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Pick your favorite caliber of handgun ... and pick your favorite brand of gasoline.
Neither choice is likely to make you a more skilled shooter or driver.
I remember learning this gentleman was a former member on another forum where I participate. I remember his posts typically making him seem more like an owner/enthusiast, but nothing was ever posted which made him seem as though he was possessed of any particular training or professional experience to offer in support of his opinions. He seemingly had the money to be able to buy a lot of guns, and he liked to post thoughts, questions and opinions about them. No biggie. The internet is the Wild West when it comes to being able to bruit about cherished opinions, right?
His online video presentation and persona is obviously what he wishes it to be, although it's unlikely to elevate him to attracting the interest of some types of serious owners and training professionals who are looking to add to their knowledge base. To be fair, that doesn't seem to be his desire or goal, though, so again ... no biggie.
Caliber?
Yep, the gun's pretty much got to come chambered in one of them ...
Got one picked out? Cool, now let's go downrange and see how safely and how well you can run the gun and make it sing and dance, especially when the music gets fast and frantic.
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He's an idiot and a Hilary lover
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I think he says stuff in certain ways to get a rise out of people. I am retired from pathology now and can say that I examined all calibers of bullets from people both alive and dead. All of them killed someone and all of them did not, including the .22LR. The bullets all looked the same too. FMJs intact or distorted, hollow points opened to varying degrees.
People forget you are taking a fixed object (bullet) and shooting it into a variable object (body) so should expect some mileage may vary. The diameter difference at either the start or finish is not enough to matter enough to waste time thinking about. Remember the body has survival mechanisms built in. Skin is elastic so wants to close any hole made by any object. The organs themselves have a certain amount of mobility inside and are made of different tissues with different densities etc.
Police depts. have reported no real street use differences among the calibers whether they issue them all or went back to the 9mm from .40 or .45 using modern ammo in all calibers. It's still where you shoot them first.
You need to have confidence in the gun, caliber and ammo you are using. That maybe the most important factor in you surviving a gun fight?!
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I say take that character with a grain of salt. His opinions are often designed just to invoke a response and increase his subscription base & YouTube income... not necessarily to educate.
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One of his recent gun "reviews" included a long, angry, rant about a minuscule cosmetic thing that I wouldn't even notice or care about.
Shame on me for watching any of his videos. At least I'm not a subscriber.
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the difference between a 9mm and a 45 is .097 inches .. not a big difference .. difference
between the 40S&W and a 45 is only .051 inches ..
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The difference between a .224 and a .323 is almost the same. Except the frontal surface area is DOUBLE for the 8mm. All other things considered, the 8mm is running up against, resisting, and crushing double the surface area and tissue. Its not just a few hundredths of an inch, its a doubling of area. Its not just a double size wound cavity in theory, its more resistance and tearing.
The 45 is roughly 40% more area than the 9mm, meaning at least a larger cavity, and also more resistance and better damage in living tissue at similar penetration depths. Not a small difference at all.
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Getting back to the original post, his little video isn't so awful, except for the fact that he's wrong. The .45ACP cartridge has several advantages not shared by all of the other acceptable cartridges, and probably not all shared by any of the other acceptable cartridges.
First, and maybe least, it is a low-pressure cartridge. This may not make it a better cartridge than the 9mm Parabellum, which until recently was almost always used in pistols with pleny of metal around the sensitive areas, but some would say that it does make it a better cartridge than the .40 S&W, which otherwise is probably its equal, and has had some pressure-related problems.
Second and subsequent, it is chambered in the 1911, which is slimmer than most guns, fits smaller hands better than most full-size autos, can be carried more easily than many or most other full-size autos, and, FWIW, can be detail-disassembled more easily than perhaps any other pistol.
Aside from the fact that he's wrong, he does bring up some interesting views. However, they are not uncontestable.
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If they were able to make a comment, I am sure many people who had the occasion to face the round and pistol on the battle fields since 1911 might have a different opinion.
