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I guess its ten bucks to the house.
Here's a great article about the Sheridan Knocabout.
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I'll see your bet and raise ya $Gozillion
I inherited this piece in 2010 from my stepdad who passed, who in turn, inherited from his dad. The only paperwork on it is the original registration from Sear's and Roebuck from 1965 with his 2 thumbprints. It is in nice condition, with all of the original blue.
The one major issue is the ramp feed is cracked and broke off, which causes it to jamb during case extraction.
The story goes......When dad was a wee boy, his dad took him in a field in the dead of winter to do a little target practice, on a very cold day. He went full auto right off the bat, and the extreme heat buildup was very quick on a cold gun, and that caused the crack.
Yessiree, this one has the "HAPPY" lever.....along with the 2.. 11 round mags.
What I need, is to find a really good gunsmith/machinist, who would be willing to make either the whole barrel assembly, or the little ramp feed, which appears to be a separate piece and slides in the barrel. And who could be discreet about it.
This piece is a family heirloom as well as a collectors item.....Im very proud that Pops entrusted me to have it..
As far as the $10 goes, aaah, you keep it....Its just nice to see someone else out there that has one......
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A pre-war Arisaka complete with mum and matching bolt. My gunsmith says it is the finest example he's ever seeen.
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A Enfield L39A1 7.62 NATO match rifle, built by Enfield in 1972. Less than 1500 made.
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A pre-war Arisaka complete with mum and matching bolt. My gunsmith says it is the finest example he's ever seeen.
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Ive seen a few like yous is described but, the only reason I never bought one is because (then, and dont know what it would be now?) a box of 20 cartridges went for about $100-and that was 20 years ago.
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posted here before and doing so again:
First the info as given to me by a USMC Historian/researched by the name of Dieter Stenger:
[IMG]This is all I have left of the 2-pages of info I was sent, the 2nd page is missing in action due to moving numerous times since I received this info. Verbatim. The rifle I have, based on what the article said, is super-rare. Apparently people know of it, but there are no photos of actual collector pieces. Here is the article and a good translation from the German: The Mauser 98 w/ Large Capacity Magazine. Once the "rate of fire" had a decisive impact at infantry level engagements, it was found that the somewhat encumbering stripper-clip loaded 5-round magazine did not always suffice for every situation. During the inter-war period, the solution was found in lengthening the magazine after the original magazine cover was removed and configured in its place. Through this modification, the G98 had a higher magazine capacity of 25 rounds, although it required loading by the conventional method. The lengthened magazine, however, was impractical when firing the weapon in the prone position. The outcry for a quickly changeable and higher capacity magazine (more than 5-rounds) was quickly heard after the onset of WWII. Studies and experiments conducted by the Heeres-Waffennamt, albeit the net result were a few experimental models. Several examples with the large capacity magazines are circulating in collector circles: however, are magazines are of well-known automatic weapon origination. The magazine configurations in carbine (K98) were improvised or field expedient modifications. No one has been able to offer original documentation for the modifications. The only authentication for the modification was found in the Waffenamt Device protocol of April 1944. It depicted one example, built and modified by a Mauser firm., of a 10-round removable magazine that was attached to a modified (K98) designed for experiments with a sniper scope. As early as March 42, the question about a removable magazine had been addressed by way of a letter from the Army General Staff to the Department of the Army (Heeresamt). "Unit requests for a weapon with a higher than 5-round capacity magazine (removable magazine) is expected. However, the requisition of such a magazine would place the greatest pressure on the already over-burdened industry and delay the current developments for the completion of a semi-automatic weapon and a proposed machine-carbine. Since both these weapons already have more than a 5-round capacity, it is unproductive to produce yet another removable magazine." Some of these models may have found their way to the Russian where they fell into Soviet hands. More than likely, the weapons were sold to the NVA or VC to assist in fighting the Americans during Vietnam. Dieter recommended me to contact Richard Law who was the author of Backbone of the Wehrmacht. Read more:[/IMG]
Ive only had one nay-sayer on my rifle, and like we all believed--he didnt know what the hell he was talking about. Ignore the bottom rifle, that's just my Krag and not part of this discussion.
