I have two PD guns. One is a 5903TSW from the Gwinnett County PD

The second is an Atlanta PD 4003TSW with decocker only.

If I am not careful, I could get caught up in collecting these types of guns.

A friend of mine has a Beretta 96D from the Minnesota State Police, and a couple revolvers, mostly S&W 28's from other states. All of them look well used, to put it mildly.

I have two former PD guns, a S&W 4586 from Bud's Gunshop, a former Newport News, VA gun, and an S&W 5906 from Puerto Rico. I'm not sure what department it's from, but I found a little card in the bottom of the blue box under the foam, and it's in Spanish, and says it was issued to officer O________ , badge #___. The 5906 is in excellent shape, very clean, but the 4586 just in good shape, lots of "character" on it.

I collect them, there's something about them that appeals to me. I was concentrating on Bposton PD guns, but have some from all over. I have a 4506 in mint shape with BPD xxx-xxx on the frame. It comes from Brownsville, Texas. Since it's not Boston, I'm putting it on the market.

Boston is going to .45's and Mayor Mumbles Menino has stated that ALL guns will be destroyed, they are too dangerous for civilians!

I have 3 police guns, one a Glock from Detroit (marked) and a 5906 police turn-in (can't find department) and my 28-2 that while not an official issue, I carried on duty occasionally.

My prize is a Victory model that letters to the Connecticut State Police in Hartford CT in 1943!

LIBTARD!

Anyone that wants to part or know where to find State Police, State Patrol and Highway Patrol marked firearms please let me know. Thanks.

The Louisiana State Police did not mark their Sigs with Property Control Numbers (PCN), a similar system to IL apparently, They now issue Glock 22 RTFs that are engraved with the "boot"- the shape of the state. I haven't had a chance to see the engraving closely yet. I retired just before I was to be issued a Glock. The Sigs, as well as all firearms in the inventory have PCNs, some have it engraved with a vibratory engraving tool, others had the PCN scratched into the stock; shotguns and wood stocked rifles mostly. Some have a metal plate or decal with the PCN attached to the weapon. Many of the firearms do not have the PCN attached to the firearm. Of the model 66s that were issued in the early eighties some were stamped LA State Police and some were not. My 2 1/2 inch is stamped and letters that it was stamped so at the factory. The 4 inch is not stamped but letters as shipping to the LSP Headquarters as well. Neither of these has the PCN attached to, or engraved onto it.

That is seriously sweet!

All my PD guns, Luger (East German) Walther (West Germany) Colt (Boston Police) 5906 (unknown dept) Glock (Detroit Police) Victory (CT State Police) M&P (Boston Police) M28-2 (my old Duty Gun)

Here are the one's I know about:

US Park Police
NJSP
Utah Highway Patrol....last I heard the issued Beretta Cougars
Navajo tribal police
And there were a couple in the Republic of CA also.

The FLorida Highway Patrol had a couple of marked Colt Pythons and S&W Model 27s I believe. The Beretta 96Ds have been ditched and replaced with GLOCK 37s in .45 GAP. K9 Troopers were (not sure if they still are) GLOCK 27s as a BUG.

Miami-Dade County Police, City of Miami, Homestead, Coral Gables, and the majority of the agencies in South Florida do not mark their guns. I do know though that City of Miami GLOCKs and Miami-Dade County Police GLOCKs are required to have the "Miami" Barrel.

If you want to know about that.... Click Here - Police Chief Magazine Artcile


Personally I don't wish to own a agency marked firearm unless it was mine or a family member's. Both my father and I are cops and we both carry of course on and off duty. I would like to be given the chance to either retire with my issue firearm or purchase it. I hope my father is given the same option. He's been doing it for 35 years and is close to finally calling it quits. The agency we both work for don't mark the department owned firearms. So in the end only I or my family would know it was a PD issued gun.

I enjoy collecting Military marked arms instead. M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, S&W Victory Revolvers, Mosin Nagants, Mauser, Enfields, etc....

The LEO side of collect is patches for me.

I saw one from Kentucky and it was a PPK/S and it sad KYSP

Interesting article, I hadn't heard that before.

I agree with your sentiment on PD marked guns too. I wouldn't want to own one that I hadn't carried.

