Just read an article stating Russia is halting all Soviet ammo to the US. They are stating that this ammo was soon go the same way as .22 has gone. I do not know how accurate these claims are, or how legit the website is, just putting it out there. Like always, DYOD.

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In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy and fears of new control control legislation from the Obama administration, extreme shortages of ammunition have been sustained over the past 12-24 months, as panicked Americans have raided the shelves of Cabelas and gun-shows across the country buying literally every round they can get their hands on.

Combined with multi-billion round purchases from gov’t 3 letter acronyms such as the DHS and FBI, (including even the USPS and IRS), the shortages have continued even as manufacturers have responded by drastically increasing production.

Over the past 6-12 months, shortages of some calibers such as 7.62 used in the popular AK-47 semi-automatic weapon have been alleviated somewhat via massive imports of Russian production.

That is about to change.

The largest wholesale gun & ammo distributors in the US have informed us in private conversation today that a massive scramble is on for all 7.62 as Russia has reportedly halted all exports to the US of Russian made ammunition.

Our distributor source informed us that yesterday they had several hundred thousand rounds of Russian made 7.62 TulAmmo, and after receiving word early today on the halt of Russian exports to the US, they have been completely wiped out of every last round in the past 10 hours!


We have only several days supply of 7.62 on hand currently at SDBullion under normal market conditions, and expect it will disappear as quickly as 22 LR once word of the Russian export halt spreads.



While Obama and Kerry threaten Russia with economic sanctions over the Ukranian crisis, it appears that Putin has quietly taken the first step and launched economic sanctions of his own against the US.


We have a feeling that we are seeing only the beginning.

If I sold 7.62 ammunition and had the means to start an Internet rumor that there was going to be a shortage, I do it also. You have to be high to pay $0.50/round for 7.62x39 ammunition.

Buy RCBS dies and some bulk bullets and don't worry about it.

Nice, Putin is probably worried we could send it to the Ukranians, but If they are not willing to defend their country, why should we.

Hey I wouldn't doubt it I just bought a VZ2008 (VZ58 clone). I still see plenty ammo out there still, at the moment though at least.

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Nice to see that one government can actively manage a crisis, rather than hold endless meetings and an occasional press conference. We now return to the reloading bench.

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I figure other ex-ComBlock nations would pickup the slack.

Having both a pistol and rifle barrel (.308 bore) for my TC Encore I have reloaded 7.62 x 39 for years. I might shore up on a few more hundred Lapua brass just to be safe. Other than that it will be business as usual. The steel cased AK ammo might be another matter.

3/7 Count me in on the frenzy. Just ordered 200 more pieces of Lapua brass. I figure once the ammo goes, all of the components will be next. Better safe than sorry.

Ohh another conspiracy! I love conspiracies! And why are we still saying dhs and any other .gov agency is buying up all the ammo?

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It's a fashion statement. More people are wearing tinfoil hats than ever before.

I'm still buying 1000rd boxes for $210. So they can claim shortage all they want. Until i see it jump up to $420 for 1000rds, i'm not believe in shortage. And if shortage does come around, i'm pretty sure im very well prepared.

Don't know about you... but if indeed the IRS is buying/hoarding ammo, I'm going to request ammo instead of cash for my tax refund this year

Will the fat cats in Russia that have been living a very comfortable life, owed to the dollars being spent in the US for that ammo, quietly find a way to get it here, via a slight detour through another non-restricted country, should this silliness persist?

Or might the Chinese, and other countries, try to step in to fill the void and gain (or regain) some market share, lost when Russian made Tula/Wolf trounced the market?

Remember way back when.... when SKS's first started to become widely available here? Russian ammo was uncommon and Norinco ammo was what was you mostly found.

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IMO, someone is using all this stuff over seas as an excuse to drive the prices up of the only cheap ammo that we still have here in the states. They figure they needed and excuse to make more money, so here it is.

When the rest of the country was going crazy over ammo. I've been out buying 7.62 much more than before. Because its never a bad idea to buy ammo at cheap prices. Knowing most of the cheap (steel case) ammo is imported. It wouldnt surprise me to see our gumment stop the import of said ammo. Nor would it surprise me to see another country stop the export of said ammo. In this case its better to buy cheap now than wait and see what happens later. Take the .22lr ammo for example.

I've always enjoyed shooting my AK's more than my AR's because the AK ammo has always been cheaper to shoot. Plus the AK will eat all the dirty ammo u can possibly shove down its throat. So it makes sense to shoot cheap ammo at the range with it. The AK is the most popular so called assault rifle in the world. More civilians in the US own these than any other type. Can u imagine how much money people would give for hard to find 7.62. Take the .22lr scare for example and how much those people spend on it.

Why would Putin halt the export of Russian ammo to the US? It's a cash crop for him, especially if economic sanctions are put into effect on other financial enterprises. The story would make sense if it read that the US was going to stop buying all Russian ammo as part of economic sanctions ... I call Bravo Sierra on this "news" ...