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A rare item to be sure. The US also developed , but never adopted 20rd mags for the 1903 and 1917 rifles.
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Anyone have a Elgin Cutlass?
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OK now it's time to get serious.. no one owns one of these.. there is only one.. but I technically own the pic I took at the JM Browning Museum in Ogden UT.
But for real... I bet no one has a Savage Model 1907 .32ACP with the metal grip panels. They made about 200 of these before switching to the plastic./ rubber panels.
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OK know it time to get serious.. no one owns one of these.. there is only one.. but I technically own the pic I took at the JM Browning Museum in Ogden UT.
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Notice the lack of a thumb safety on that 1910 prototype!
So much for JMB designing it to be carried cocked & locked!
And more than one was made.
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Well, I will add to this thread that has been brought back to life. It's true, threads never die, they just hibernate for a while.
Dragunov TIGR, a sportsterized version (with .mil furniture now) of the Soviet Dragunov sniper rifle. Chambered in 7.62x54r. What ever anyone tells you, they are not a beefed up AK. They were designed a little differently. When it immigrated to America, it had a thumbhole stock and the barrel was chopped down a bit, eliminating the flash suppressor. Not a lot of them made it to America.
This (poor) pic has all of its parts, original stock, .mil polymer stock and .mil wooden stock set, along with other parts.
While not as exotic, or pretty as some of the guns in this thread, it is mine, and there aren't a lot of them floating around.
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Check it out! So close, but octagon to round bbl, and mine has a different triggerguard, rats!
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Ive seen a few like yous is described but, the only reason I never bought one is because (then, and dont know what it would be now?) a box of 20 cartridges went for about $100-and that was 20 years ago.
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I think this one is pretty special.
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I got on I know you do not have'. 1870's vintage peabody single shot carbine in 56-50 rimfire. Nice bore and action works as well as it did when it was made. Planning on getting the breechblock converted to center fire and already have cases. Frank
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My dad brought these back after the war. He told me he liberated them from a German officers barracks.
I took the percussion pistol to school one time for show and tell when I was a kid. My fifth grade teacher thought it was so neat, she asked if we could display it at the next open house, which we did. Different mentality back then.
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"Liberated Them"...... HAHA.........GO DAD!!!!!!!!
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rodcraft, that pistol was made to chamber .22 rimfire blanks and also "tear gas" rounds. I remember firing a whole "magazine" of the tear gas rounds in our living room. Was kind of stinky but that's about all. As a kid I owned two or three of them.
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They're referred to as "Scheintodt" ("Appearance of death") pistols.
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Old bear, here are a couple more pictures to that gun and another. Here`s the story. 40 years ago when I worked at lockheed there was a older man that became my mentor as a collector. Ura "Duke" Duvall. If he were still alive he would be in his 90s. He was a big time collector. His home was about a 100 miles from the plant. He used to travel on secret projects for the company around the world, but now was stationed where I worked. We got talking guns and he gave me that pistol to soften me up and rent him a room. He would work tons of OT, and go home about every two weekends, get a new satchel of guns to show me when he would return. That gun probley was made in belgum or spain. Duke thought it might had been used as a "boarding pistol" by a pirate as you can see two holes for probley a clip to wear the gun in a sash or belt.
The colt single action was also his and once featured on a "Guns" magazine cover. The clyinder was sawed in two with the back half being converted to .22 lr. A 22 sleeve is in the barrel set back to look like .45 in front and extends through the front part of the clyinder. Dukes brother in law, "al capone " that owned Kings Gun Works in LA converted the gun. Duke used to also work there part time polishing guns for refinish etc.
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I worked around the corner from King's. Parking was a B''''h.
No pics yet but I picked up a MINT A. Francotte VeloDog just yesterday.
