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In Wisconsin, weather is a factor that dictates frequent changes of clothing. Clothing often dictates type and size of firearm.
Someone else said the nature of the situation can influence what to carry, and someone else poo-poo'd that. Well, I have news for the poo-poo'ers. If they day starts with a meeting in an air conditioned building in downtown Milwaukee and then proceeds to some suburbs on the north side, a change of clothes may be called for, and I would definitely change - and even add - guns.
This time of year in Wisconsin it can be low 40's F in the morning, 60 to high 70s at noon (80s, last year), and drop rapidly into the 40s again as evening arrives. So, I have jackets, sweaters and even pants to suit in my car, and guns that suit the clothes.
The further north one travels in WI, the greater the possibilities become due to weather and even circumstances.
I am mostly retired, now, but previously worked with people who ranged from avidly pro-firearms to rabidly against. I packed accordingly.
When I carry a revolver as primary, it is one of these, in approximately this order of preference:
S&W 386NG
S&W 520 of 2005
Colt Python
Colt King Cobra
Colt Police Positive
Colt Detective Special
S&W 29 - yes, I do. Just need the right holster and ammo. Which I have.
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S&W 642 - first choice.
S&W 37 w/ Lasermax grips.
Colt Detective Special.
A revolver is my primary about 30% of the time. Rotating gives me plenty of motivation to practice at the range.
Here are some of them:
Colt PP left 30.jpgGP-100 and King Cobra profile 30.jpg
32xxx 30.jpgDetective Special L.jpg
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2.5 inch 315 NightGuard with Ahrends. My favorite K frame.
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The Ahrends Cocobolo finger groove grips look awesome on the Night Guards. I ordered a pair today for one of my NGs.
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revolver carry only. Used to be my 66-1, 2.5" but now it is my 60-10, 3". I shoot the 60 better and it seems to carry a little easier as well.
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Nice grips on the 3" 60. Looks awesome.
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Your 386NG seems to have a titanium cylinder? Is it a 386PD, or did you install a titanium cylinder?
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Unfortunately, yesterday I had to send my 386NG back to S&W because the timing is off. I picked it up LNIB a few weeks back and it has quickly become my primary.
Not sure how long it will take for S&W to return it, but I bought another 386NG last week that showed up this afternoon. So I had to decide what to carry until the new NG arrived and I could test fire it.
Since the holster for my NG was already on my shorts, I decided to grab my 686 Performance Center 2.5" (same dimensions as my NG).
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The 686 PC is quite a load to carry for an extended period. It is totally doable, but not ideal. It's about 38ozs loaded!
Fortunately my new NG arrived mid-day and functioned perfectly with the 70 rounds I fired. Sights were dead on as well. Slapped it right in the holster and took a load off
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I installed the titanium cylinder on the 386NG. It has had no effect on being able to control the gun, so I feel the weight reduction was worth it. I also sent the rear sight to Cylinder & Slide for tritium tubes. Also worth it.
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HarrishMasher sorry just now answering you about the 649. Cylinder & Slide did the following modifications;
The dove tailed gold bead post front sight
Opened up the sight channel
Did a light carry melt treatment on the sharp edges
Smoothed up the action
Smoothed and radius-ed the trigger
Bead blast
and later a friend who is a local Smith thinned the front of the trigger guard for me.
Very, very pleased with how it turned out and how it performs.
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I carry a revolver about 90 percent of the time. And, most of the time an LCR followed by a Model 60. I like the wheel guns in a good Galco ankle rig.
Otherwise, it's a LC9 in a Hide-It IWB I recently picked up from a gentleman on another forum.
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Why thank you. I found that old fellow at an estate auction several months ago. Told myself I wouldn't go over $500...but I lied. The other guy stopped at $500, I went to $520. It was in it's "second original box"; a very, very old Dutch Masters cigar box and wrapped in oil cloth. It had what looked like ancient cosmoline under the side plate, I think it had been kept far more than used. Is my baby.
That is a very handsome snubby you have yourself. Love round butt K frames of any barrel length.
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S&W revolver I carry most, easy, a 642.
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Revolver 100% of the time. Generally, my 340PD. Otherwise, my M&P340.
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"rotating" guns; I'm with you, HarrishMasher.