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QUICK!!! HURRY!!! In addition to the 22 LR, buy all the 7.62 ammo ammo you can find, even if you don't need it!!!!!

I have a feeling there is going to be a shortage!!!

Spread the unfounded rumor so everyone gets this information too before it is too late!!!

China got barred from sales of guns and ammo due to a little thing about the Chinese sending some select fire ak's and not telling anyone until they hit the dock. big mistake of course.

I remember a time when .22lr was all over the place. And many thought they would always be easy to find. Little did they know the life and times of .22lr would end up the way it has now. So it wouldnt surprise me to see some other **** happen.

I wonder whats going to happen if this country has a lack in the water supply.

I have no dog in this fight. Don't know if these rumors are true, but it wouldn't surprise me if we saw another ammo shortage. Figured I'd put the article up, and let people decide for themselves.

I saw a video on youtube warning the run was on, it was uploaded about 5pm MT, I read on the net later that James Yeager called it yesterday
I have been watching one of my favorite case suppliers and have seen the cheaper Wolf stuff (in stock count) going down pretty steadily in the last hour and a half or so.

OK best way to conform this rumor is to check the price on CTD. They will jack up the price if any grain of truth.

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I dont need or want any 7.62, so you can have my fair share of it. There, my part is done and no contributing to a possible problem.

There are 30,000 Russian troops on the ground in Crimea and news organizations are being censored. Putin told the US to back off. This is a real crises and the last time there was such a confrontation it had a name, The Cuban Missile Crises. Its getting deep and we have no idea how this will end.

I'm watching this like everyone else. My money is on the US banning the import, not Russia banning the export. The good folks here in the US will create their own shortage in good time just like they did with the last one even if nothing materializes from either gov't. They won't be able to blame it on the DHS this time either because I'm pretty sure they don't buy Tula or Wolf or any ammo from the eastern bloc.

Personally I think it would be a good thing if we started relying on our own companies to manufacture our ammo and components and quit buying ammo from places like Mexico and the eastern bloc.

I've purposely stayed away from buying any firearms in Euro calibers because the ammo for many of these firearms is usually made outside the US.

Eventually ammo imports will be banned anyway by this adm or the next one so you might as well learn to reload or get cozy with paying a $1 a round for ammo.

The days of cheap ammo are over.

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That's just somebody talkin.

Hell, if the US manufacturers can create a "shortage" why can't Uncle Putty?

Rifle ammunition. 7.62x39 ammo for sale. Cheap ammo. Bulk ammo.

Get em while they're hot!!!

I read an interview today with the head of Wolf, and he denied any shortage of 7.62 ammo now or in the near future, essentially debunking the current rumor.

As far as anyone believing that moron Yeager and his idiotic proclamations, know your source. Yeager is a well known grandstanding braggart and buffoon, and a legend in his own mind. I wouldn't trust him for directions across the street.

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I'm with the banned ...

I only shoot 7.62X25 and I can make that from .223.

Sounds like more internet BS to me . I just looked at several distributors websites and they had plenty of it at regular prices .
The sky is falling !!!

Well you need to start thinking how this will work itself out. There are reports of up to 30,000 Russian troops that have moved into Crimea. A vote to leave and join Russia is going to happen in the Crimea. The EU and the US are talking sancions. A lot of the ammuniton in American stores come from Russia or are manufacured by Russian companies. To say the possibility that that ammo will continue to flow without interruption is simply silly. A prudent gun owner would secure what ammo they can given the present situation which is only going to get worse before it gets better.

Remember 7.62 x 39 or 7.62x54 are not the only calibers that would be impacted by any sanctions. There are the popular calibers in 9mm and 223. What do you think would happen if all the ammo made by Russian companies were no longer available. If sanctions are imposed against Russian Ammunition manufactures then its 2013 ammo shortage all over again. Something each one of us must take into account in our decision making process. I hope we don't see anything that would impede the flow of ammo but one must prepared just in case.

Lady T,
I'll agee with you. Shortages may or may not happen. Rumor is most likely bunk, but best to buy sufficient reserves and be prepared just in case. In the event a shortage does happen you won't be crying later on.

Fact 1) Russia is bout to go to war.

Are they going to continue shipping ammo overseas, or are they going to gear up production for their own use?

Fact 2) U.S. politicians are already calling for trade sanctions against Russia.

If you ever had a hankering for a Cuban cigar, well, you know what trade sanctions mean.

It is available now. What is available next week is certainly in question if you ask me.

I really hope it doesn't as I've just bought my first Mosin and have yet to shoot it. What I don't need is another caliber pushing $1 a round or more.

Just remember that that caliber doesn't just come from Russia .
It seems that all those ex Soviet bloc countries export those calibers .