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How about a A.H. Fox AE 20 gauge with a factory beavertail fore end and single selective trigger.
might loose this bet but a Allen & Thurber Grafton Mass. Dragoon
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Modern pistol that is fairly rare.
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I have a "top this" to add.
I went to school with Janet Unertl in grades K-6, John's daughter. John Unertl and his family lived near us in a small house.
I guess they started to spend money around 1961, that is when they moved.
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Well, this thread has risen from the dead and the search says I haven't posted on it so I guess I'll play...
Nothing ancient but I've been told that as few as 600 were made. I bought it specifically for concealed carry but as long as The Hero of Ruby Ridge is Sheriff San Diego will be a "Ha ha fat chance of issue now go sit down and shut up, peasant" county.
Never fired S&W 4536. I paid a stupid amount of money for it. It's a heavy little beastie.
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It appears that this thread has drifted a little from guns you have, so here is a gun I had...but no longer own......
(This may open a whole new can of worms.... )
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My turn!
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Sorry no pix but I have an H&R Garden Gun .44 shotgun and a few of the shells that are brass-cased with a wooden tip. Probably not too rare.
A rare one I wished I owned was the '03 Mark I with a Pedersen Device that showed up with its owner one day at our club. I asked if he had ever fired it, and he said "Sure! Want to try it?" So a couple of us got to run a magazine of the super-rare little .30 caliber rounds through it. We laid out a big tarp to catch the brass. Recoil like a .22.
Rare Pedersen Device with Metal Case and U.S. Model 1903 Springfield Mark I Rifle
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Not too many of these made. Stevens Model 200 pump shotgun,
mfg'rd for perhaps 2 years,,maybe 3 depending on which expert has the podium at the moment.
Only made in 20ga and all were chambeed for 3 inch case. Quite a thing for a repeating shotgun in 1911 or 12.
No fancy grades offered as far as Factory literature says,,but you could get Mod or even CYL choke if you wanted. Standard is Full choke.
Uses a very short breech bolt to keep the receiver from being overly long to handle the 3" case. A blade type cover slides into plae to cover the rear portion of the port when the bolt is locked. It also acts as a shell guide in loading the round off the carrier.
MArlin used something similar to this in their hammerless pumps brought out in the 20's.
Light weight thing at 5# 13oz unloaded. I've never put any 3" magnums through it, both in deference to the age of the gun and to me. 3/4 and 9/19oz loads do fine at skeet.
A short spanner wrench hides in the front end of the magazine tube. Unscrew the mag cap and the wrench is attached. It's used to TD the shotgun at the knurled ring at the front of the frame. 1/3 turn releases the bbl & forarm assembly to be pulled stright forward and off of the frame.
Fun gun to shoot. Something older & different which is what I like,
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The RG3 is still available in Germany. But not that really old one you own.
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Or how about a 2mm pinfire pistol.
This one have a mouse on it's "kill list"
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Believe it or not: Here in Germany you need a carrying permit to keep these pistols with you. Yes indeed for the key chain.
I have a 2mm pinfire pistol too. We call it Berloque-pistol.
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This is one I wasn't very aware of until a couple of years ago. It's a Stevens Visible Loader pump .22 LR rifle. I found the mechanism fascinating. These had a bad reputation for unreliability, but this one works just fine. It dates from around 1920.
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Yep, I said 22 long rifle! This is an 1886 vintage Colt Lightning that was rebuilt by gunsmith George Matthews in 1953 to be a personal carry piece. He lined the barrel and cylinder chambers, built a new recoil shield and firing pin, reshaped the grip to resemble a Colt SAA and added Ivory stocks. Once all of the mechanical work was done, he re-casehardened the frame and rust blued the barrel, cylinder and grip frame. The gun is still in very good condition both cosmetically and mechanically. Probably the only 22 Long Rifle Colt Lightning in existance!
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Made by Udo Anschutz for the 1928 Olympics. Maybe not so rare; Ralph T. has a pair of them. But I have a case and spare parts!
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