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Old 07-25-2009, 11:49 AM
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On occasion, I have packed this combo into a (non-alcohol-serving) restaurant. I just put it in plain view either beside me or on the table, and it never gets a second glance. Now that Arizona has passed the restaurant carry bill (effective Sept. 30), I may use it some more. This is Dillon's "Plan B" planner look-alike, together with a Model 66-2 2 1/2". I think the gun is about the biggest revolver I can pack - a tad uncomfortable in an IWB holster, and not easy to sit with. As long as you don't FORGET the rig and leave it sitting, it's an option. Any thoughts?

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Thats a nice looking carry option.
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I'm a strong side scabbard guy myself.

Your solution to carry falls into the glove box, fanny pack category of carry.

Better than nothing but less than ideal.

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It's nice for storage, that's for sure. However, I would never use that to carry. I have enough loose things to deal with (keys, wallet) without having to worry about my gun book.
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I'm a strong side scabbard guy myself.

Your solution to carry falls into the glove box, fanny pack category of carry.

Better than nothing but less than ideal.

Emory
+1. You might want to keep a smaller gun on you and carry a bigger gun in there as a BUG. I wouldn't use that myself. I don't like off the body carry. Forgetting it, or even leaving it out of arm's reach for even an instant are not options IMO.
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:37 PM
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I remember when a female Albuquerque PD officer left her gun in a liquor-serving restaurant in her off-body "planner" carry. Not pretty.

I once thought that this would be a good means of carry, but - upon realizing how many times folks forget things - I no longer consider it so. YMMV.
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Totally agree with the posts above. A planner is good for a list of things to procrastinate about or some bloke's number who owes you some money. Not so good for the cartridge based insurance policy.
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Not to mention the difficulties of deploying the pistol.

Clearly it’s much slower, and it takes two hands.

You’re assuming a lot about the fight you’re getting into to think it’s a good option over a belt scabbard.

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I had looked over one of those planners as well but I prefer to have my weapon on my body and not just within arms reach. Not to mention, that some perp might snatch that thinking it is a notebook computer and really end up with a better score.
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Try offside apendix mexican carry. You will find a comfortable place there with the belt between the cyl and grip. A major drug smuggler once left the book with his whole opperation on the table at Denny's. He had about 15 years to think that one over. When I use the bathroom I put the gun in my pants beside my leg, never lay it down anywhere. 625-9 Mountain Gun Ace
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It looks nice and all, but personally I would also rather have a smaller, more comfortable gun always on my body than a large gun in a removed position.

Although this does make a good back-up gun plan.
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That would make a nice gift box for a gun but I would never carry one in it....
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"As long as you don't FORGET the rig and leave it sitting, it's an option. Any thoughts?"

It is just a question of when, not if, you are going to forget it someday. Get distracted by a cell phone, screaming kids in the next booth, whatever, and you could easily walk away without it. This will of course be a disaster. You will probably lose a nice gun to a bad guy, a good guy would turn it in...yeah, right. It also has some appeal to a casual thief, hmmm, I wonder what this guy has in that nice black case. Easy to snatch/grab and run with. As others have noted I would prefer to have a gun on my person, concealed but accessible. Just another 2 cents worth (I hope). (o;
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Agree with comments above that 1) too difficult to deploy if needed and 2) too great a likelihood to be distracted and leave your weapon behind. Too many good holster options available to make me want to carry any pistol in a planner.
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You work for Dillon, no?


IMHO, it's WAY too easy for someone to walk off with in a resturant setting. Not my cup of tea. Cute tho.
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Hi:
CCW= on body carry.
Attempts to ccw for different scenios has me carrying two weapons- strong side and cross draw.
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Doesn't having the thing handcuffed to your wrist attract any attention?
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Ohio doesn't allow carry into a liquor serving restaurant. Any other restaurant is fair game, concealed or open. I just carry the same way I would to any other place.

When I know I'm going to go to a liquor establishment (Chipotle or nicer local restaurants), I just carry my Smith 36 in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. Before I leave for my destination, I put holster and all in the glove box. That way, nobody at my destination sees me leave a firearm unattended. I just lock the glove box when I get out of the car.

I recently had a talk with a local cop about the "inducing panic" myth regarding open carry, etc. in Ohio. I asked him what he'd do if he saw me disarm and put my gun in the glove box while I was in the parking lot of the Chipotle across the street. I asked him if that was "inducing panic". He punted. His other option was to advise me to commit a felony. We both knew that arresting me for NOT committing a felony was going to be a BIG loser for him.
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I frequently carry a Glock 26 in a Coronado leather shoulder bag (Hell no, its not a purse Its a Man-bag) When you get out of your car, always...I say again, ALWAYS!! put your car keys in the off body device when you lock the door. If you have the habit of getting your keys in hand before you approach the vehicle as you should, you will dramatically reduce the chance of leaving the bag in the restaurant.

And yes, I always have a M442 in my pocket.

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Well...I've used a paper bag to carry a gun so I guess that would be ok. Not ideal though and I sure wouldn't make a habit of it.
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Especially a particularly greasy brown paper bag, after having mashed a single serving bag of Jay's potato chips in it. That in no way, shape, or form has ever camouflaged a hammerless (Centennial) revolver.
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