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Those were carried from about 1996-2000. A lot of problems came with those and can be found pretty easy due to a lot of units not even wanting to buy them. They are marked with the agency seal on the slide behind the ejection port and it also have a property number on them. They were a backup/of duty. Most didnt carry on their side and just carried the 1076 10mm. After all what would you rather have? a .380 on your side or 10mm?

Didn't know someone issued a Walther PPK/S. Would have figured if a BUG is issued it would be a J frame or a Compact like a small frame Smith Auto.

We the smith model 60 was used since about 1968-69 and it was carried for almost 30 years. When you have a Smith 1076 you really cant form a weapons system. The walther ppk/s was then sold to units or surplus. There are about 1200 or so around. The walther was/is not a good duty gun.

I collect Virginia State Police service weapons and commemoratives. Includes the current Sigs, older Smith & Wesson autos and wheel guns, even the real old Colts. Plus Winchester and Remington riot guns, a Reising SMG and two Colt Thompsons. It's a serious hobby. I've even found two Remington 700 snipers but have not yet been able to pry them away from the owner.

I have a weapon that I could use some input on from those more knwledgable than I. First, it's a Colt DetSpecial 1st Generation. Please forgive me but I do love that little D frame. It has a very distinct and professionally done stamp of " INS " under the left grip panal on the frame. I am guesing that it may have been an Immigration and Naturalization contract gun many moons ago. Can anyone provide any input or any former agents from that agency here on the forum? I would appreciate any information or theories you all could provide. It's .38 special caliber. Factory walnut grips and shows nrmal wear for a weapon of that age and era. Thanks in asvance.

I collect military and police marked pistols and revolvers. Most of mine are from Texas but I've gotten some from Oklahoma, New York, etc. When I see them and the price isn't too high I pick them up. Some are rare, (1200 M-10 New York State Police, 357 Magnums) 520s are high and when you get into Registered Magnums you are talking big bucks. My favorites here are Texas Dept. of Public Safety M-28 and M-19 DPS marked and my Austin PD marked nickel 3 1/2 inch M-27. I think Military and Police marked firearms are an interesting area to colllect.

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Arkansas has currenlty moved to the GLOCK .45ACP models

North Dakota issues the Sig P226 Two-Tone chambered in 357 Sig.

I want one,

I have had to modify my quest...the sheer volume of police marked weapons out there is just too great to even begin to think of collecting them all. Consequently, I have narrowed my search to PSP weapons, as PA is my home state. I am looking for information on distinguishing features or characteristics for the 4" Stainless Ruger Security Six that was standard issue PRIOR to the NP3 Beretta 96. The Rugers are not specifically marked PSP, but they must fall into a serial range, have some unique feature or difference from non-issue revolvers.

Prior to the Ruger the PSP issued Colts, any information on those would be appreciated as well. If anyone knows of any PSP issue revolvers, pistols, rifles or shotguns please let me know.

I've got Model 39 ILSP 857, of which I'm quite proud considering its place in this whole S&W semi-automatic handgun thing.

Posted this picture of my Boston Police Department marked circa 1931 Colt Bankers Special. I know we are looking for State Police handguns here... Just thought you might be interested. Saw an earlier poster who I believe collects Boston marked guns. Bye the way, I have not lettered this one, but the markings match a couple that I have seen. Should say that "I believe that it is Boston PD".





Here is a shot of the backstrap

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Sorry, SPEEDGUNNER, I just read your post narrowing your field. Let me know if you want me to delete my post on the Boston Colt.

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Wow, this thread just keeps going. I just got a like on a 5 year old post.

Here is my NYSP marked 681. These guns are the reason the NYSP passed on the 520s:

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My 681 NYSP revolver...

TABC is likely the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

Strictly speaking CA does not have a State Police any more. They were merged into the Highway patrol approx. 15-20 years back. Political BS.

At one time Michigan issued Model 67s. This one was shipped Feb. 1977

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Actually, the 28-2 preceded the 681 ('79 - '81). The 681 was in service with that agency '81 - '90.

