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What are your most important scenarios for carrying a firearm
What are your most important scenarios for carrying a firearm.
For me:
1) Attending activities at my House of Worship.
2) Walking my dog late at night.
^^^These are the only circumstances where I feel especially vulnerable without a firearm
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Same as anyone else, I suppose...
- Repelling an attack by the Crackerjack Boys.
- Preventing an armed robbery.
- Foiling a Terrorist Plot.
- Rescuing damsels in distress.
But seriously, I carry a firearm for the sake of personal protection, exercising my rights, doing my due diligence. There are no specific scenarios involved.
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I suppose the Walter Mitty in me can envision myself saving the masses of shoppers in the downtown mall from a gang of jihadist terrorists...or taking out the lone gunman perched on the big grain silo on the edge of town sniping at all the locals...or the crazy who all of the sudden goes nuts with an AR in the middle of the double feature at our local cinema, but realistically, those scenarios probably won't happen...at least probably not in my little community.
On the other hand, if Miss Judy needs me to go into the city to pick up a gallon of milk at 10:00 p.m., and I get confronted by some punk in the almost empty grocery store parking lot demanding my wallet...well...then I can see a realistic reason for me carrying.
Bottom line though...carrying is a habit I got into many, many years ago. It's a good habit and I don't plan on breaking it anytime soon.
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Why does one need to envision a scenario? Carry or don't.
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I’ve said this before in some of these discussions regarding carry.
For me, the biggest reasons I wish to be armed as much or more than anything are these two:
1) the journey, in my vehicle. I’m good unless/until something goes awry with my vehicle. If I’m stranded, I want to be armed. If I need to journey away from my vehicle, I want to be armed.
More so is reason 2
2) I want to be armed when I enter my home
I had an incident years ago where I had to enter my home unarmed and that was a BAD situation and an awful scenario to be unarmed.
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Whenever I leave the house. If it's just putting out the trash or walking across the street to the mailbox I choose to have the means to defend myself.
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It's just a way of life. No scenarios or fantasies needed.
Unless you count the occasional dream where I need to shoot but the trigger pull has become impossibly heavy.
Edited to add:
I do have a mall to protect, though. That requires constant training and military grade weapons, of course.
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Its "justification", plain and simple. Its an excuse to purchase a firearm or accessories. Its grand standing.
For example, last night i heard weird banging like noises in my yard. I grabbed my 629 and slid in some jhp and took a looksie. couldnt find anything, but no justification needed at all to have an extra bit of personal enjoyment.
But some people, MANY some peoples need to use strange justifications, most of which fall on the so called "sheep dog saving the sheeples from the wolf".
Yeah its terms used on many shooting forums. They want to play "jason bourne" or "rambo" and take out the swarm of terrorists or gang bangers.
SO they use those fantasies to rationalize carrying a 1911 or glock with a flashlight or nightvision scope mounted on it in a shoulder holster
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I don't need a scenario. If I am outside my house I am almost certainly packing. People get robbed while washing their car or mowing their lawn in CA.
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Self defense. Today, it seems many criminals are no longer just satisfied with your money and possessions - they need to kill or physically harm as well. Possessions can be replaced- your life can not!
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Being outside. The scenario doesn't determine WHEN I carry, but it does determine WHAT I carry.
Yesterday I spent a few hours checking/repairing the pasture fences. For that I holstered a 4" .357 M19. Mowing the lawn, I almost always carry a lightweight .22, usually a Ruger SR22. Going to town? P365. You get the idea.
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I don't need a scenario. If I am outside my house I am almost certainly packing. People get robbed while washing their car or mowing their lawn in CA.
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Man, that is a sad state of affairs.
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I live in a rural area about 100 yds. off the road and I don't go outside unless I have the difference.
Once I was outside and a car full of people drove up and wanted gas. I told them I didn't have any and the person in the front passenger seat started to get out and I put my hand in my pocket and he closed the door and they left.
Living in a rural area does not mean that it's a crime free area. Larry
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If I had a CCW-this is New Jersey-I was an Eagle Scout. "Be Prepared !"
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Wearing pants...if I am I am carrying.
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I live in a rural area about 100 yds. off the road and I don't go outside unless I have the difference.
Once I was outside and a car full of people drove up and wanted gas. I told them I didn't have any and the person in the front passenger seat started to get out and I put my hand in my pocket and he closed the door and they left.
Living in a rural area does not mean that it's a crime free area. Larry
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It lowers the odds quite a lot, but makes the odds of getting help a lot lower and the odds much better for anyone with bad intent.
Where I live we could have a single sheriff on patrol and he could be 30+ miles up country when things go south. And/or maybe already tied up with something else.
Side note: we have 17,000 people in our county. Today is eclipse day and they're expecting 40,000 of you to descend on us. I had to wait almost a full minute to make a left hand turn this morning!
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I only carry a gun when I'm with somebody or by myself.
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It's become a "...strange, strange world we live in Master Jack" during my lifetime!
Out of Law School :
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Mine goes on when I get out of bed and off when I get back in, nothing to think about.
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On the other hand, if Miss Judy needs me to go into the city to pick up a gallon of milk at 10:00 p.m., and I get confronted by some punk in the almost empty grocery store parking lot demanding my wallet...well...then I can see a realistic reason for me carrying.
