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I have heard before that old men have white hair because of all the wisdom they have gained. Yep I am full of it, I mean wisdom, and I carry only revolvers. I so like my Charter Bulldog 44 spl. for carry.
The last semi auto an LC9s got shot a few times and has sat in the safe ever since. Good gun but I just don't like semi auto for carry. LOL I should not have bought it but I got a good price and we all know we can't turn down a good price on a good gun.
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I'm 53 and sometimes carry my SP101. I'm almost hobbling, gimpy and need glasses, now get off my lawn!
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I'm 63 and I always carry a revolver. I have been told it is because I am old, and can't change. I have several semi auto pistols and I enjoy shooting them but when my life depends on it I will choose a revolver every time.
Like a gentleman said earlier SMART people carry REVOLVERS.
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One of the reasons my EDC continues to be a revolver may be somewhat emotional. I had to use my issued thirty-eight more than once during my 30 year LEO career and it just worked, so that's where my comfort level lies. We transitioned to the Glock 23 before I retired and if I was still on the job that weapon would make sense. I do carry my LCP when my J frame cannot be readily concealed. At 70 guess I fit the old guy thing. 9/17 Update: Gave the LCP to my son in law b/c his Sig was too big/heavy for EDC and I want my daughter and grandkids protected. The 340PD will continue to be my EDC.
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At the risk of sounding like my father use to, I think getting old brings some level of wisdom and patience with the resulting ability to resist chasing the next shinny thing that comes along.
ps. At 57, I prefer a revolver for carry because I know it's going to go BANG every time I pull the trigger. Not sure that's wisdom or a deeply rooted self preservation instinct. :-)
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I feel it is a honor to sound like my father. Proud to carry on his likes.
ps. At 63 I agree with you 100 percent.
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I'm 63 and I like revolvers, but the arthritis in my shooting hand won't let me carry a big caliber snubby. My 9mm pistols don't bother me (no doubt because of the action absorbing some of the recoil), but I can't even shoot a box of standard pressure .38 in my former LCR .357 without my pinky finger swelling up for 24 hours.
I have an LCR .22 magnum that doesn't bother me. I carry it on walks and such, but for EDC, I'm going to stick with my Shield 9.
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Damn whippersnappers. I'm 64!
I just shot some Winchester Ranger (Bonded) 130gr +P out of my 642-1 yesterday to get some practice with my carry ammo.
The Airweight handles the load well, imho. The stock grips do a very nice job absorbing the recoil.
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I'm 63 and I like revolvers, but the arthritis in my shooting hand won't let me carry a big caliber snubby. My 9mm pistols don't bother me (no doubt because of the action absorbing some of the recoil), but I can't even shoot a box of standard pressure .38 in my former LCR .357 without my pinky finger swelling up for 24 hours.
I have an LCR .22 magnum that doesn't bother me. I carry it on walks and such, but for EDC, I'm going to stick with my Shield 9.
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I carry a LCR 357 or a SW 642 pro series.
Like you I am 63 years young and have arthritis in both hands and they will beat you up. So I practice with a LCR 22 and continue carrying the revolver.
But the shield 9 is proven and will get the job done they are a pleasure to shoot.
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Fora long time I favored autos. I mostly only have revolvers now since they are more suitable to my needs. Chiefs special easily conceals and is comfortable. Something I will actually carry on me all the time so it made a lot more sense than any auto I had. Better to have 5 shots in a snub that I know will go off than 13-15 rounds of 40s&w sitting at home, and my logic is why try to EDC a semi auto of comparable size that only may give me one or two extra round in a gun that would jam if muzzzle contact was made. I'm a regular Joe and that's the likely scenario for a situation I'd need it in. S&W 686 4" is the best choice for me when hunting and hiking, and makes for a great HD gun with 38 spcl +p.
My wife got a M&P 9c, and we've come to agree that the slide is just to hard for her to manipulate so she will soon be getting a j frame for carry. We are both in our mid to late 30's.