Hey all, glad to see this thread has legs...the quest continues. PSP has graciously transitioned from the Glock 37 in .45GAP to the Glock 21 in .45ACP to the present issue Sig P227R also in .45ACP. The Glocks are fairly readily available on GB and in shops here in PA. It is the older revolvers that are proving more difficult to track down. No PSP markings, so without an actual Trooper purchase you are basically flying blind. Supposedly the stainless Ruger Security Six, which predated the .40 Berettas were in a specific range, but I have been unable to narrow that range down to specific numbers.

I did manage to pick up a few shotguns with PSP property tags that were surplussed a couple of years ago, they are pretty neat.

Fun, ain't it?

The neatest of the Missouri guns was the FIVE INCH Combat Masterpiece. Those were not marked at all, but if you find one, the chances are very good it was a Missouri gun as no other agency has been disclosed that issued the 5 inch CM. Illinois had the 5 inch K38, but due to barrel and frame profile, those are not the same gun. Far more of the Illinois variation than the Missouri variation.

To the OP: If you ever get one you think is a Missouri gun, it can be confirmed by the serial number as we have records.

Here's a Colt Official Police issued to the NJSP in 1931. I like the fact that the backstrap was factory engraved by Colt, and not by a Division Armorer. I just have to find some nice, used prewar grips for it.

do it officially, or with any purpose really, but these have found their way here.
KCPD Non Reg Magnum

Reg. Magnum 4752 Evansville IN. Board of Public Works & Safety, 1939

A NYSP 681

I had a 59 that was marked A.C.S.D. but I never did figure out where it was from.
I have an Ithaca 37 riot gun from the Owenboro, KY PD. It is one of these.
I think the pistol gripped one.

There may be a couple o' more around here.

Ned

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Yep, that's correct. The 520s were supposed to become the new standard issue instead of the 28-2s, until someone at the NYSP found out about the 681s. The 520 order was canceled and the 681s were ordered instead.

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Your NYSP 681 photo looks a lot like a NYSP 65-3 that's been re-fitted with a shortened barrel. The NYSP 65-3s, all with three inch barrels, were issued to their BCI (detectives/investigators).

About a year ago, I picked up a HK USP 45 LE trade in. ATI was selling them to FFL dealers. It's not marked anywhere who it belonged to, & the only reason I purchased it was because it was CHEAP. While the outside of the gun has minor holster wear, the inside of the gun is MINT. Shoots like a dream! But because it has minor exterior wear, I don't mind carrying it, as it will not live in the safe. GARY

A bit off topic, but I regret passing on a Glock 23 marked Teton County Sheriff's Department. Teton County is the home of Jackson Hole and right next to Yellowstone Park.

It appears that barrel has been cut back. Notice the Smith & Wesson stamping is off center. Pretty good indication it's the original barrel that someone cut off.

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I have a West Virginia State Police marked S&W 4566, it's the one they had right before the new Melonite finished 4566's. On the left side of the slide from front to back it has the S&W Logo,and then West Virginia State Police & the WVSP Emblem. On the front part of the right side of the slide it has West Virginia State Police & right under that it says, "85 Years of dedicated service 1919-2004. They got these in 2004, and retired them around 2011 I think. I already have one of the new WVSP Melonite finished S&W 4566's lined up. so when they change out again I'll have 2 of them. I also have a West Virginia State Police S&W M&P AR-15 that has West Virginia State Police markings along with their patch logo, and it's brand new in the case.
My buddy actually had one of the West Virginia State Police 40cal S&W Pistols they had right before they went with the 4566 that I have. It had little WVSP Badge's in the Grips, and had the West Virginia State Police on the slide as well. But he sold it without telling me , and if I knew he wanted to sell it I'd have bought it for sure, Then I'd have the last 2 WVSP Pistols, and when I get my Melonite I'd have the last 3. I'm not sure what Model the WVSP 40Cal was, but I do know it was a S&W 40Cal...

