the one i had was acid etched with w miguel swanwick i guess it was his, i was told that it went to nam, yea im still kicking my self! if i told you the rest of the story you wouldnt belive me anyway.

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One more interesting tidbit about the 14 in the OP. My friend's last name was Lewis. At some point in his life he tried to engrave his last name into the blade with an electric engraver. He spent 3 hours on the project and barely got "Lew" etched into it.

Been in Orlando 17 years.. live about 15 miles from the Randall Shop.. keep saying "I gotta go, just to see it.." maybe this thread will get me motivated.....

One of these days I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy one..Just because.. They are fairly easy to come by in this town.. but the prices are as steep as anywhere

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Hey Sal, glad to see you weighed in. Hope the grandson aint wore the blue off that 29 teething on it

I have had a LOT of knives...many of them more expensive than a Randall, but I have always been infatuated with Fla. steel. Guess once you hold one you will know what I mean.

Curtis.. Your generosity will be remembered for a loong time....
I'm sure you can figure out who I'll buy the Randell for

Wadda 'ya mean I can't play with MY lettered Model 29 yet!!

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DAV in honor of POP

NOW that is CUTE!!!! Maybe you can take him to Germany some day

If I may, let me suggest you wait a few months. They are just about done remodeling the old Bo Randall home and will be moving the knife museum over there. Right now it's crammed into a couple rooms in the shop and it will be a lot more enjoyable in new quarters. BTW, it is a stunning collection of cultery and in fact the Scagel's there just take your breath away.

The shop itself will shock you. You take a one lane road a couple hundred yards off of SOBT, through an old orange grove, and around a bend is this old block BD house(BD is Before Disney for you non-Floridians). That little place is where some of the finest knives ever made are produced.

BTW, sure is a cute grandson ya' got there.

Bob

Well this thread popped up.. I had forgotten about it.. it's about two years later..

I had just finished a deal for another 5" 27.. ( Go figure) Last January
When I turned down another aisle.. and this RANDALL stopped me in my tracks..

It took 4 trips back to the table for some serious
" Hunkerin' " as Iggy calls it.. but it ended up following me home..

RANDALL #1-7 with Ivory.. ( oh yeah and the 27 too)

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Oh my....what a knife!!!

I bought my first Randall in in 1961 while I was in the Marines, It took a walk when we went to Cuba in 1962, some sailor wanted it more than I did and took it out of my seabag on the way back thru the canal.

cool thread to keep going

any more stories???

I have 2 Randalls that I have used quite a bit.

The first is a 6" No5. I have used it on deer, wild pigs, black bear, caribou, and elk.

The second is a Trout and Bird. It has the SS steel blade. I have used it on a lot of small game, several different birds, duck, dove quail, grouse, and deer and pigs.

You have to be careful when gutting a deer or pig with the Trout and Bird, as the sharpened back clip will cut the guts. But the sharpened back clip is great for disjointing bones on small game.

I find the Randall steel to be very good. I can tell little difference between the tool and the stainless steel as far as edge holding and ease of sharpening.

While Randalls do have a lot of Collector appeal, they are great using knives as well.

I have some others I have carried, but I have not actually cut any thing with them. ie a No 14, bought for "survival" and an 8" No1, bought as a Fighter.

I find all the Randalls to be very well balanced and they handle very good when you have to gut and butcher several animals in a single day.

I have used this one (picture when it was new) several times:




Along with other high end knives that I own:
From Horsehead Creek Knives: Fire-blued Damascus skinner with dyed, stabilized burl handle:


From Bob Ham: Bird and trout knife with stag handle...gifted to me by my hunting partner's dad:




Horsehead Creek Knives: The 3 Amigos! I commissioned these three for myself, my hunting partner and his dad. Teardrop Damascus with ram's horn handle:


These were too well made for their intended purpose to languish as safe queens.

Wow, this thread went dormant for a long time. A lot of water has passed under the bridge since we worked it last. I just do what I always do, walk gun shows and see what there is that I feel is grossly underpriced or so rare I may never see it again. Often its a knife or two.

A while back I picked up another carving set (6-10) I think. Its different from the real modern ones and even has a little plate on the stag so it can be inscribed. A buddy dates it to 1971, give or take. That from the way its put together. About 20 years ago a knife purveyor (slickster who resells knives) had a pair of carving sets. I had 2 boys and figured that would be a really good wedding present for them some day. But then I gave away one of them to another guy as a wedding present. One day watching my youngest fumble at trying to clean strawberries, I just gave up. So a neighbor who I like was getting married a year ago. They had a list of things they needed and a carving set was on the list. I already had it so I "saved" money on a wedding present and gave it to them. Guess it took his new FIL to explain just how good it was.

