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So I Nickel plated the entire Cartridge?
I did the best plating job on this but i thought it would be fun.
These are Sig .38 Special, so far my favorite round for .38 special. Yes, I am newer to the dynamics of shooting, but they look kind of cool? I hope they still fire, i'll find out later this week, maybe. And the plate was really thin.
Thought I would share. Thoughts?
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What purpose are you plating them for?
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Just because I can. If i did it right they could be for showcase or whatnot, but yet still be a live round.. more fun than anything else. I've done fun things like horse shoes and car parts, but this just seemed fun.
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Unless you are set up for plating, it's cheaper and easier to buy them already plated (if available). Nickel plating chemicals are not cheap in small quantities, but the process itself is fairly simple. I have nickel plated some brass rifle cases, a long time ago, but they didn't turn out as bright and shiny as yours. A battery charger can be used as a power source. I have seen how the ammunition makers do it, it's called barrel plating. As I remember they were plating about 50K pistol cases at a time.
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I have all the equipment, rectifier, prep chemicals, solutions, blasting cabinet. Just hard to find something worth working on i have my plating down to the hundredth of an amp. I have a 6 tank gallon, been learning over the last couple years when i have time.
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I didnt do the best plating job on this but i thought it would be fun.
These are Sig .38 Special, so far my favorite round for .38 special. Yes, I am newer to the dynamics of shooting, but they look kind of cool? I hope they still fire, i'll find out later this week, maybe. And the plate was really thin.
Thought I would share. Thoughts?
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I like it! You should do some .45 Colts and hand them out like the Lone Ranger!
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I just need to find out if they arent duds, due to the chemicals, if not i may have a speciality market eh
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got a 38 special round that was given to me by a New York State Trooper in the 1960's that is nickel plated. It was one of 12 he was issued by the dept. that he carried in a cartridge carrier on his duty belt
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I was beaten to it but I also had Lone Ranger flashbacks when I saw that cartridge. Thanks for posting it!!!
Maybe you would get better results if you Nickel plate the bullet before you seat it. Still cool though...
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Really cool! If you market them, what would be your price?
Maybe plate them without primer and powder?
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I would be concerned about the effect of the plating on the barrel. Based on the lack of any real wear that I've seen on common nickels for over 50 years I suspect that Nickel is a metal that approaches Steel in hardness. Think about it, my Dad had a silver dollar he carried every day since returning from WWII and by 1985 it had worn to the point where it was a silver disk with some waviness on both sides. Look at a Nickel that has been carried for 50 years and you can still read the date because the impressions are still relatively crisp.
Just saying, don't plan on shooting too many of those "sliver bullets" or you may have to purchase a new barrel.
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I would be concerned about the effect of the plating on the barrel. Based on the lack of any real wear that I've seen on common nickels for over 50 years I suspect that Nickel is a metal that approaches Steel in hardness. Think about it, my Dad had a silver dollar he carried every day since returning from WWII and by 1985 it had worn to the point where it was a silver disk with some waviness on both sides. Look at a Nickel that has been carried for 50 years and you can still read the date because the impressions are still relatively crisp.
Just saying, don't plan on shooting too many of those "sliver bullets" or you may have to purchase a new barrel.
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I just did a few of these just to see how it would work out, I think it would be more of a novelty, but they would still fire.
I read about the possible effects of Nickel on a barrel, so for purposes would not put a very thick layer on it to avoid such damage. Could be cool for showing off in a display case or some of the Beauty shots i see people have on the board.
In this case i didnt have the current up high enough and the solution was a bit cold. I was able to wipe it right off the top with a little metal polish and just my hand.
So it was a nice thin layer that shouldn't cause any problems, However i wouldn't go shooting boxes of them at a time, just something nice that still "functions".
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Something else to consider. The bullet now has plating binding it to the case. This could increase pressures as the bullet has to break that seal. Kind of like gluing it in place.
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If you are worried about werewolves you will need to SILVER plate them...
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Something else to consider. The bullet now has plating binding it to the case. This could increase pressures as the bullet has to break that seal. Kind of like gluing it in place.
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Not too sure about that, right at the crown on the casing you can see a little bit of copper at the crimping area, which actually means the solution could not plate there because it was sealed with a glue or clear sealant.
I know what you are describing, but in THIS case seems to be ok..
i plated two different threads once and realized they should have been connected, now they dont thread.. need a good brass brush to fix that i think, but this looks decent..
the tank was cold when i did this and some are cloudy, i was just doing it as an initial experiment. hopefully they fire.. i will find out eventually..
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lol I thought about making some of these for fun. A 158 gr mold would drop ~146 with silver.
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A while back I got the bright idea of making silver bullets.
The 'plan' was to melt WWII Silver Nickels and Pour into bullet molds.
Then I would gift them to folks who might need to shoot zombies and such.
But didn't have the 'heat' to melt the silver.