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Getting back to the original post, his little video isn't so awful, except for the fact that he's wrong. The .45ACP cartridge has several advantages not shared by all of the other acceptable cartridges, and probably not all shared by any of the other acceptable cartridges.
First, and maybe least, it is a low-pressure cartridge. This may not make it a better cartridge than the 9mm Parabellum, which until recently was almost always used in pistols with pleny of metal around the sensitive areas, but some would say that it does make it a better cartridge than the .40 S&W, which otherwise is probably its equal, and has had some pressure-related problems.
Second and subsequent, it is chambered in the 1911, which is slimmer than most guns, fits smaller hands better than most full-size autos, can be carried more easily than many or most other full-size autos, and, FWIW, can be detail-disassembled more easily than perhaps any other pistol.
Aside from the fact that he's wrong, he does bring up some interesting views. However, they are not uncontestable.
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I love the 1911 but technology has come a long way in the past century. Virtually any modern single stack auto will be just as slim, much lighter and easier to carry, without needing a manual safety.
I still carry my 1911 sometimes but it's rarely my first choice these days.
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Getting back to the original post, his little video isn't so awful, except for the fact that he's wrong. The .45ACP cartridge has several advantages not shared by all of the other acceptable cartridges, and probably not all shared by any of the other acceptable cartridges.
First, and maybe least, it is a low-pressure cartridge. This may not make it a better cartridge than the 9mm Parabellum, which until recently was almost always used in pistols with pleny of metal around the sensitive areas, but some would say that it does make it a better cartridge than the .40 S&W, which otherwise is probably its equal, and has had some pressure-related problems.
Second and subsequent, it is chambered in the 1911, which is slimmer than most guns, fits smaller hands better than most full-size autos, can be carried more easily than many or most other full-size autos, and, FWIW, can be detail-disassembled more easily than perhaps any other pistol.
Aside from the fact that he's wrong, he does bring up some interesting views. However, they are not uncontestable.
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Slimmer they are not....... Anymore. 1911 are made by just about everyone to their own specs. Many are quite thick, thicker than most polymer 45s. But because their rounded off they SEEM thinner. For instance the Sig is 1.4 inches wide while the G21 is 1.27 inches wide
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It took me 20 seconds to turn that off. Must be slowin down.
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Of course there is a follow-up video:
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Who is a subscriber and sends him Patreon.
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I love the 1911 but technology has come a long way in the past century. Virtually any modern single stack auto will be just as slim, much lighter and easier to carry, without needing a manual safety.
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I readily admit that I am not fully up to speed on modern autos. However, it is not enough to be slim. Even I, with my minimal exposure to today (I DO live in MA), have handled a number of guns which are slimmer, but not so many that were actually comfortable in the hand, like a 1911 with normal wooden grips is. A 1911 can also be lighter, if one is willing to accept an aluminum frame. Regardless, I have had quite a bit of time carrying a full-size steel 1911 IWB in a Milt Sparks Summer Special, all day and into the night, and only pocket carry of an aluminum revolver can be guaranteed to beat it.
As far as manual safeties, opinions differ on their utility. While I generally don't like them, I find the one on the 1911 to be acceptable. What I DON'T generally find acceptable is the lack of a hammer to control the possibility of a discharge while holstering. For example, the Glock has a nearly foolproof safety in the trigger. Improved-model fools continue to have ADs even with Glocks.
I certainly wouldn't say that those who evaluate the practicality of certain cartridges or guns differently from me are wrong. Their circumstances may be different, or even just their opinions or preferences. OTOH, my evaluation is probably not wrong, either, or at least it hasn't been shown yet.
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I readily admit that I am not fully up to speed on modern autos. However, it is not enough to be slim. Even I, with my minimal exposure to today (I DO live in MA), have handled a number of guns which are slimmer, but not so many that were actually comfortable in the hand, like a 1911 with normal wooden grips is. A 1911 can also be lighter, if one is willing to accept an aluminum frame. Regardless, I have had quite a bit of time carrying a full-size steel 1911 IWB in a Milt Sparks Summer Special, all day and into the night, and only pocket carry of an aluminum revolver can be guaranteed to beat it.