HarrishMasher, I'm with you.
Posted by clevolver:
"Why would you rotate your carry gun? I'd want to carry the same thing always, the same way always, so when it comes time to use it, I don't have to think about what I'm doing or what day it is."
HarrishMasher:
"Maybe rotate is not the right word. I have four J Frames. All basically the same, feel the same, handle the same, shoot the same ammo. I like to carry all of them, so I rotate them.
Same with my K Frames.
Basically you will find me carrying a J Frame or a K frame. Not a huge difference.
I also shoot a couple of times a week. And train with some shooting buddies once a month or once every two months. They are ex military and we train hard with rifles and handguns. I am very intimate with any gun I carry and would be 100% comfortable using whatever I am carrying in any situation."
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My military and professional training was to be able to effectively use anything I picked up or that was handed to me. While it was obvious that guns differ from each other, we were expected to be able to use them without preamble. No whining. The only gun I ever choked on was a bizarre Star chambered in 9mm Largo. Looked like a Transformer missing some parts.
I choose guns for reasons stated in my previous post, dictated often by weather as well as circumstances. When carrying for duty, I carried what was issued.
As for practice:
I shoot Cowboy, IDPA. IPSC, three-gun and subgun. In any given week I might shoot a Colt SAA, one with 5" barrel, the other with 7.5" barrel. Also my double-barrel shotgun or 1897 Winchester, Henry .44 Big Boy, Marlin lever-action in .45 Colt and a .38 derringer. Sometimes I'll take my Vaquero or LeMat, and will shoot my 1851 and 1860 cap-and-ball revolvers just for fun. And that's just Cowboy.
Specifically for CCW I may shoot any of the revolvers I mentioned along with a selection of 1911s by Sig, Colt and S&W. My primary carry semi-auto is my S&W M&P357, which I fire about 120 rounds through a month.
Then there is my Springfield M1A, and WWII Thompson.
Sooo, among my own guns, in any month I'll shoot .38 Special; .38 Special +P, .357 Magnum in barrel lengths from 2.5" to 6"; 357-Sig 229; 9mm from a Sig 228 or 226 Tactical, S&W M&P9mm Pro, and just for the halllumph of it my Vector CP1; .44 Magnums in loads ranging from "Mosquito Killer" to 300-grain Hammerhead bear killers in my Mountain Gun and Lew Horton 29; .45-Colt from the Colt SAAs and my S&W 25-5s and 25 Mountain gun; .45ACP from anything ranging from a Sig 220 through the 1911s I mentioned with "Commander" and 5" barrels, or my OM.
AND a virtual hailstorm of .22LR.
When our Charming Children come to visit, there's no telling what they'll bring, but Glocks prevail in .40S&W, 9mm and .45ACP. One son is a "gun snob" and will bring his Wilson, sniffing at my "stock" 1911s.
One of our favorite contests is something like musical chairs. We'll put a variety of guns on the table and start walking by, each of us taking turns calling "STOP!" At which point each of us has to pick up the gun in front of us, load it and make more hits more accurately in less time than the others. They know all my cheating tricks, so I rarely win any more.
I know all the benefits of sticking to one gun and caliber. I have to say, though, that I never bought the saying "Beware the man with one gun. He probably knows how to use it." Certainly there are many for whom that can be said. I can only say that the author of that has never been to an IDPA match. Or been standing on the bank of the Jordan River and being handed a Galil. Heh.
We should be proficient with any gun we carry. Though my wife has had the "paranoia" talk with me since retiring, I still feel I should be able to proficiently shoot any gun I pick up.
And I feel I have to keep up with our sons. Even if I can't cheat.
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Well, I carry my duty weapon on/off duty just about all the time...a Glock 21 in a TT Gunleather (Tim Thurner) rig:
When I'm out hunting/camping/hiking the back country, one of these gets the nod:
625-7 Mountain Gun in .45 Colt
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Gentlemen,
My 90% carry gun is a Kimber Commander size Stainless Pro Carry loaded with Ranger 230 grain HP ammo. With the alloy frame it is easy on the back and has always been a very reliable and accurate gun. It has seen alot of miles. My other favorite for any other times is a 442-2 loaded with Speer 135 +P Gold Dots. That gun sees a fair amount of range time also with 158 grain lead reloads and is also very accurate. Both guns have spare ammo when carried.