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Thanks I knew someone out there had to make the whole thing silver just because it looks cool..🙃
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Back in the day when I carried a wheel gun on duty, I carried .357 Winchester Silvertips on duty. Along with the speed loaders that virtually all of our agents carried we were required to have at least a six loop ammo carrier on our gun belts. Those rounds sure looked sexy on a gun belt. They were good ammo back then and I still load them in my personal .357s.
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Is nickle hard enough to damage a barrel if you fire a plated bullet?
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A while back I got the bright idea of making silver bullets.
The 'plan' was to melt WWII Silver Nickels and Pour into bullet molds.
Then I would gift them to folks who might need to shoot zombies and such.
But didn't have the 'heat' to melt the silver.
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Point of Order. WAREWOLVES, you need silver bullets,for warewolves, just plain ole lead works for zombies, but its gotta be a headshot. (I miss those father-son days gone by.)
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Point of Order. WAREWOLVES, you need silver bullets,for warewolves, just plain ole lead works for zombies, but its gotta be a headshot. (I miss those father-son days gone by.)
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Come to think about it-
I have shot zombies with 9mm ball.
They just laugh and say, your shooting a 9 thrillometer!
Don't you know that's a girlie-man round?
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So a long time ago, I did try them, and they did fire.. Haven’t had time for playing, but at least we know a little dip won’t kill em.
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Come to think about it-
I have shot zombies with 9mm ball.
They just laugh and say, your shooting a 9 thrillometer!
Don't you know that's a girlie-man round?
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How thick is the plating? Did you try to chamber it yet?
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I know NOTHING about plating but do have questions / concerns.
1 are you increasing bullet size so that pressures might increase to an unsafe level?
2. If you plate a loaded cartridge does the plating join the bullet to the case again possibly increasing pressure?
3. Anything in the plating process that could affect either the powder or primer?
Again I know NOTHING about plating so my questions are questions not comments about whether this is a good idea or not. Will admit sounds cool for display pieces. Not sure there is a good reason other than novelty for doing so. I haven't had to face off with a werewolf but then again haven't had to face off a mob of looters either! LOL
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I only had it sitting in the tank for like 4-6 minutes just enough to change the color, it chambered and fired no differently..
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I know NOTHING about plating but do have questions / concerns.
1 are you increasing bullet size so that pressures might increase to an unsafe level?
2. If you plate a loaded cartridge does the plating join the bullet to the case again possibly increasing pressure?
3. Anything in the plating process that could affect either the powder or primer?
Again I know NOTHING about plating so my questions are questions not comments about whether this is a good idea or not. Will admit sounds cool for display pieces. Not sure there is a good reason other than novelty for doing so. I haven't had to face off with a werewolf but then again haven't had to face off a mob of looters either! LOL
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Like i mentioned I didnt have it in ther any longer then necessary other than to change the color, and I waited forever to try them, i think i blew them out of the airweight, not like much will happen with a barrel that short
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I think it is a cool idea, be it for display, in a cartridge belt, or a drop of silver for werewolves ( I do not know if you need pure silver or an alloy ), plus and overall good looking round. Silver case and bullet, black bullet with silver case, silver bullet with black case. There should be a market out there somewhere. Be Safe,
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Werewolf impersonators won't be safe anymore.
Legend has it a nickel-plated slug is what killed Lon Chaney Jr.
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Legend has it a nickel-plated slug is what killed Lon Chaney Jr.
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I like it! You should do some .45 Colts and hand them out like the Lone Ranger!
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Many decades ago (when I was young) I met the Lone Ranger and Silver
He did give out silver bullets at his personal appearances along with signed pictures.
Growing up on the old westerns I can tell you it was a moment to remember
The picture is still on my wall. However the bullet is stashed away in the safe with the other valuables
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Only reason I bought this box, was for the cool factor. All shiny!
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Yeah for a revolver I just thought they looked cooler in the chambers when loaded.
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I just need to find out if they arent duds, due to the chemicals, if not i may have a speciality market eh
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Why wouldn't you just nickel plate the projectile and the case seperately? Then assemble them along with the primer and powder after the nickel process. Then you would be sure they would fire!
As for the chemicals making them dudds I don't know. I do know that I've washed quite a few .223's and .45acp's in full cycles and it wasn't until they were put in the dryer for a bit were they found by my wife.
I always make sure to take them to the club/range with me and I've never had one not fire!
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That's actually pretty good ammo! If you are looking for the cool factor when loaded.. Underwoods 305grain Long Lead Flat Nose pills are coated in a red Hi-Tek coating. Even though their site shows a brass cased and lead un-coated bullet on their site now.
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Many decades ago (when I was young) I met the Lone Ranger and Silver
He did give out silver bullets at his personal appearances along with signed pictures.
Growing up on the old westerns I can tell you it was a moment to remember
The picture is still on my wall. However the bullet is stashed away in the safe with the other valuables
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Wasn't Clayton Moore the original Lone Ranger. He was the one I watched. Never heard of J. Hart.
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