According to the Military Arms Channel this is just misinformation. He doesn't have a stake in the ammo industry, and he's got a reputable channel on YouTube.

https://www.thebangswitch.com/is-the...ing-to-an-end/

True but their stockpiles are just a fraction of Russia's even if taken together.

In that post he says the companies are producing it at the rate they always have but nowhere is it mentioned that we have gone from 80 million gun owners to over 100 million gun owners. So unless we shed 20 million gun owners we will never get back to normal as the ammo makers are not expanding to meet that new demand.

That might or might not be true.

Yes, it is getting very, very deep.

What a crock.

The shop where I work orders Spam cans of the stuff on a weekly basis and there is no indication of any price increases or availability.

TargetSports just went down to $250 shipped for a thousand rounds of Wolf.

The WM I went to today, had many boxes of that and 223--bulk boxes and all. One bolk box--I forget how many rounds? possibly 250--for $35--they had several of those. I also saw the top and another shels full of various makes of 9mmand 45. At least 30 boxes of Winchester 45--several of Winchester 40, lots of Federal stuff as well. I went ahead and bought 2 boxes Fed 9mm for the hell of it. I skipped the 45.

Anyway, the new guy in charge of the ammo counter seems be "on the level" and said fewer daily faces at his counter for about the last 10 days...................................................

Well we will know soon as I believe the "vote" with only one option wll occur this Sunday so I think everything should start coming out vey soon as to what the west will do when Russia takes contril of Crimea.

I remember a few years back when .22lr was plentiful and there was no indication of a price increase or availability.

Within a few days of certain actions of a particular evil person. All of a sudden all the availability of ammo disappeared and the prices sky rocketed when it became available.

Let the past teach us a lesson and dont ever sell urself short by thinking there is no indication. The indication is whats going on overseas. Just like the indication for the AR ban and the ammo scarce was sandy hook. It may have taken a few days for all that available ammo and AR's to disappear, but the indication that it "would" disappear was all over the news.

IMO, i'll be like I have been during all of this. I'll gladly sit safe and have fun shooting tons of cheap ammo. While the others run around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off trying to find expensive ammo. Buy cheap, shoot cheap, have fun while doing so.

Oh if I was an AR Dude I would have had tons of the stuff laid in years ago. I'm just saying the the OP is rumor mongering with no evidence and I would not take action based on the "facts" presented in this thread.

It's all BS. Russia doesn't need to stock up on ammo as they are selling of their 70s and early 80s stock piles. They still have all of 00, 90s and half of the 80s in stock. That's mounds of ammo. The only disappearance of ammo is because people are hoarding. ...again. If everyone buys 10 cases in a few days of course there will be a shortage.

Lady T there is also Bulgarian, Hungarian, Romanian, and other x54 ammo.

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Surplus 7.62x54R and 5.45x39

Aim Surplus: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
MidwayUSA: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
Natchez: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
Wideners: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
TargetSports: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
ABLEAMMO: OUT----5.45x39: OUT
PSA: OUT----5.45x39: OUT

Just got back from early visit to WM--they still have all the boxes of stuff they had the same of yesterday--minus the two boxes I bought. The same guy from yesterday--said he didnt sell any type of ammo since the two I bought yesterday.

Only the Shadow knows--I guess?

Because people read that nonsense and run out and buy everything in sight. If I told you that there is going to be a ban on recoil springs I can guarantee you that everyone will be sold out of every type of spring there is

SG AMMO ----- 5.45 surplus @ $178
----- 5.45 Wolf @ $187
----- 5.45 Hornady @$20/50




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Guess we haven't learned our lesson from the past have we?

Facts are with Russian troops in Crimea and Russian troops positioned along the border of Ukraine ready to invade, sanctions from the US and the EU ready to be imposed if Russia does not back off and people think its nonsense to not act in a prudent manner to ensure they have the ammo they need.

It's beyond belief that people are ignoring what is happening and the probable impacts on ammunition supply. Not only is surplus ammo endangered but new production also. Ask yourself what would happen to the ammo supply if Russian surplus and new production was blocked from import into the American market. If you think things were bad last year just wait and see how bad things will get if ammunition produced or sold by Russian companies is banned from importation to the U.S. It will make 2013 look like a year of an ammunition glut.

We should see something sometime late Sunday or early Monday. If sanctions are indeed imposed their severity will most likely be laddered.

The 2013 frenzy had nothing to do with Russia. What happened in 08 when Russia went to war with Georgia? Any shortages? The only shortages are the ones we cause ourselves.

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Whether induced by internet hype, panic buying or real world circumstances, a shortage is a shortage. All the non believers can keep their heads buried in the sand and claim Bravo Sierra. They will be the first crying when they can't get any ammo. I don't buy any ammo since I reload everything I shoot except .22. If I did buy ammo I would be buying everything I could get my hands on. In the mean time I'm squirreling components. Good luck.