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It's typically one of these three:
The 4" Model 15
Model 10-6
Model 27
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I carry a revolver about 98% of the time, occasionally I will carry a 1911, (Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander).
Almost invariably, I carry OWB, with a very rare pocket carry. (I still haven't found a pocket holster I really like)
My revolvers:
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& when I'm tramping the woods, I open carry a Model 357NG (hip), or a Kimber Eclipse 10mm, (chest rig)
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This is my primary carry and once in a while I carry a 642 PC Talo.
If I need to down size I have a S&W .380 semi auto, but that is only when I can not carry my j-frame.
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As I approach my 7th decade of life I have learned to respect and appreciate the weight of handguns. As a Deputy Sheriff decades ago I carried a Colt Commander primary, and a bobbed hammer Model 60 2" as a backup. Wore this setup for years.
When hired by the State for the last 10 years of duty I was issued a Glock 23, and was subject to dismissal with cause if caught carrying anything else. Still hate Glocks, just can't abide them.
Today I carry a Kahr CW-9 90% of the time, and a Smith640Pro on occasion. Practice with both regularly shoot the Kahr better! This is the 2nd Kahr CW-9 I've owned and both have functioned flawlessly for 100s if not thousands of rounds. Gave the first one to my niece who needed a SD weapon that was simple to carry and to shoot.
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About 80% of the time I carry a semiauto...several that I like.
The 20% for revolvers is usually a 3" model 65.
Regardless I carry almost exclusively IWB
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If the question is which S&W revolver we carry most, why do we need to hear about Glocks and such? Seems like peeing on our campfire to me. Just sayin.
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If the question is which S&W revolver we carry most, why do we need to hear about Glocks and such? Seems like peeing on our campfire to me. Just sayin.
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It puts into context just how much that S&W is actually carried...if you strap it on once a year for an hour it could still be the S&W you carry the most. That is why...CONTEXT is everything.
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It puts into context just how much that S&W is actually carried...if you strap it on once a year for an hour it could still be the S&W you carry the most. That is why...CONTEXT is everything.
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I can let it pass, just wondered, but will make my closing comment that if one doesn't really carry revolvers, seems like they wouldn't (shouldn't?) relate to the question and even post. How much they carry something other than a revolver isn't relevant, and they needn't boast about it.
I guess it turns out that it is not a simple question, if everyone infers that the answer has to have a context, especially what they consider as "carry".
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If I am carrying a revolver off duty, it will more likely be my : Model 65 three inch. Possibly the very best CCW revolver they ever made.
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I rarely carry, but when I do it's a 637 airweight in a pocket or owb hip holster. I may pick up my I fram 32S/W long ot even a 63 /w or Charterarms snubby. Just depends on how I feel, but as I said. it would be rare to carry being a nice community here in E. Kentucky. Just don't bet that that I'm not carrying.
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637 or 2.5" 66-2. I have carried my 4" 29, but it is not a common choice for me.
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My "always carry" is a 642 with Hornady Extreme Defense cartridges. Keep it in my pocket in a home made leather holster with a flap so the "pistol shape" does not print. It carries so well, sometimes I forget it's there.
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I never heard of a "Carry Rotation" in my early years of carrying but noted one post here where the carry guns platforms could not be more different.
It was drilled into us, in 1968, to carry the same gun the same way always. Before I would carry my Colt Cobra it would go to the range for 50 rounds so I'd get comfortable w/the differences between the Smith & the Colt.
Fine motor skills deteriorate during a life threatening emergency and I don't want to be fumbling around trying to recall what I'm carrying.
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Magnaportssk, I don't think some members noticed your post. Your combination is right on target...Most do not know this combination is available in a working form. Right between the 38 and 357 and accurate. I like the 147 grain xtp with proper loading. I think it should only be used in a 357 chambered gun, obviously.
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If the question is which S&W revolver we carry most, why do we need to hear about Glocks and such? Seems like peeing on our campfire to me. Just sayin.
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Good luck trying to keep an internet forum completely on topic.
If you figure out how to do it let me know.
