Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Ammo

Notices

Ammo All Ammo Discussions Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-02-2023, 03:18 PM
mosquito mosquito is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 267
Likes: 50
Liked 132 Times in 59 Posts
Default Anyone know when this “S&W” .45 ACP ammo was produced”?

I have a few boxes of this ammo and was looking around for info on it, (on the web) and came up empty. Anyone know anything about it?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2951.jpg (79.0 KB, 119 views)

Last edited by mosquito; 09-02-2023 at 03:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-02-2023, 04:59 PM
Skeet 028 Skeet 028 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 6,197
Likes: 6,473
Liked 7,106 Times in 3,014 Posts
Default

70s to 80s look at the address if it has S&W-F or Fiocchi early 70s. They were in business together for a short time after they bought out Alcan
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 09-02-2023, 05:10 PM
HKSmith HKSmith is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 735
Likes: 1,324
Liked 715 Times in 274 Posts
Default

Your S&W .45 ACP ammo is from the late 1970's - early 1980's. S&W and Fiocchi bought out Alcan (Alton, IL) and started producing ammo under the S&W-Fiocchi brand in 1972. I bought 2 boxes of 9 mm ammo around 1975 that were headstamped "S&W-F". Fiocchi left or was bought out and S&W produced ammo under their own name after that and moved the plant to Rock Creek, OH. They stopped ammo production around 1980-1982 and I think .45 ACP was a late addition to their lineup. They also manufactured and sold primers. I don't think they manufactured their own brass, but did sell component brass with the S&W head stamp. I have 4 boxes of it that I got on eBay when you could still sell anything on eBay. It's stamped "S&W .38 SPL +P" and is nickel plated.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 09-02-2023, 07:22 PM
PhilT PhilT is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 83
Likes: 425
Liked 45 Times in 30 Posts
Default

Have nickel .38 Spec and .357 in same boxes - bought in 1976
correction: .38 Spec +P and no "F" on headstamp
__________________
SWCA 3749 SWHF 867

Last edited by PhilT; 09-02-2023 at 07:53 PM. Reason: clarification
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 09-03-2023, 04:59 PM
mosquito mosquito is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 267
Likes: 50
Liked 132 Times in 59 Posts
Default

Does this stuff have any value outside of regular ammo prices?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-03-2023, 05:37 PM
Greyman50's Avatar
Greyman50 Greyman50 is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,781
Likes: 13,180
Liked 6,199 Times in 2,444 Posts
Default

Have a partial box of 9 mm S&W brass somewhere….
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-03-2023, 05:44 PM
ken158 ken158 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: VA
Posts: 4,679
Likes: 1,450
Liked 4,520 Times in 1,936 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
Does this stuff have any value outside of regular ammo prices?
People collect everything but unlikely there will be a rush to buy the ammo but you might find a market for a few empty boxes. I see it a gun shows often. As a previous dealer, I was “forced” to purchase cases of S&W ammo to get my allocation of handguns from my distributors.
__________________
S&W factory revolver armorer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 09-03-2023, 05:49 PM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas & San Antonio
Posts: 33,703
Likes: 244
Liked 29,216 Times in 14,135 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
Does this stuff have any value outside of regular ammo prices?
It is fairly common in all calibers loaded. I wouldn't attribute much if any premium value over new ammunition prices. That might be different 50 years from now. I have quite a few 50 round boxes of S&W .38 Special and .357 ammunition, also several bricks of .22 LR. I would have to look, but I believe all had nickeled cases. I sort of remember that some rifle ammunition came in 10 round packs but I don't have any of it. I think there may also have been shotshells, have none of those either.

Last edited by DWalt; 09-03-2023 at 06:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-04-2023, 02:56 PM
chief38's Avatar
chief38 chief38 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 17,847
Likes: 7,864
Liked 25,805 Times in 8,720 Posts
Default

Fiocchi made S&W ammo in the 1970's.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-04-2023, 06:16 PM
rockquarry rockquarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,610
Likes: 4
Liked 8,963 Times in 4,155 Posts
Default

You'd see a lot of that stuff in the '70s, maybe '80s. They sold popular rifle ammo too, like .270 and .30-06.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-04-2023, 07:00 PM
Model19man Model19man is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 1,478
Likes: 666
Liked 1,586 Times in 674 Posts
Default

I used to see it regularly in the 1980's. I think if it were mine I would shoot it and use the brass. As said above it's not that special and won't command a premium over new stuff.
__________________
S&WHF #946
S&WCA #3824
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 09-04-2023, 09:08 PM
mosquito mosquito is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 267
Likes: 50
Liked 132 Times in 59 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chief38 View Post
Fiocchi made S&W ammo in the 1970's.
Hi Bob, lol……
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-04-2023, 09:10 PM
mosquito mosquito is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 267
Likes: 50
Liked 132 Times in 59 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Model19man View Post
I used to see it regularly in the 1980's. I think if it were mine I would shoot it and use the brass. As said above it's not that special and won't command a premium over new stuff.
I agree…….it’s just that I have no desire to shoot 185gr. .45 ACP semi-wadcutters, in a semi-auto.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-05-2023, 09:46 AM
Model19man Model19man is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 1,478
Likes: 666
Liked 1,586 Times in 674 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito View Post
I agree…….it’s just that I have no desire to shoot 185gr. .45 ACP semi-wadcutters, in a semi-auto.
If it's a Kimber 1911 like mine it won't care. Mine will feed anything. So long as it meets SAAMI specs.
__________________
S&WHF #946
S&WCA #3824
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-06-2023, 12:18 PM
desi2358 desi2358 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,129
Likes: 36,514
Liked 937 Times in 498 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWalt View Post
It is fairly common in all calibers loaded. I wouldn't attribute much if any premium value over new ammunition prices. That might be different 50 years from now. I have quite a few 50 round boxes of S&W .38 Special and .357 ammunition, also several bricks of .22 LR. I would have to look, but I believe all had nickeled cases. I sort of remember that some rifle ammunition came in 10 round packs but I don't have any of it. I think there may also have been shotshells, have none of those either.
I have had a few of those 10 round rifle ammo packs. Very flimsy plastic packages but the ammo was good. Got an assortment from a local shop dirt cheap years ago, 30-30, 270, 30-06 and 308. They had had it for a while and just wanted to clear it out. Shot up most of it, kept a box or two of each which I later traded to another cartridge collector who was trying to do a grouping of S&W ammo. I agree, no significant premium to most people. Not old or rare enough for most and finding someone who is specifically collecting S&W ammo is a long shot. I would probably keep one for my general ammo collection and shoot the rest,
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much 629-2 3' .44 was produced? MikeOtt S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 5 12-31-2021 07:24 PM
How many P&R 629's where produced? tomthbomb S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 7 12-22-2019 03:58 PM
356 TSW ammo being produced, again. s537 Ammo 21 10-06-2017 11:05 PM
Ammo Produced by S&W chuckusaret Ammo 38 09-05-2013 08:16 PM
Why are no S&W 32.20's being produced now? peyton S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 43 04-07-2010 10:56 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:33 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)