And one day I was walking (stumbling really) through a big gun show and in a glass case was not just a Randall, but one in a H H Heiser sheath. Too good to pass, I bought it. Its a 1947 vintage 4-6. It'll do. Yes, its well worn, but I don't care at all. And I found a long #10 Saltwater fisherman with its sheath. There was another priced the same without a sheath. Go figure. If you can only have one, it needs to have a place to be stored! We'll wait for the cringes.... No, it hasn't rusted yet.

Somewhere in the bowels of my collection is a Solingen Fighter. Should have bought the Vietnam Vets model the same day, long ago.

I've separated the set of 4 individual steak knives. Two of them travel with us on vacations. We threw in with a bunch of scoundrels who have taken to cookin' steaks out in the hills. Guess it won't happen this year in Colorado since they even banned cook fires. But two of the knives along with full place settings of Momma's sterling ride along. If you've got to eat, you might as well eat in style. I always enjoy watching other people try to eat with a plastic knife and fork while we're dining with sterling and a Randall.

The idea that any use of a Randall hurts its price can work for or against you. If you're buying it with some use already, it doesn't hurt you one bit. A decent quality knife should out last you by a good margin. My dad bought a Marbles back in 1925 when he was 14. It cleaned literally thousands of bunnies, tree rats, quail and pheasants, and who knows how many crappie and blue gills, plus a few bass. He used it until he died in 1980. I got custody of it for a while, but then passed it along to my oldest son a while back. Too much responsibility for someone like me. Let him tend to it. Same thing happened to his guns.

The guy who sold me the steak knives included 4 sheaths for 7-4s. I have no idea what to do with them, but I'm sure not going to put steak knives in them. Guess I can put my trout and bird knife in one of them.

So a while back I was reading some Kentucky laws. Its OK to carry a pocket knife or an ordinary hunting knife. Ya think the 1949 Randall in its Heiser sheath is "ordinary" enough? Guess if I get busted, I'd better hope there are no knife collectors on my jury.

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Here is the only one I own. I have not used it yet......maybe someday:

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Miss Buddies crsides & fat tom

Bk43 knows what he is talking about.

My opinion is, use em' for what they're intended.

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Note: told this story recently, and if I posted it here, just skip on down to the next one.

I have a hard copy pic of this knife, a 12-9 Randall Sportsman Bowie, but can't find a digit copy. Bought it at a local estate auction in upstate SC. One of those first Fri night in the month things. There were two bowies, one marked Randall made and the other not marked. There was knife making equipment in the auction too, so I figure the guy liked his Randall so much he decided to make his own. The unmarked Randall was in a Randall sheath, the Randall was in a homemade sheath. The only thing I knew about Randall's is that they were way too expensive for me and you had to wait 2 yrs to get one (early 90's .. the good ole days).

Decided that any bowie was worth $150 or so, so that was my max. At $95 the bidding stopped, I owned the real Randall. Then I had to buy the other one to get the sheath and it cost $105. Carried it to gunshow experts, they had never seen one with that hilt.... what do you want for it? Its a fake, what do you want for it? Carried it to the custom blade show in Vegas, wrong show. They only wanted to talk home made stuff.

Finally sent the knife to Randall and Gary Randall sent me a nice letter back with the knife. It was one of four ever made back in 1959-60 with an S curve nickel hilt, ranger handle and skull crusher cap. Handle was Manila or Phillipino ??? ebony.

So Joined the Randall knife Society, went to the next meeting in Atlanta at the Blade show. Met Pete Hamilton the shop foreman and he introduced me to Tom Clinton, one of the top collectors in the day. I could tell from the letter and Pete's reaction that it was a special knife. Tom saw it, said how much, I said I think its a $3000 knife. He turned to his wife and said "Honey, hand me my money".

We had quite a crowd by then, and a guy behind me asked if I had any other Randalls. told him I had a fake one, and he paid me $200 for it.

This covered a lot of bad deals I made in my day.

Charlie

I have had three Randalls. I purchased all at the factory. My 1st was a model 14 (1968). Then a model 2 (1969) and model 10 for the wife.

I used then pretty hard. The M-14 was stolen but I still have the M-2..

These days I carry one of Bill Harsey's D2's.