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Since 11/2014 this BODYGUARD 38 has been my EDCG...
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A long time ago (an old) sailor told me there were OLD sailors and BOLD sailors, but NO OLD BOLD sailors. I guess he meant that in most endeavors the long term survivors are those who make wise choices.
Semi-auto=fad, alloy frame=fad, polymer=fad, hollow points=fad, fast light bullets=fad, kydex=fad, polygon bores=fad;-)
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I've said it before, but I'll say it again: "Old" is when you don't have interest in much of anything!
I'm a short hair away from 67, with all the usual pains that one gets over a lifetime of doing things that can get you hurt. The broken bones, cracked ribs, herniated discs, torn muscles, etc., have all come back to haunt me. In the last year, I've had three serious surgeries, and am in the slow process of recovering full strength and stamina. I'm probably pushing it too hard at this point ( A good sleep for me requires VA prescribed pain meds.), but I just can't sit around like a lump and do nothing.
The last two days have been spent mowing about 1 1/2 acres of grass-gone-to-bamboo to find my yard. I have a half-dismantled old 4x4 Dodge pickup, with a broken frame, in the shop that I started tearing apart last week, to rob the engine and trans to put in another pickup with a good frame. I have two more pickup projects after that, a couple of old MoPar cars to refurb, two motorcycles to work on (I still ride), books to read, holsters to make, guns to shoot, a vegetable garden to maintain, beer to drink and lots of meat to smoke in the old Weber.
All this is done while carrying whatever I feel like carrying at the time. Revolvers and semis all get their turn. When I go out socially, or shopping, my CC piece is usually a S&W 438 or an XDs 9, or one of the four Firestars in 9mm, .40 S&W or in .45 ACP. The big Smith revolvers are for jaunts through the woods.
So, I guess I must be an anomaly of sorts... I have a young, active mind trapped in a pretty beat up old body. I get cranky and sharp-tongued when needed (the revolver guy), and keep on truckin' doing young man stuff (the semi-auto guy), if that's how you want to look at it.
Schizophrenia? Hell no... I have Quadrophenia!
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I've said it before, but I'll say it again: "Old" is when you don't have interest in much of anything!
I'm a short hair away from 67, with all the usual pains that one gets over a lifetime of doing things that can get you hurt. The broken bones, cracked ribs, herniated discs, torn muscles, etc., have all come back to haunt me. In the last year, I've had three serious surgeries, and am in the slow process of recovering full strength and stamina. I'm probably pushing it too hard at this point ( A good sleep for me requires VA prescribed pain meds.), but I just can't sit around like a lump and do nothing.
The last two days have been spent mowing about 1 1/2 acres of grass-gone-to-bamboo to find my yard. I have a half-dismantled old 4x4 Dodge pickup, with a broken frame, in the shop that I started tearing apart last week, to rob the engine and trans to put in another pickup with a good frame. I have two more pickup projects after that, a couple of old MoPar cars to refurb, two motorcycles to work on (I still ride), books to read, holsters to make, guns to shoot, a vegetable garden to maintain, beer to drink and lots of meat to smoke in the old Weber.
All this is done while carrying whatever I feel like carrying at the time. Revolvers and semis all get their turn. When I go out socially, or shopping, my CC piece is usually a S&W 438 or an XDs 9, or one of the four Firestars in 9mm, .40 S&W or in .45 ACP. The big Smith revolvers are for jaunts through the woods.
So, I guess I must be an anomaly of sorts... I have a young, active mind trapped in a pretty beat up old body. I get cranky and sharp-tongued when needed (the revolver guy), and keep on truckin' doing young man stuff (the semi-auto guy), if that's how you want to look at it.
Schizophrenia? Hell no... I have Quadrophenia!
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(Of course I'm a lot younger at 64 and can still remember the music. )
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Nope. I'm 33 and my 360 M&P is all set everyday.
