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10-01-2016, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Arik
Recommendations are almost always based on controlled factory tests along with history of real world performance. Doesn't mean you personally had that experience. It's almost impossible to give actual personal experiences since most of us have never been in a gun fight. Kinda like when you research a new car. Just cause no one you know has one doesn't make it a bad car
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Understood but I'm not going to recommend a car I've never seen, touched, driven or eaten a Big Mac in.
Lots of folks get awful defensive about their choices, based on never using them.
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10-01-2016, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steely85
Nope.
I guess that's why you didn't see a recommendation or me feeling so STRONGLY about brand XYZ because what it did to a watermelon and 3 jugs of water.
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However, if you had used a particular .38 special round to actually defend yourself, how many self-defense shootings would it take for you to deem the specific round that you used as "adequately proven" to warrant your recommendation?
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10-01-2016, 03:59 PM
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However, if you had used a particular .38 special round to actually defend yourself, how many self-defense shootings would it take for you to deem the specific round that you used as "adequately proven" to warrant your recommendation?
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From what I can tell on this thread, an example of one trumps 100 examples of none. YMMV
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10-01-2016, 04:07 PM
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From what I can tell on this thread, an example of one trumps 100 examples of none. YMMV
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So it seems that you are stating that someone who has been involved in a few shootings while using a given round has more credibility in appraising the effectiveness of that round than someone who hasn't shot anyone, but has done or seen lots of terminal ballistics tests with that round in various ballistic materials. Really?
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10-01-2016, 04:33 PM
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I carry Federal 129 grain hydra-shok JHP in my Ruger LCR . Have for years , same in my S&W 442 .
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10-01-2016, 05:12 PM
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Than we should all use FMJ and be done with it.
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Bullet selection or caliber hardly matters if someone is really a talented and experienced handgun shooter. I'll take all the help I can get from a suitably chosen round while I am working toward achieving Miculek's marksmanship skills.
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10-03-2016, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Steely85
Nope.
I guess that's why you didn't see a recommendation or me feeling so STRONGLY about brand XYZ because what it did to a watermelon and 3 jugs of water.
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The 125 grain Winchester LSWHP +p+ load I use I have personally known to end a fight with 1 shot. I also know that 6 of the Winchester Silvertip .380's will stop one. I personally know this. None of this do I know because of any testing on watermelons or jugs of water. This is I assume a family oriented forum so no more detail will follow.
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10-03-2016, 01:44 PM
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