As far as manual safeties, opinions differ on their utility. While I generally don't like them, I find the one on the 1911 to be acceptable. What I DON'T generally find acceptable is the lack of a hammer to control the possibility of a discharge while holstering. For example, the Glock has a nearly foolproof safety in the trigger. Improved-model fools continue to have ADs even with Glocks.
I certainly wouldn't say that those who evaluate the practicality of certain cartridges or guns differently from me are wrong. Their circumstances may be different, or even just their opinions or preferences. OTOH, my evaluation is probably not wrong, either, or at least it hasn't been shown yet.
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No argument there, the 1911 grip (and trigger) feels much better than any Glock I've ever held. I've seen some nice custom Glocks with grip reductions and stippling but they will set you back about $250.
There is also a gadget for Glocks now where you can reholster with your thumb over the back of the slide to prevent an ND. So, if you want to spend lots of money you can get similar functionality out of a Glock. Not that I've found one I enjoy shooting as much as a 1911 though.
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Pick your favorite caliber of handgun ... and pick your favorite brand of gasoline.
Neither choice is likely to make you a more skilled shooter or driver.
I remember learning this gentleman was a former member on another forum where I participate. I remember his posts typically making him seem more like an owner/enthusiast, but nothing was ever posted which made him seem as though he was possessed of any particular training or professional experience to offer in support of his opinions. He seemingly had the money to be able to buy a lot of guns, and he liked to post thoughts, questions and opinions about them. No biggie. The internet is the Wild West when it comes to being able to bruit about cherished opinions, right?
His online video presentation and persona is obviously what he wishes it to be, although it's unlikely to elevate him to attracting the interest of some types of serious owners and training professionals who are looking to add to their knowledge base. To be fair, that doesn't seem to be his desire or goal, though, so again ... no biggie.
Caliber?
Yep, the gun's pretty much got to come chambered in one of them ...
Got one picked out? Cool, now let's go downrange and see how safely and how well you can run the gun and make it sing and dance, especially when the music gets fast and frantic.
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I recall one video in which he indicated that he had just left a position as a LEO, and another in which he spoke of being ex-military.
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This video hits the nail on the head! MOST of the comments on this thread were attacking a comment that the Marshall didn't even make. It's as though ANY comment made that says anything other than ".45 ACP is the worlds most superior defensive round", must be attacked! I don't get it.
I defy anyone to logically dispute his contention that the .45 acp is not the best in ANY category - which is all he said in the OP's video.
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Getting back to the original post, his little video isn't so awful, except for the fact that he's wrong. The .45ACP cartridge has several advantages not shared by all of the other acceptable cartridges, and probably not all shared by any of the other acceptable cartridges.
First, and maybe least, it is a low-pressure cartridge. This may not make it a better cartridge than the 9mm Parabellum, which until recently was almost always used in pistols with pleny of metal around the sensitive areas, but some would say that it does make it a better cartridge than the .40 S&W, which otherwise is probably its equal, and has had some pressure-related problems.
Second and subsequent, it is chambered in the 1911, which is slimmer than most guns, fits smaller hands better than most full-size autos, can be carried more easily than many or most other full-size autos, and, FWIW, can be detail-disassembled more easily than perhaps any other pistol.
Aside from the fact that he's wrong, he does bring up some interesting views. However, they are not uncontestable.
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Both of your points are easily contested. Your second point first.
It is chambered in 1911???? 1911's are available chambered in 9mm and .4o s&w as well, meaning that either would be *as thin*, or thinner, than a 1911 .45acp.
The platform cannot be used as a means to demonstrate the superiority of .45acp over another caliber....when that other caliber is ALSO supported by the same platform.
To your first point. Pressure related issues are NOT caused by the .40, but rather by the attempts to constantly "shrink" the dimensions of the firearm it's used in.
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That cat is somewhat of a sub-caliber comedian....
What's with that Bow-Tech cap?