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Must be true as I'm carrying my LCR every day. Unless I'm carrying my LCP. Or my G26.
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Must be true as I'm carrying my LCR every day. Unless I'm carrying my LCP. Or my G26.
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I don't think I am old yet, I turned 37 in April. I have an LCR that is on my hip to and from work. We can't carry at the job so it stays in the console when I am working and is worn if I stop for anything on the way home. This one is chosen because I would miss it the least should it be stolen, God forbid.
My normal carry when out and about is either a government or commander 1911 on my hip with a spare mag, a spartan blades knife, and a bond arms loaded with 3" 000 buck in my pocket. I would say I am more of an auto guy and I prefer a 1911. Though I do own a Sig Pro and a beretta 92 with some wilson parts as my blasters.
That being said I am starting to appreciate a good revolver. The first one I bought was a 686 plus 4" the weekend after 9-11. I was 21. I remember the very first shot I ever took with it was in the middle of the bullseye. Loved that gun. Parted ways with it after my divorce. Missed it ever since.
Fast forward to about 3 months ago and I picked up another one. Not quite as nice as the first, a VERY slight cant, but very solid and a sweet shooter. A couple of weeks ago I brought home a governor, my wife is awesome. Love that one too. I plugged both and now the governor is pushing the 92 out of the nightstand gun spot. I am working on my double action pull.
Now I am seriously looking into the idea of getting a 3" 686 plus as my next gun with CC in mind. When I first got into guns, it was all about the plastic fantastics. Then when I started carrying as I got a little older I moved toward the 1911 which I love dearly. Now that I have even a couple more years I am starting to appreciate a good wheel gun. So maybe the interest does come with some age? Who knows. I just know I am starting to dig revolvers and plan on adding a couple more to the family arsenal.
Now, all that being said, if the world REALLY went sideways and I was strapping on my plate carrier what would I choose? It would be one of my ARs for my rifle with possibly a 1911 in my holster but more than likely it would by my 92. For protection on the street? I feel just fine with the set up mentioned earlier. With some more trigger time I think I would also feel confident with a 3" 686 plus in my holster as well.
Just my thoughts.
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70th Birthday Wish Granted ...
I'm about to celebrate seven decades of life on this Earth and my Wife has said that I can have any thing I want.
So after careful consideration I decided on a rare and sought after revolver, a Smith & Wesson Model 547.
This one was offered for sale on a popular auction site and I won the bidding, making this handgun the most expensive I've ever purchased :
I replaced the grips with a set of Pachmayr compacts for concealed carry:
My first 6 rounds out of the 547 just to test functionality and point of aim:
Earlier I posted my lightweight carry combination of 360PD AirLite and 3914 DAO inside the waistband. Now I have the option of going "heavy" with this pair:
With the 547 carrying six 9mm Hornady Critical Defense rounds and the 915 with 18 of the same I feel well protected.
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Rotoscoliosis in my back at 56 yrs of age has all but eliminated 3:00 or 4:00 carry of my Glocks so am pocket carrying a 640-1 if up close defense is necessary. Definitely makes a difference with comfort and mobility. Next CCW renewal I plan to add a 60 pro-series for appendix carry. Good to have the option of slow/precision single action shots with it as well.
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Earlier I posted my lightweight carry combination of 360PD AirLite and 3914 DAO inside the waistband. Now I have the option of going "heavy" with this pair:
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What is that holster wrapped around the 360PD?
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I have had chronic back pain for 30 years Dan, and I find Appendix carry to be the most comfortable for me, especially with a heavier gun like the 547.
Going "heavy" with both the 547 and 915 is only tolerable for short periods of walking around. Fortunately I don't do much of that anymore, and riding around in my truck I'll secure the 915 in the center console, only wearing it in the small of my back if I leave the truck.
If planning on extended periods out of the truck I'll leave the 915 in the safe and take my 3914 DAO which carries and conceals much better.