Let me give you the details on why I avoid PD guns that are marked with the PD name. I worked for a gun dealer in Palm Beach County Florida, & a retired deputy came in to sell his duty Glock 22. When the deputies retire, they are allowed to keep their weapons, which are marked by Glock with the county name. He had plenty of personally bought guns, & was going to use the $ to get a carry gun for his wife. We took it in, & a week later, someone wants to buy it, but is concerned that if he gets pulled over, the deputy will think the gun is stolen. I told him to simply have the bill of sale with him at all times. So of course, he fails the BG check, but appeals, & a week later comes in with a letter allowing him to purchase it. He takes it home, & of course gets pulled over a week later, & yes, shows the cop the bill of sale, because they assume the gun is stolen. The gun owner drives a nice 70's Impala 8 feet in the air with 24" rims. The cop gives him back the gun, but a week later we get a visit from someone in the sheriff's dept asking why we bought the gun. We were then told we are not allowed to buy guns that are marked with the county crest, & next time to tell the deputy whose selling it that if he doean't want the gun to turn it in to the SO. We were then instructed to call the customer in, give him a brand new Glock 22, take the old one back, & return it back to the SO, who will then pay us for the new gun that was given to the customer. Of course the customer again failed the back ground check,but he again appealed, & came in with another letter allowing him to buy anything he wanted w/o us having to make another phone call. The Sheriff's office then sent a note to all LE personnel that if they had a pistol that was given to them when they retired they could keep it for life, but never sell it. If they no longer wanted it, they had to turn it in to the SO. So after seeing this, no SO marked guns for me. My LE HK has no such markings, & was sold by the PD, not the deputy. GARY

If the SO let their retirees keep the gun then the SO relinquishes all control over the gun. They have no say over what happens to the gun once it leaves their possession. It's no longer theirs. Who ever from the SO came in and told you that was full of beans and hot air (to use acceptable language on the forum). You should have told him to go pound sand and have a nice day.

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Not if we wanted to continue to do business in their county. But it hasn't happened again, since the LE personnel were all warned too. GARY

My point is there was no legal basis for what the SO actions.
You made this statement "We were then told we are not allowed to buy guns that are marked with the county crest, & next time to tell the deputy whose selling it that if he doean't want the gun to turn it in to the SO. We were then instructed to call the customer in, give him a brand new Glock 22, take the old one back, & return it back to the SO, who will then pay us for the new gun that was given to the customer. "
They have no legal authority to tell your shop you cannot buy a gun that is legally owned by another. They have no legal authority to tell a shop they have to "give him a brand new Glock". They have no legal authority to tell the shop to "take back the old one". The SO's actions were totally improper and without any legal authority. And they have no legal authority to stop future sales when they're the ones committing the illegal and improper intimidation.
The shop owner should have made a real stink in that situation. And still told the SO person to pound sand. They were blowing smoke and the shop owner didn't know enough not to believe them.

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I believe departmental purchases may sign a contract that they cannot sell the guns which were purchased through this contract. I know glock can sell you bottom dollar without taxes.

I have a Model 36 marked "MASS STATE POLICE", that letters as being shipped to MSP Framingham, MA.
They had Model 10's and Model 65's also marked the same way

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That's what started this mess. The retiring deputy broke his contract with the county to not sell his duty weapon. But this will not happen again, as we were made aware of the county's policy. However, we do buy PD guns, but directly from the PD. At the last local gun show, I sold 2 MINT Glock 30SF with night sites for $419 each. No markings from what dept. A few months before we got a bunch of 5906's, & model 15 revolvers from some state prison system. The guns were in fair shape on the outside, but nice & clean inside. They all had asset #'s engraved in the guns, but again no crests identifying where they came from. Any guns we get from PD's that have identifying crests, must be removed. We had hundred's of 5906's, & 15's, but a few short months later, they are all sold. We also got some 3rd gen 45's that say tactical on the slide, & they are all DAO, but it's taking longer to sell them. GARY

If it happens it's an individual dept policy. It sure isn't the policy of gun manufacturers and most agencies. In my career while commanding R&D I dealt with S&W, Glock, H&K, Colt, and Remington. None of those companies have any such restrictions.
He said that dept let their officers keep their guns when they retire. That is very common with a lot of PDs. With my own agency we were allowed to buy our guns when we transitioned to new models and when we retired we were able to purchase our duty weapons. That is very common for a lot of places around the US.
Where do you think a lot of these PD guns in this very thread come from? Eventually the retiree is going to die. Surely no one thinks any dept is going to track down every retiree and try to find out which family member ended up with the retiree's gun. That's not even realistic to think that. A lot of depts have no idea where their retirees are after they leave the dept or whether they're alive or dead. Once the agency relinquishes ownership of the firearm they have no say over what happens to it. It's no longer theirs to say.

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