I'm going for my CA CCW and I've tried various CCW holsters; under the arm, outside the pants, inside waist band. The only one I haven't tried yet is a pancake holster. I've tried with with .22 semi, .38 revolver and 9mm simi. Everything still stands out like a soar thumb, you can tell I'm carrying. The only thing that seems to work is a 22 in my pocket. I'm not too happy with using a 22 for concealed carry for its lack of stopping power, and trying to pull from my pocket in an emergency can be a bit problematic. I would like some suggestions on this. Is there something I haven't tried? Thanks for the input.