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Charlie,

Very cool story! I remember good ole' Tom Clinton well. He was at every Great Western Gun Show in southern CA. Before gun shows were banned from the LA County fairgrounds in Pamona maybe 15 + years ago.

Bought my first Randall from him, 2nd one down:

# 8 Bird & Trout, old catalog grind
#1 5" All Purpose Fighting Knife
#1 5" All Purpose Fighting Knife
Custom stainless Bowie grind, one-of-a-kind dad gave me



My son special ordered the first one, the #8 for my birthday and waited a year. Couldn't order finger grips because not offered on its short handle. Had to add them myself:

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S&WCA #819

I picked this 12-9 up last year. I believe that it is 80's vintage. Obviously not used.

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Corripe Cervisiam

To answer the original post. Yes.
Model 5, 4". carried most days.

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I don't really get buying new production knives and looking at them. My one and only Randall is an antler handled trout & bird, and it has dressed numerous fish, along with some game. The steel is stained but I don't care. I bought it with full intentions of using it.

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Geoff. Since 1960.

I do. I have a model 1, 15 and 4

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Cheers, Charles
SWCA #2442

Hi:
USE A RANDALL ?? HECK NO ! I secure them in a safe and there they stay forever !
Seriously I have never been able to afford one. Besides "Real Men" use "El Cheapos" purchased at Flea Markets for 5.00 and can never be sharpen. Besides if I had a sharp knife I would likely cut myself.

Sorry! My old brain mixed up Randall and Russell.
(At least they both start with "R" and end in "L".)

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Dean
SWCA #680 SWHF #446

Yeah, I think A.G. Russell bought use of the Morseth name.
Not to be confused with Canadian Dean Russell, who designed the knives made by Russell-Grohmann in Nova Scotia.

My brother gave me a beautiful Randall 5 4 several years ago and it lives in my desk drawer. I have never carried it because my hunting knife is a G. W. Stone "Diana" (s.n. 93) that has cleaned more deer and other game than I can add up.

I bought the Diana from cranky old George himself back in the mid 1960's. I fell in love with it when I picked it up but the price was $125. My wife and I were recently married and there were lots of things that we needed more than me spending $125 on a hunting knife, but she gave me the OK and I've never regretted it. Sometimes we hear someone say that a gun or other tool "just comes alive in my hands" The Stone "Diana" does that!

Bob

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Hello everyone!
I recently purchased a knife Randall model 10-5".
This knife I really like. I bought it already in use in ebay.com. I take it with me on a fishing trip, hiking in the forest, using the kitchen. He really liked my girlfriend. Now, I think about buying a model 14 or 16, but has not yet decided which of steel - O-1 or stainless.
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Not using a Randall is like locking a beautiful young woman up behind closed doors. Or having a Colt Bisley and never shooting it. Some thing are meant to be used in order to be fully appreciated!

Here's my Model 23 that I re-handled in buffalo horn, along with my OM Ruger in 45 Colt (porcupine got to the knife one night). My usual and preferred hunting rig!

Dick, if you don't post a picture of that folder I'm going to have ask the mods to give you multiple dings for cruelty to members.

In high school we had a name for girls who acted that way...

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Oh well, what the hell.

Had some friends with the 20TH GROUP(SF) laughing when I was talking Randalls!They had a jump at Avon Park......afterwards you saw a lot of troop walking & searching the drop zone!One guy had a Randall that he jumped with......he lost it while jumping......never found it! (Sniff....I told you it was sad)!My bud said......NOBODY ever jumped with a RANDALL again!
Jim

I carried my Randell #2 & #14 in the field, and also had several near-loses. The leather sheath is pretty, but the strap is not really secure. Kydex is much more practical and when heated it will form a real good seal on the hilt.

Along the same lines. Randell's are great knives, I've had 4,, but I also have others. Chris Reeves & Bill Harsey use CPM S-30V for both the Special Forces Yarborough knife, and several others. It's probably the best steel for hard use on the market. The sheath is also much more secure.

My next purchase will be a Yarborough. I don't need one, but us Regimental FOG's are jealous that the kids get one for graduation these days. The FOG version has a different serial sequence, but is exactly the same as the issues ones..

Choices, Choices, Choices.. Buy one of each??

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I'll bring it along to a Louisville show and you can both look at it and handle it! If you ever drive over to Lexington, we'll be there the day after Thanksgiving for the Kenny Woods show. I think the Louisville show is the weekend before Christmas.