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I am 26 and mother of two little kids, not choosing a revolver never crossed my mind. Even when I knew nothing about guns I was in love with revolvers.
My husband likes his XD 9mm but I always tell him if you want a 'fire every time' kind of gun, you go for the revolver.
This is my defense gun, a model 65-2.
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What is that holster wrapped around the 360PD?
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Talldog and deadeardan, The holsters I prefer are Kydex - Carbon Fiber models bought off eBay. Thinner and lighter than leather and don't absorb or retain moisture.
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I've got my newly front sight painted 642 in an appendix carry kydex holster sitting right behind the laptop as I type this. So comfortable...
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My newly acquired Model 547 just got a coat of white out on the front blade. Makes picking up the front sight fast, almost as good as the Big Dots on my backup gun:
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I took a SIG semiauto to the indoor range tonight. It's a nice gun. Totally reliable and holds a boat load of ammo. I just can't hit with it like I can a revolver. I think, that for me, a revolver makes more sense because only good hits count. Am I crazy?
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I took a SIG semiauto to the indoor range tonight. It's a nice gun. Totally reliable and holds a boat load of ammo. I just can't hit with it like I can a revolver. I think, that for me, a revolver makes more sense because only good hits count. Am I crazy?
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If you can shoot a revolver well, you can shoot the sig well also. Try decocking between shots at first and then incorporating the single action into your practice routine. You're welcome.
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I've never figured out why some folks can shoot better with a revolver than a semi auto, or vice versa. I've seen both cases. One of my friends back in the day was a State Trooper, and he could shoot phenomenally with first the model 66, and then they went to the 686, and he was even better. He won many matches, and his trophies and records are still displayed at the SP headquarters. Then the SP went to the Smith and Wesson stainless steel 40 S&W...I can't remember the model right now. He was still a good shot, better than most, but never achieved the level of perfection that he had with the revolver. And believe me, he practiced!!
On the other hand, I had an attorney friend who was an officer in the Marines, then came out and went into private practice. His gun was the .45 1911. Of course he had a well tuned gun (back before all these high quality guns were available) I think he had had it worked on by an armorer in the USMC. He was a bullseye shooter. I have seen him shoot groups that I literally did not think were possible. And at like 50 yards. But he while he was fair with a revolver, he could never shoot as well as he did with that darn .45.
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I am glad it is not just me. The SIG is beautifully finished and totally reliable but I shoot my wife's K Frame much better and it's not even my gun.
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I've never figured out why some folks can shoot better with a revolver than a semi auto, or vice versa. I've seen both cases. One of my friends back in the day was a State Trooper, and he could shoot phenomenally with first the model 66, and then they went to the 686, and he was even better. He won many matches, and his trophies and records are still displayed at the SP headquarters. Then the SP went to the Smith and Wesson stainless steel 40 S&W...I can't remember the model right now. He was still a good shot, better than most, but never achieved the level of perfection that he had with the revolver. And believe me, he practiced!!
On the other hand, I had an attorney friend who was an officer in the Marines, then came out and went into private practice. His gun was the .45 1911. Of course he had a well tuned gun (back before all these high quality guns were available) I think he had had it worked on by an armorer in the USMC. He was a bullseye shooter. I have seen him shoot groups that I literally did not think were possible. And at like 50 yards. But he while he was fair with a revolver, he could never shoot as well as he did with that darn .45.
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I have a friend like that. Give him a rifle....any rifle in any caliber and configuration, and he'll turn it into a sniper rifle. He just picks them up and shoots amazing groups at long ranges with iron sights, sometimes a red dot. I'm convinced he could take an old musket and put all bullets in one hole at 500 yards! However give him any handgun at 10 yards and watch him miss the target more than half the time. It's the weirdest thing!!!