I might hire you to put together a household rule book for our four cats and then train them to follow it.
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- I mostly carry a revolver these days.
- I mostly carry a Smith 36 "no-dash".
- I used to rotate carry guns, but having mostly worked in CPZs since 2011, it's more convenient for me to just carry the Chief's Special in a pocket holster, since it's so much easier to disarm and arm.
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Magnaportssk, I don't think some members noticed your post. Your combination is right on target...Most do not know this combination is available in a working form. Right between the 38 and 357 and accurate. I like the 147 grain xtp with proper loading. I think it should only be used in a 357 chambered gun, obviously.
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Would the greatest distinction be the moonclip reloads. It isn't really known as a carry caliber, is it?
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Good luck trying to keep an internet forum completely on topic.
If you figure out how to do it let me know.
I might hire you to put together a household rule book for our four cats and then train them to follow it.
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Not to mention the production date range, here we have a boundary that we are discussing revolvers, period.
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I always carry two revolvers. A model 49 and a 442. If I could find another model 49 I could afford I would ditch the 442.
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When I carry a revolver, which is not too often these days, I carry this Model 58 in its Lobo Gun Leather Combat Classic holster.
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Edit: Never mind...saw your thread in the 61-80 forum!
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If the question is which S&W revolver we carry most, why do we need to hear about Glocks and such? Seems like peeing on our campfire to me. Just sayin.
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First part of the question is what percent of the time do you carry a revolver vs. a semi-auto?
Next, when you carry a revolver, which one do you carry most?
Do you have a carry rotation? What guns are in the rotation?
Do you carry IWB, OWB, Pocket, or some other way?
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09-21-2014, 04:29 PM
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I don't have a carry rotation per se, but when I can carry, it's a 2" S&W model 64-4 (floating hand, radius stud package) with a factory bobbed DOA hammer and Crimson Trace grips. It sits fairly well AIWB in a Side Guard holster, though I'm really considering upgrading to a Bobby Mac's.
It's not exactly true, but I still wouldn't argue with folks who claim, "K-frame snubbies carry like a J-frame and shoot like a full-size revolver." It points like my index finger, and I find that with appendix carry weight and, to some extent, girth are less of an issue. In fact, I haven't tried it, but I have a feeling even an L-frame might be tolerable. Not that I'd need to, I feel perfectly comfortable with 6 rounds of Gold Dot +Ps. Full disclosure: I have on occasion (twice) carried a no-lock 642 in an off-side pocket for a total of 11 rounds. I felt very well armed indeed.
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09-21-2014, 05:01 PM
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Ditto Waywatcher. You use yours better than I use mine.
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09-21-2014, 05:13 PM
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09-22-2014, 08:25 AM
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My 337 hands down.
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09-22-2014, 02:34 PM
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340PD is what I carry most lately. I have a 9mm Shield that occasionally makes its way into the lineup, and a LCP when size really matters
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09-23-2014, 05:50 AM
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Beautiful firearm you have there...what stocks are those?
Edit: Never mind...saw your thread in the 61-80 forum!
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Thanks, amigo!
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09-23-2014, 08:07 AM
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340PD with .38 Super Silvertips (TK Custom). Pocket, holster or console of vehicle. 100 percent of the time.
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Post some pics of your TK Custom!
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09-23-2014, 04:01 PM
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My favorite carry gun is a M638-2. I've lost weight recently, so all my pants are kinda baggy. Lots of room for front pocket carry. My M638 rides there as naturally as a hippie chick on the back of a Harley.
I'm reminded of that TV commerical: The Most Interesting Man in the World.
"I don't always carry concealed, but when I do it's a Smith & Wesson revolver." "Stay well armed my friend."
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at work its my G17 or 41, and a ruger LCP in a galco horsehide pocket holster. everywhere else, 686+-3, IWB Milt Sparks VMII, 1 speed strip on the belt, speed loader in a cargo pocket strong side, 442 in a galco horsehide front pocket with another speed strip offhand side. i practice with many different guns and am not worried about double action vs. striker fired. pull the trigger to the rear, gun goes bang. i also do a 1911 PD Gunsite sometimes. i still try to manipulate the safety on any gun i carry... right thumb has a mind of its own.
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