I jest wonder if he chooses field points over broad heads for hunting????
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I held my tongue as long as I could. Enough is enough. YM is simply a man expressing an opinion, just like we all do, and some here are LOUDLY expressing.
Many of the comments here show - 1) the person who posted did not take the time to watch the video, 2) the person who posted does not watch any of his videos, 3) does not understand sarcasm, or 4) has absolutely no sense of humor.
Rather than debate the opinions he offers some would rather launch a personal attack against him, calling him variously - a cross dresser, a Hillary lover, an idiot, an A hole, spouting misinformation and fabrication. I have also probably missed other personal attacks.
Focus on the message and not the messenger. Debate his points, don't bash him because you disagree. I disagree with my wife about things but I don't call her names and show her disrespect.
I watch his videos. I don't always agree with him but he is entitled to his opinions as I am. His sense of humor is a bit off center, as I have been told mine is.
Finally, although I somehow have become an old man, I pray to God that I will NOT become the intolerant, closed-minded, humorless grouch that I see too often in this world.
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I still prefer .45 caliber, HOWEVER: several agencies (federal, state, county, and local) has gone from 9mm, to .40, to .45, and now back to 9mm ?
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I held my tongue as long as I could. Enough is enough. YM is simply a man expressing an opinion, just like we all do, and some here are LOUDLY expressing.
Many of the comments here show - 1) the person who posted did not take the time to watch the video, 2) the person who posted does not watch any of his videos, 3) does not understand sarcasm, or 4) has absolutely no sense of humor.
Rather than debate the opinions he offers some would rather launch a personal attack against him, calling him variously - a cross dresser, a Hillary lover, an idiot, an A hole, spouting misinformation and fabrication. I have also probably missed other personal attacks.
Focus on the message and not the messenger. Debate his points, don't bash him because you disagree. I disagree with my wife about things but I don't call her names and show her disrespect.
I watch his videos. I don't always agree with him but he is entitled to his opinions as I am. His sense of humor is a bit off center, as I have been told mine is.
Finally, although I somehow have become an old man, I pray to God that I will NOT become the intolerant, closed-minded, humorless grouch that I see too often in this world.
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On a slightly different note.....I find that generally the 40 and 45 recoil don't feel much different. Some guns are small and because of that have more felt recoil and some guns have recoil dampening systems but overall when I shoot them side by side I don't see much of a difference.
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This thread is still going? Lol, I've already been to the range twice with my 9mm and 45... they both shot very well and so did I... just get one that you like and shoot the damn thing!!
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I held my tongue as long as I could. Enough is enough. YM is simply a man expressing an opinion, just like we all do, and some here are LOUDLY expressing.
Many of the comments here show - 1) the person who posted did not take the time to watch the video, 2) the person who posted does not watch any of his videos, 3) does not understand sarcasm, or 4) has absolutely no sense of humor.
Rather than debate the opinions he offers some would rather launch a personal attack against him, calling him variously - a cross dresser, a Hillary lover, an idiot, an A hole, spouting misinformation and fabrication. I have also probably missed other personal attacks.
Focus on the message and not the messenger. Debate his points, don't bash him because you disagree. I disagree with my wife about things but I don't call her names and show her disrespect.
I watch his videos. I don't always agree with him but he is entitled to his opinions as I am. His sense of humor is a bit off center, as I have been told mine is.
Finally, although I somehow have become an old man, I pray to God that I will NOT become the intolerant, closed-minded, humorless grouch that I see too often in this world.
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So if he is entitled to his opinion, aren't we as well? Or are we too intolerant and close minded as you think we are?
A few of us bashed him. Then you felt the need to bash us? Kettle? Black?
Being judgmental of someone on a Youtube video is the same as being judgmental of someone on an internet forum. No different.
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I saw this before. IMHO he is afraid of a little recoil and decided that the .45 acp is not good. What are his credentials? None that I see. If the SHTF I'll bet he would rather have a big bore. I'll take a .45acp over a 9 any time.
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