For me revolver grips just don't have enough surface area to fill my grip unless it's a oversized rubber grip, at which point it defeats the purpose of carry. Same is true for mouse guns. I can shoot both well if I shoot very slow and readjust my grip every time
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I'm a mere 76 and have been carrying the same Model 37 I bought new in 1978, I guess you could call that a "stick in the mud". I have spent a lot of time developing the double action pull and it is pretty good. I will admit that occasionally a KelTec p32 or a NAA Wasp in .22Mag finds its way into my pocket but not very often.
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I've never figured out why some folks can shoot better with a revolver than a semi auto, or vice versa. I've seen both cases.
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Les, I shot my best qualification scores, (beginning in the 80's up until the early 2000's), with revolvers...specifically model 19's with 2.5" barrel and model 15 with 2" barrel.
I've come close with various semi-autos, (Colt, S&W, Glock), but never bested my highest revolver scores.
Not sure how it would work out if I shot the same course today with one vs. the other but I only qualify annually with my Glocks these days for LEOSA.
(I carry my S&W 642 or 686+ locally under my state license.)
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I have carried the same M40 and M36 since the seventies and eighties. It is what I am most comforable with. My 640 may be just as good, but it isn't what I practiced and practiced and practiced with when I was young and had the time and burning desire to be the best. I can outshoot my neighbor with a Taurus, but am best with those two whom I trusted my life to for over 20 years on the job. (Of course a great revolver with fixed sights is ALLWAYS superior to even the best auto-loaders where the barrel and sights (slide) move around (fewer variables)).
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Les, I shot my best qualification scores, (beginning in the 80's up until the early 2000's), with revolvers...specifically model 19's with 2.5" barrel and model 15 with 2" barrel.
I've come close with various semi-autos, (Colt, S&W, Glock), but never bested my highest revolver scores.
Not sure how it would work out if I shot the same course today with one vs. the other but I only qualify annually with my Glocks these days for LEOSA.
(I carry my S&W 642 or 686+ locally under my state license.)
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I posted this somewhere else, but one week ago today I shot my LEOSA course with my former department, and shot my old issue Glock 23 for the semiauto, and shot a 96%, which I was pretty pleased with. Then shot the same course with my 640-1 Pro Series, (by the way, 80% is passing) and shot a 100%!!!
Talk about tickled?? I had been worrying about passing!! As I posted elsewhere, here's a big stress reducer: I now have electronic earmuffs, and changed out the battery before I went to shoot. I remember my first retiree shoot...I couldn't hear any commands, whistles, electronic timer buzzers, nothing, nit very well anyway. Learned my lesson. One less thing to worry about when you are under a little pressure. Like many of you, I also have a WV state permit which is good in about 39 states, I have a Florida permit, and here in WV we have "constitutional carry", so no one really needs a permit here, but I like to be covered when I travel...belt and suspenders!!
Anyway, sort of relevant to the revolver vs semi topic.
Best Regards, Les
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We pack the .38 because it works
To all you gun toters who think the 20th century was the Stone Age,.38 revolvers will get the job done for defense.
Beginning in 1973, I was a cop in Los Angeles County. Every fellow cop I knew carried a .38 special in either a Colt or S&W with a 4 or 6 inch barrel. I carried a Colt Trooper Mk III with a four-inch barrel in an old Bianchi border patrolman holster. Twelve spare rounds of ammunition were carried in dump pouches, as speed loaders hadn’t been approved as yet. After a night shoot in which the nose of the ammunition hung up, I bought a .357 magnum version of the dump pouches and kept my ammo in Bianchi speed strips. I positioned them so they opened on the top instead of dumping so all I had to do was pull up on the strip tab. On my paddle key ring was a key for the shotgun lock and a call box key.
I was newly married and making $960 a month. My take home pay was $333 every two weeks. There was little money left over at the end of the month so an off-duty gun was out of the question. I carried the old Colt everywhere on and off duty. Off duty it was carried in an old Safariland OWB, tan with thumb break-designed holster. I still have the Trooper and both holsters.
