We have had some interesting things happen in the recent KS legislative session. The state will have complete control of all gun laws, (cities may prohibit carry in city buildings.) Open carry will be allowed statewide. Those persons who paid close to $ 400 for a concealed carry permit, with background check, 8 hour safety class with range may be miffed when anyone can strap on a gun and open carry it. Carrying a large knife in a scabbard on one's belt will now be allowed. Automatic knives were made legal last year. As the president of the KS State Rifle Assn, Patricia Stoneking, told me, they are working toward full constitutional carry.

I doubt that you will see many people carrying openly. It's been the law in Michigan for years and I seldom see it. Most simply choose to carry concealed.

Yeah. Same here in Cheeseland. In fact you will get hassled in the big cities
for open carry even though it's totally legal (and was before we got concealed).

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Same in Ohio. Most people just don't want to take the chance of getting hassled.

I only open carry at home while doing yard work or inside.

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Hassling can get very expensive.

Congratulations to you and all people from Kansas.
I hope we hear that you can carry concealed without a permit pretty soon.
Good news for all of you.

Wingmaster

Out of sight out of mind. We have open carry and rarely do I see anyone carrying openly. It is good though if carrying concealed and the wind opens your jacket or you shirt rides up and exposes your firearm. Worked great for me two times I forgot my wallet at home, just pulled the shirt and exposed my firearm, it didn't even raise a eyebrow around here. Why give the anti's anything to whine about or get the soccer mom going into a rant even if it is legal.

Back to original post glad to see laws changing for the good.

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This news is good!

Since I moved to Kansas last year, I've been glad that the gun laws hear are so much better than in Illinois where I came from.

Glad to see they are getting even better! I really like KS so far!

Va has open carry also. I do open carry once in a while. I'm not much a fan of causing concern. I see it like this: people on the world don't know me personally and have no idea of my demeanor. Carrying a firearm openly is best done with a smile and happy disposition. You're making a statement about gun ownership when you open carry. Make it a good one.

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The only good thing about open carry is if you are concealed carrying and accidentally do somehow expose your firearm, but concealed carry is all I do except when I go to the range or out in my fenced in back yard!

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I've NEVER seen anyone open carry in Michigan, even though it's legal.

Will you still have to pay the same $400 for background check and class to get your permit to carry concealed? If so I would not be miffed. I prefer concealed carry to open carry and even if they passed open carry here in Texas I personally would not open carry.

well i'll be...I am new here, new to concealed carry in general as well. I guess I always assumed you could OC in texas. I don't live there, just assumed it. Anyways, I have never seen an open carry in VA.

Not to nit-pick but it doesn't cost $400 to get a conceal carry permit in Kansas. $200-$250 depending on how much your class is.

If you know what the open carry laws were in the state of Kansas before this legislation you'd understand how welcoming this is. It was such a patchwork of laws with cities and counties all able to regulate open carry however they wanted.

Also if I'm not mistaken, a person can now carry a loaded handgun in their vehicle whereas before you could not, unless you were a CC permit holder.

The only time I open carry here in Ohio is at the range and maybe when hiking. I usually carry concealed around the house and yard. In the yard so I don't freek out my neighbors. I find carrying concealed all the time, even at home just good practice.

Why be miffed? It's not the same. And my Kansas CHL is accepted in all but 12 states, and except for hiking or camping I never OC. No sense in scaring the sheep.......
BTW, it cost me $220 total for my CHL.

I apologize about the cost of a concealed carry permit. I do not have one, so I was guessing. I have a LEOSA permit, and I am required to carry concealed. I also found out that the law permitting LEOSA carrying retired officers to carry where active officers carry did not make it through the senate before the close of the legislative session. We can hope it passes next session, sorry for the misinformation.

Thanks for the info. I occasionally work in Kansas and have my Oklahoma CCW. We passed the open carry option here just to cover the inadvertent exposure issue.

Good to hear the State of Kansas is now free from post civil war reconstruction.

(That CC fee ain't about carrying a firearm, it's a privilege tax.)




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I am glad that Congress had passed HR 218 in 2004 and the "improvements" in 2010,2013. It is frustrating that the law is misinterpreted so often in many jurisdictions. I guess I never really thought there was a need for a "law" to let a LEO cross state line in or out of uniform, How could someone believe/suggest a sworn officer is no longer a LEO when he crosses a line on a map!??? Be Safe,

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Good for Kansas! I have to have a Handgun License to open carry in Oklahoma, but we're working on it.

I open carry at work, so I'm perfectly comfortable carrying openly. To tell the truth, most sheeple don't notice.

When we went to open carry being legal, police and dispatchers were trained on the changed law, and it's been a non-issue.

Sent from my little slice of Heaven.

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I've been carrying concealed since shortly after 9/11/2001 when I took the then-required class of 8 hours including live fire. We are now a shall issue state since late 2010 and open carry is legal. I conceal for several reasons: 1. gun haters WILL call 911 and report 'man with a gun' and some police jurisdictions will hassle you; 2. I'd rather not have BGs know I'm carrying; 3. I want to avoid any attempt to grab my gun.

I trained at Thunder Ranch and believe Clint Smith when he says don't jump in where you, your family and your dog are not at risk.

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Texas has not had genuinely open carry of handguns for at least a century and a half. Most of these gun laws were originally passed by Reconstruction Northerners (in the South, of course) and/or racists/elitists (everywhere). I say everywhere because while it is eminently clear historically that many gun laws were aimed directly at newly freed slaves and the black population generally the Sullivan law, in New York City, was aimed at Irish people directly. You can find other examples of that if you want to do the homework.

Open carry of handguns in Texas existed, and still exists, subject to certain exceptions in the law that prohibits open carry, or the carrying of handguns in general. Today, of course, the possession of a CHL allows you to carry a concealed handgun, as does the extension of the home is your castle concept to all sorts of motor vehicles. At home/on your own property, you can carry open or concealed. The concealed part was extended to motor vehicles and includes, for instance, the walk from the home to the car (which could be quite a distance sometimes).

Open carry of handguns in Texas is banned except under certain circumstances and all of those circumstances are defenses to prosecution so you can still get arrested and then have to defend yourself. I don't recommend it.

***GRJ***

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Congrats to Kansas. But even with that, I still don't recommend it.

Sir,

Nice to see you've "come around" on this particular topic and embraced the new law.

Until you can assure me I won't have a loaded handgun pointed directly at me for doing something completely legal, i'll keep it concealed.

Video of Grand Rapids open carry incident that sparked federal lawsuit released - Bearing Arms

Not in Georgia under our new law. Now, concealed or open, an LEO CANNOT stop/question/hassel you in ANY way for carrying unless you have done someting else that would have drawn their attention without a gun being involved.

The law even prohibits an LEO from so much as asking if you have a permit unless you do something else as well that would have gotten you otherwise questioned.

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