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I've told the story before, I didn't get a concealed handgun permit until one day some Maniac chased my wife down Nevada Avenue in Colorado Springs screaming at her because there was a W sticker on the car.
When she got home she was absolutely terrified and shaking. My wife wasn't really pro-gun but she got out of that car and she told me I want a gun and I want a concealed handgun permit. I decided if my wife was going to have concealed handgun permit I was going to have a concealed handgun permit and we went through the class together.
When our permits arrived in the mail I didn't know anything about concealed carry. I didn't know when I should carry I didn't know when I shouldn't carry I didn't know how people decided when to carry. So, like everyone else I Googled it.
Google led me to a Firearms forum with several discussions about when to carry and when not to. The most common answer to the question was you should carry a handgun whenever you're legally permitted to do so. So that's what I did.
My program compliance was kind of spotty until the night I walked out my front door on my way to work and in between the building and my car two guys tried to rob me.
I never actually drew my gun that night. I put my hand on it and I told them to leave and they did.
I really don't ever leave the apartment complex unarmed but after that night I don't so much as go check the mail without a gun in my pocket.
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No movie theater.
No mall or outlet.
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Three block Main Street.
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I don't have the decades of firearms use and ownership, that many of others here have, particularly our LE friends. Thirteen years ago, at the age of 50 I got into it. I have purchased many firearms that have turned into quite a nice little nest egg. I practice with each platform weekly. Living at the time, in western Washington and having to commute through Tacoma and Seattle daily. Then, even watching the decline in respectable people living in my own neighborhood. I started living by the quote; “Better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have.”
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What are your most important scenarios for carrying a firearm.
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1) Attending activities at my House of Worship.
2) Walking my dog late at night.
^^^These are the only circumstances where I feel especially vulnerable without a firearm
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The fact that I may need one, sooner or later.
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When I'm awake I am carrying a gun, inside or outside my home. When I am asleep there is a gun nearby for when I awaken....I don't need a scenario.....
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Agree with walking the dog at night, my neighborhood has no street lights. Hopefully my German Shepherd can at least deter threats of the two legged variety.
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No scenario necessary. It’s my right to do so or not.
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Sevens said it for me. I rarely wear a gun, but I do like to have one close by.
I don’t think one should ever need to justify being armed. “Society” would like us to believe otherwise peaceful people are somehow “unbalanced” for wanting to have access to a weapon. I think people who sincerely believe that and encourage the sentiment are probably the ones who are unbalanced.
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Pretty much says it all right there. If it is always on your person, except in the shower or asleep in bed, it isn't an issue.
Some people can't imagine wearing pants with a belt on, wearing a wrist watch, wearing shoes, you name it, unless there is a "reason". Some just do it out of habit, never bother with needing a reason.
This isn't meant to sound snarky or "tactically elite", however you define it. Just habit.
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We will all assume you never get to the Post Office — where it is still as strict as New Jersey was.
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So you never saved anybody?
Evil is everywhere. I prevented somebody's daughter from being kidnapped/raped by a paroled rapist. I prevented somebody's two sons being abducted by a pedophile. I prevented a women being murdered by her ex (he was a good ole boy from Montana but when he was drinking he was evil).
Those were all on my days off. Plain clothes, plain car but a Colt .45 pistol.
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I carry or have handy all the time. The only thing different is when I'm going into Chicago. Then I change from a small hideout to a large frame of 9MM or 11MM. I'm told I look like a cop even when I'm just walking around minding my own business. Best to be ready and not need it....
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Bad people like fugitives can be anywhere. A Marine, his wife and two children were victims. He had a pistol in his glovebox but never used it to protect his family. I remember this Case very well.
"You can have anything you want in this world, as long as you know how to steal it." Epic Releasing has debuted a trailer for an action thriller titled Last Rampage, about the true story of a notorious prison break in Arizona in 1978. The film stars Robert Patrick as Gary Tison, a convicted murderer who escaped from prison with his cellmate, played by Chris Browning. While the sheriff, played by Bruce Davison, was hunting him down the two went on a murderous rampage.
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04-09-2024, 02:25 AM
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TIP: Always keep your Nightstand revolver loaded my friend.
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Its rather hard to clean the chambers till you take the empty casings out..
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04-09-2024, 02:34 AM
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04-09-2024, 02:57 AM
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That video has naught to do with your claim that concealed carriers are " grand standers ".
Connect the dots for me.
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To all who responded “All the time”
We will all assume you never get to the Post Office — where it is still as strict as New Jersey was.
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Concealed means concealed. I've never been searched in any Post Office in my life.
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All it takes is crossing paths with one jacked up nitwit, one total narcissist, one sociopath or a out of control roid at the wrong time. Unfortunately there are way more than one of all those varieties roaming the streets. While the odds of running into one or more varies some with your location and your life style, the odds of it occurring are never gonna be at zero.
The odds of me winning the lottery are about 300 million to one, yet I still occasionally buy a ticket when there is a big jackpot.
My life and that of those around me is my ultimate jackpot.
And here is an excellent example I just found in the lounge
Sickening shooting case near my house
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04-09-2024, 08:36 AM
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04-09-2024, 09:15 AM
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To all who responded “All the time”
We will all assume you never get to the Post Office — where it is still as strict as New Jersey was.
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Good catch, as should have said where ever legal. I do keep the pistol in the truck while briefly in the post office. I also do not carry in the health clinic/hospital or municipal office, both of which are posted.
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