We shot monthly qualifications and were paid extra depending upon expertise. Maximum shooting pay was $16.00 a month. Shooting pay was paid in one lump sum the first pay period in December. The trigger on the old Trooper was nowhere as slick as on a S&W, but I practiced until I could quickly stage the trigger and touch it off at the last until I made Distinguished Expert pay. $192.00 was a lot of money in 1973 dollars.
The ‘auto only generation’ may say that we didn’t have the need for high capacity autos as it was before the age of terrorism. You’re right, but we did have the Crips, Bloods, Hells Angels, Mexican Mafia, bank robbers working in pairs and armed ex-cons. Home invasion robberies wasn’t even a term yet, but I wished we could carry Colt 1911’s, but we were able to get the job done with .38 revolvers.
I think much of it was due to the fact that we talked and communicated with one another and we practiced not only shooting, but ‘what if’s, What if we’re ambushed in the alley?, What if you sense something hinky on a traffic stop? or What if your partner is held at gunpoint?”, etc. If something caught our eyes and didn’t look right or even if it made us wonder “why” we stopped and investigated.
We knew how to talk to people. I remember my field training officer made me get out of the car one swing shift (1630 – 0230 hours) in a residential area. He told me that I had to stop and talk with everyone on the one side of the block and down the other. He said he’d wait for me and I would have to relate every detail of every conversion I had with members of the public. There’s no app for that!
No we were not politically correct as we pulled our revolvers on many people at the slightest provocation. I can’t count the number of times I pointed my revolver and covered some citizen who came up to the car to talk.
We were trained and had the frame of mind to carry out the use of deadly force. We didn’t have or need psychologists for use of force incidents.
With my Colt and eighteen rounds of ammo, I rode and walked, entered burglarized buildings, conducted felony car stops and faced down armed criminals. We all carried eighteen rounds of ammo and I didn’t know anyone who carried a backup weapon until the mid and late 70’s when the AMT .380 and North American Arms .22 short came out.
In 1987, I attended the mandatory two-day semi auto class and started carrying a S&W 645. Later I carried a Glock 17 before ending my 30-year career with a S&W model 15. I carried two twin HKS speed loader pouches on my Sam Brown. Why? I disliked the DA/SA trigger on the old 645 and it was heavy. Like the Glock, the trigger pull was consistent from shot to shot with the model 15 without worrying about the partially staged trigger on the Glock. The .38 ammo had changed over the years from 110 grain Super Vels to Winchester 110 grain +P. I never felt under gunned and still don’t. I have a four-inch S&W model 64 next to my computer as I type.
You may well say a .38 revolver is unsuited or outdated for personal defense, but that is only your opinion. I’ve been there and done that. I’ve stared down the barrel at countless people with the .38 and it has never let me down. I do not know of a failure of the delivery system or ammo in actual use. It may not be stylish in the 21st century and it certainly isn’t perfect, but what weapons system is? An academy classmate of mine working for another department shot a suspect with a S&W .44. Two shots to the chest at up close and personal distance. The suspect was alive upon arrival of the paramedics. My four-inch .38 has worked on multiple and moving targets (another cop and I would drive to Lancaster before there were people there to shoot running jackrabbits). I have trusted my life and the lives of my partners with it.
Be safe. I am.
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Thanks for the input StarPacker, nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth.
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star, you experience makes me feel very good about my model 15.
thank you.
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Welcome to the forum, StarPacker!!! Great first post! Hang around, you won't always agree with everyone, but there are an awful lot of guys here who know an awful lot about an amazing array of different stuff.
By the way, I couldn't agree with you more. Although I still qualify with my Glock, I carry either a 38 or 357 magnum revolver most of the time. Very well written post.
Best Regards, Les
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66 years young--started carrying at 23 years old. Started carrying a colt commander or a browning hi-power 9mm with a model 36 or 60 in a pocket. Over the years always preferred an auto with a j or k frame in combo or two revolvers such as a 19 or 28 or other n frame. Started IDPA shooting glock 35. Lots of fun.
