "Champion" 525 boxes, and not the 550 boxes that I've bought at Walmart in the past. Even so, it was nice to get 1575 rounds of 22.

And right there is one problem... Walmart should never have sold you 3 boxes of it... ALL Walmarts I have been to (30 total ) have a 1 bulk pack limit....
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WOW, 30 Walmart stores, where do you live. Every Walmart around here (DFW area) and near everyone else I know sells you 3 of anything. AND, it's NOT a problem.

I too noticed the "standard packaging" when I pick up my 3 boxes multiple times last week, in the MIDDLE of the day

OK BLUJAX, added this for you!! ------- I bought all this 22 for my hoarder prepper flipper gouger selfish ingrate closet


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Stocking? Just today I was over at Walmart. They had some ammo including 9mm. No 22. When I asked about the 22 the lady says- we are actually getting in more 22. OK! But- one guy cones in and buys all of it.
So I say- what happened to the buy limit? She say- The manager removed the limit because we are getting more in.
Say what? It don't matter to me how much they get in if I can't walk in and buy a couple of big bulk boxes.
This too will pass? I hope.
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Every time people don't see .22 at Walmart, rumors start about how they won't be carrying ammo. They will be carrying ammo. You just have to be there when they have it. Check ammo-can.net for inventory before you go. Or the Android app.
What's the name of that Android app?
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Walmart is still selling 22 ammo but they first ship ammo to high volume hunting locations not big city stores in general. Before the panic Walmart got an extra 10-15% savings over the price that distributors paid. Once the panic ammo makers told Wally to go screw and made them pay the same price that everyone else pays. Some ammo makers are now making a Walmart size box which has less ammo so Wally can make more profit. Hording is some of the problem but dealer greed is a big part. I found out from the local District Manager that ammo was always put out at 8:00 AM but sells out quick. I showed up one day and caught the owner of a local gunstore trying to purchase all 22 ammo. He had been selling it at twice the price.
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There are routinely 7-8 people who camp out in the sporting goods section for hours at a time awaiting a shipment. When it arrives, they buy it all, and I see these same people re- selling at the next gun show for excessive scalper price.

This is what is causing the shortage. Walmart should record the names of purchasers (internal use only). With their names popping up everyday, Walmart could easily see that most of their customers are being undercut by these scalpers and take corrective measures. Instead, they maintain the first come, first serve capitalist approach.

I haven't been able to find any .22 cal at my local Walmart for longer than I can remember. However, I do see the same people camped out in the sporting goods isle. (Yes, some even bring their lunch and borrow Walmarts folding chairs to wait in).

In the cold snap we've been experiencing lately (2 nights ago), I had to go out to Walmart to stock up on soup, etc, but I didn't buy the shelves bare. Just a few cans to get by on.

While there, I wandered over to sporting goods. Isle was un-inhabited, I assume from the poor weather. Much to my amazement, there were 3 bricks of Federal .22 cal in the 525 packs on the shelf.

I bought one ($20.97) and took it, along with my soup, and headed back in the storm for home.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Your own words "However, I do see the same people camped out in the sporting goods isle."convict you. You are there with the very people you blame for you not finding ammo. I highly suggest that you just get there earlier and quit blaming others because you can't find ammo.
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What's the name of that Android app?
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Quite simply called the Walmart Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...almart.android
There's a long thread on this forum about using it: OFFICIAL Using Wal-Mart App/Website
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Caught him, eh? And then you did what?
Hopefully he was arrested and charged with "free enterprise in the 1st degree."
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Quite simply called the Walmart Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...almart.android
There's a long thread on this forum about using it: OFFICIAL Using Wal-Mart App/Website
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And being that they're the #1 retailer of ammo in the country, it would make no economic sense for them to stop carrying something that sells out within hours of hitting the shelves, like .22 bulk packs. I suppose it's possible that they would, because of all the negative publicity they receive over their ammo sales. (Gougers are getting it all, employees are stashing it for their buddies, employees are charging kickbacks to let people know when the ammo comes in, yadda yadda yadda) For every person complaining, there are 3 people who get a good percentage of their ammo at Walmart at a decent price. Money talks, you know what walks.
Trouble is is, they KNOW it would still sell out if they severely limited the same group of few who buy it all-thus improving their image to more than just a few. Like someone above said, they dont care about loyal customers SOME of the time. Reason I say some of the time is because a very nice lady there gets me my two cases of Monster Moca Loca in to get when I need them.
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Stocking? Just today I was over at Walmart. They had some ammo including 9mm. No 22. When I asked about the 22 the lady says- we are actually getting in more 22. OK! But- one guy cones in and buys all of it.
So I say- what happened to the buy limit? She say- The manager removed the limit because we are getting more in.
Say what? It don't matter to me how much they get in if I can't walk in and buy a couple of big bulk boxes.
This too will pass? I hope.
Prime case on W/m dropping the ball on the one yard line.
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So it is confirmed? There are capitalists in the United States of America? How did that happen?

With the current 22 ammo crisis, I am curious as to why you only bought one 525 pack.
Personally, I would have passed on the soup and bought all the ammo, gone to the gun show, profited in a criminal fashion, then went back, and bought all the soup with the profits.
Maybe he didnt buy it all is because he isnt greedy, neither am I. Ive had a few opportunities to ""Hog"" it all, but chose not to be greedy about it. Not being greedy is a choice I live comfortably with!
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