Dirty Ammo

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Has CCI changed powder for their Blazer 9mm, brass case ammo?
I picked up several boxes to break-in a new gun, it was very dirty. Blazer was never the cleanest but was much dirtier then I remembered fron a couple of years ago. And the oily film oozed from the gun.
 
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Blazer is the dirtiest domestic ammunition I ever used…won’t buy it anymore. The only dirtier stuff I’ve used was some Norinco years ago…never again.
 
Doesn't bother me. I have to clean my gun anyway after I get it home. It doesn't take much to wipe and clean all that stuff of for it to be an issue for me either way. The only ammo I refuse to buy is corrosive ammo, but dirty hangun range ammo, I couldn't care any less.
 
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As good as it performs, I run into the same oily mess when I load and shoot with 700X propellent.
 
Well Armed said:
Doesn't bother me. I have to clean my gun anyway after I get it home. It doesn't take much to wipe and clean all that stuff of for it to be an issue for me either way. The only ammo I refuse to buy is corrosive ammo, but dirty hangun range ammo, I couldn't care any less.
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Never in my life have I had any concerns about either dirty ammunition or corrosive military ammunition. Having fired tons of the latter, the only thing I have ever needed to do was just flush everything with hot water first after shooting it, especially the bore. The corrosive chloride-containing priming residue is highly soluble in water. Afterward, just clean normally. The old USGI bore cleaner was basically an emulsion of oil and water, and that was why it was effective in cleaning guns back in the time of corrosive primers. Water is also the best solvent for cleaning black powder gun bores.
 
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You did buy cheap ammo….

You haven’t seen dirty until you shoot some of my old cast bullet reloads. The lube was a mixture of bacon grease and bees wax. Those shot good, smelled good; but boy, that load was dirty.

I clean all my handguns after I shoot them. I usually just scrub them with a toothbrush and hose them out with starting fluid.
 
DWalt said:
Never in my life have I had any concerns about either dirty ammunition or corrosive military ammunition. Having fired tons of the latter, the only thing I have ever needed to do was just flush everything with hot water first after shooting it, especially the bore. The corrosive chloride-containing priming residue is highly soluble in water. Afterward, just clean normally. The old USGI bore cleaner was basically an emulsion of oil and water, and that was why it was effective in cleaning guns back in the time of corrosive primers. Water is also the best solvent for cleaning black powder gun bores.
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"Dirty ammo" is one of the new fads, like polishing brass until it is spotlessly shinier than new brass; maybe it's even sterile. It takes the same effort to clean a "very" dirty gun as it does to clean a "slightly" dirty gun.

I would think accuracy would be an important factor with ammo but it has become very secondary to dirtiness and is seldom mentioned.
 
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Dang, I was thinking that I would see ammo with a pin-up girl on it. My bad.
 
You guys don't even have a hint of what dirty is. Try shooting a load with H110 that only produces 8-11,000 psi and you'll come to understand the deep depths of DIRTY. BTW, that is a standard load for 410 Target Shot Shells. The drill is shoot 4 boxes and spend about 40 minutes scrubbing and patching the barrels.
 
My current ammo of choice is either CCI or Federal. That said, I clearly remember the Federal promo 12 gauge #8 target shells back about 30+ years ago to be the dirtiest, smokiest and filthiest ammo I have ever shot! The have since rectified that but I rarely shoot Blazer ammo. Some of my friends shoot Blazer 9mm and 380 and I have not noticed that it is substantially dirtier than other ammo. Who knows, they might have cheaped out - seems to be the way these days.

I wonder of the upcoming transfer to the new owners has anything to do with it or you just got a bad batch. You could call the company and see what they have to say.
 
IAM Rand said:
Dang, I was thinking that I would see ammo with a pin-up girl on it. My bad.
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Some of my surplus ammo came with a calendar with Gypsy Rose Lee...1986 Calendar. The feather dancing fan covered it all up...thankfully. BUT there's a few guys here on the board that probably remember her at 19?...I'm almost ashamed of myself.
 
Warren Sear said:
There is absolutely nothing to fear from shooting corrosive ammo; just clean the gun when you are done shooting.
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Cleaning afterwards will only help if its the right kind of cleaning for corrosive ammo. Regular Hoppes won't do it. You need do remove the salts that result from the corrosive primer firing and the only thing that does that effectively is water or even better, soapy water (since soap is a surfactant). Corrosive salts cannot be neutralized by anything, they can only be dissolved and floated away which is what the water does best. Don't waste time/money using Windex since that's mostly water, which is the only thing that's going to dissolve the salts anyway.

Remember to oil everything afterwards!
 
It's possible that the powder has been changed. I have removed the bullets from a lot of.22LR and .22 short rounds to get a look at the powder. Sometimes different lots of exactly the same ammo will have different powder. May be flake or very fine grained ball powder. I assume the ammo manufacturers buy huge lots of powder of proper burn rate and load production lots of ammo to desired ballistics.
 
ruger 22 said:
Does anyone still sell Corrosive Ammo????
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Small lots of old surplus military ammo do show up from time to time. In the last few years I have seen stuff out of Ethiopia as well as some old Eastern block ammo that was corrosive. And, as another poster mentioned, old ammo sometimes appears on the market as people die or sell off stuff from old stashes.
 
I had a ton of Yugo corrosive 7.62x39 maybe 20 years ago. I think it was like $80/1000rds. Full power, surefire but deposited "red dust" outside the gas system. I'm sure there is still some around. Joe
 
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