My current carry is a Colt or ruger 1911 commander or 40 cal Browning Hi-power with a 2 or 3 inch j frame 357 loaded with 38 +P buffalo bore. Holster selection is key.
Was at the local range last week and was shooting my hi-power and my 3 inch model 60. The model 60 shoots very well but the browning is extremely accurate and easy to shoot. Beautiful bluing, factory adj sights, cocobolo grips and Has a Cylinder & Slide trigger job. I feel real comfortable with this combo. By the way I had much smaller groups than the two 30+ young shooters on either side of me. They were shooting plastic guns. I let them shoot my hi-power. They really liked it.
I usually have one piece in a shoulder holster and the other either in my pocket or a strong side IWB. I usually wear a suit or sport coat
Like Ken NUll, Bianchi 9r and jackass shoulder holsters and el Paso Saddlery owb holsters--these are very high quality. Mag pouches IWB and speed strips or loaders for j frame in pocket.
This is what works for this old guy. Everyone will find their own path and comfort zone. Only recommendation is to buy good quality and practice a lot. IDPA with a revolver or a 1911 is a good start.
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I don't know if I'm what you would call old, being in my thirties. But I love carrying my 13-3 3".
.357 magnum is going to hurt whether it's 1967 or 2017.
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I was at the local shooting range with a J frame 38 special , K frame model 64 38 special and N frame model 58 41 magnum , all three had custom Ahrends grips in exotic woods. Those young bucks with their plastic wonder 9 pistols acted like they had never seen a revolver. I let them all , three of them, shoot them . One fellow said he wanted to get one because he liked being able to put fancy wood grips on it . Something you can't do with with a plastic wonder pistol !
Nice boys , maybe I turned them on to the other side of handguns.
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Pertinent Question, how did Old Guys get to be Old Guys?
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Revolver since 1977
I'm 61. Bought my first pistols when I was 21. A Smith 36 and a
Colt mkIV Series 70 45 ACP. Always owned revolvers and autos.
I've rarely carried but when I did it was the revolver. Today I have a Smith 360j and a LC9s. If I carry, its the J frame. It fits me better for pocket carry. I may change ammo from +P HP to target wadcutters to shot loads.
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Well I started this thread & ck.what I've been carrying lately! Glock 30s in a LOBO(got this from him before he got lazy & retired).I also carry my S&W Model 60 2".Also like my S&W Model 65-3!Sigh,right now I'm looking to buy a Kimber K6 3"revolver.I'm 73 & just a kind elderly white gentleman living in Miami Fl.
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The "Old Man Syndrome" struck again last week. Picked up a Colt Detective Special with a three inch barrel. Shoots like a dream and the cylinder has six holes.
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Around my neck of the woods I rarely see anyone without grey hair shooting a revolver.
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i guess at 60 i qualify, have been shooting revolvers alot over the years but with ccw in illinois now " i was in the first group off cc licenses issued" semi autos where what i was steered to initially. but i have found though reasonably accurate, theres the occasional ftf fte with semi autos, just there it is and i hate plastic guns always will. decided with fall jacket n coat weather i will be packing either my 686 ssr or 4"629. heck with speed loaders will carry one but got a 442 for a backup, as a plus the 442 is even more pocket friendly than my shield and lighter. Revolvers might not be for everyone. lets face it in a world where people complain about a 6 or 7 lb pull on their stiker fired gun where will they fall on a dao 442 with a 11lb pull? for me i like that pull, its smooth and sw has that nice letoff point where its easy to stage for a precision shot. predictable, smooth and as utterly reliable as it gets. and its its own safety feature built in. i love the revolver, who knows maybe looking into the future will mean revisiting the past, revolvers are a long way from going out of style, my lgs cant keep them on the shelves.
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