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I was looking at ammo online and came across Wolf Gold 357 158gr SJHP @1607 FPS and 905 ME. Is this even possible? I tried to find out from Wolfs website what there test barrel was but there is nothing.
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03-24-2009, 11:33 PM
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I was looking at ammo online and came across Wolf Gold 357 158gr SJHP @1607 FPS and 905 ME. Is this even possible? I tried to find out from Wolfs website what there test barrel was but there is nothing.
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03-25-2009, 09:18 AM
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I'd be extremely surprised to find out the barrel was under 6".
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Based on my handloading, I'd bet a quarter the barrel was at least 6", more likely 8", perhaps a test barrel rather than an actual revolver.
In a real 4" revolver, the speed would be much less.
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I had a box or two of this ammo. Don't know about 1607 fps, but in my 4" GP100 it clocked 1218 fps with SD 49 and ES 128. ES was a bit overboard and primers looked like VW Bug after collision with a freight train. I did not buy any more of it.
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That 1607 might have come from a 16+ inch Contender barrel or something, but not any pistol I've seen.
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If a manufacturer doesn't tell you what the test barrel is, the info is useless.
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Your 1200 fps results are comparible to Federal and WW ammo from back in the 70s. I would not care to use that ammo in a valued classic Smith but my wife's M19-2 snub has surely shot a bunch of it with no ill effects.
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I had a box or two of this ammo. Don't know about 1607 fps, but in my 4" GP100 it clocked 1218 fps with SD 49 and ES 128. ES was a bit overboard and primers looked like VW Bug after collision with a freight train. I did not buy any more of it.
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Dan,
1200 fps from a 4-incher is also below todays Remington, Speer and Federal factory loads not to mention handloads. I just don't really care for ammo with ES over 100.
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I agree with you guys without a test barrel length the data is useless.
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Dan,
1200 fps from a 4-incher is also below todays Remington, Speer and Federal factory loads not to mention handloads. I just don't really care for ammo with ES over 100.
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Those ES don't get it for paper target work but considering the availability of ammo and the necessity for self defense, I can live with it as long as it feeds and functions every time. I doubt the aggressor will notice.
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A 158gr at 1600fps? Maybe out of a rifle.
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A 158gr at 1600fps? Maybe out of a rifle.
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I have a hunch that a 1600 fps. 158 gr. .357 is possible from a 6" revolver, but it would take some doing. I'm thinking a fast gun, a hardcast lead gas checked bullet, and the right super hot load will get you there. I think it might even be possible with a jacketed bullet. I can get 1650+ fps. from my 5" 629 with hot loaded 165 gr. Sierra JHPs. I don't think it's a particularly fast gun either. Of course .44 magnum is a different caliber, so I might be wrong.
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Flop, I agree with you, it should be possible. I've never gotten past 1400 fps with a 4-incher. But Buffalo Bore (who else ) has a 158 gr. JHP load on their web site - 19C. They clocked it at 1485 fps from a 4-incher and whooping 2153 fps from 18.5" Marlin. I am thinking this load should be close to 1600 in a 6-incher. Rumor mill has it that BB uses Lil'gun in this load.
Dan, agree 100%.
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Wolf doesn't have a "Contact us" feature on their homepage. Try contacting the good folks at Prvi in Serbia for details, I believe that they are in fact the ones loading all the Wolf "Gold" ammo. Their rifle and handgun ammo sold under their own name is pretty good stuff, albeit with a reputation for running hot.
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