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Guy Clark used one.
And even wrote a song about it.

I have only looked at them and read ads in the magazines years ago.
Have a big Browning, a medium size Kershaw and several Buck knives.
No Randalls.

This is the only one I have.

I have a Md. 26 in stag with a custom end cap that my brother purchased in the 80's from A.G. Russell, he used is as his hunting knife for a number of years. When he moved on to the happy hunting ground I picked it up and have used it ever since. Great knife, and always a good conversation starter.

That said, if you can find the Blackjack copies of a Md. 1 you can have use a great knife without feeling like you are flushing money every time you put in on your belt.

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I have just one and I do not know the model number. It does have five or six options. The original owner was Bille H Redburn.

He was quite an interesting and colorful individual. I will paste a piece about him. His life is a wonderful story. It is from an earlier thread. Enjoy it.






RBScrim posted the following on Billie Redburn some time ago. This might give you a little background on the man and the knife. I hope RB (Rick Bowles) doesn't mind me re-posting it. It's a great read.

I wrote the following article for the Randall Knife Society a few years ago. This article presents a man for whom I had the utmost respect. It also relates how I was introduced to Randall Made knives over forty years ago. That day over Redburn's would begin my involvement with Randall knives. In 1981 I began doing scrimshaw on and for Randall knives that has lasted thirty-three years. I became a Randall knife dealer two years later and I've been fortunate to have designed two knives that carry the iconic Randall trademark.

REDBURN

Randall Made knives have a mystique, history and following that, in my experience, is unprecedented. Time after time I hear folks describe their emotions regarding Randall knives with a reverence that is usually reserved for a beautiful woman or a new born child. I experienced this for myself back in the 70s while visiting an old gun collector friend of mine. Then 60 years old, give or take, Billie Redburn was a tall slender man with a full head of white hair and a matching beard and handlebar mustache. He was proud of the fact that he still wore the same size jeans that he had worn in high school. Like one of his idols from an old western movie, Billie was always dressed the same outfit. His 20X silverbelly Stetson was worn and dirty and sported a rattlesnake band. The remainder of his standard apparel was as you would expect, plaid shirt with yokes front and back, Wrangler jeans and handmade boots from a small shop in Texas. The boots were cowhide, not some exotic critter but they did have custom silver toe and heel caps. His hand tooled belt carried a silver tip, keepers and buckle. The waistband on his right side always, and I do mean ALWAYS, bulged with an ivory handled pre-war National Match Colt .45 auto. Any handgun that Billy would or could possibly ever carry was equipped with ivory grips like General Patton, another hero of his. In the watch pocket of his jeans rested his model 110 Buck folding hunter which, like his guns, had been fitted with ivory scales by knifemaker P.J. Tomes. Billie was an old school collector. He only added to his collection, he never sold. He still had the first gun he'd ever bought, a martially marked Artillery model single action army Colt that he had pulled from a pickle barrel full of surplus handguns and for which he paid five dollars. He also still had his first "real" knife. In his kitchen, next to his sink was an oversized wood cutting board. Above this, firmly stuck to a magnet that had been secured between the cabinets was a six inch belt knife with a stag handle. As my hand was uncontrollably drawn to the seemingly misplaced tool I asked Billie "what the hell kind of kitchen knife is this"? That's a Randall knife, he replied, in a tone of respect that, prior to this, I had only heard him use while oiling his 1911 A1 SINGER government model .45. I pried the carbon blade from the magnet and as the right handed stag found it's proper seat in my hand I instantly noticed the heft and balance of the knife. I wanted to cut something.... It was magical! My eye was drawn down the blade from point to hilt. There was no hint of rust though it was stained in spots from years of cutting everything from fresh juice oranges for breakfast to Sunday's dinner ham. Billie believed in using his tools. Then, as I turned the knife back and fourth with my hand, never changing my grip on the old yellowed pinned stag, I noticed the name in two lines, bracketed by scimitars, deeply stamped on the left side of the blade. Randall Made Orlando Florida I said out loud. Without realizing it, I heard my own voice adopt that same respectful tone. "You like that" Redburn said? Yeah, I answered quietly, my voice still in respect mode ... now that's a knife. Come with me he said, I'll show ya something. Billie was a retired Navy man. He had been an armorer aboard U.S.S. Hornet and spoke with great pride about how, in the predawn hours of April 18, 1942, he had loaded the bombs on Jimmy Doolittle's B-25 in preparation for the first U.S. air raid on the Japanese home islands .
He still kept most of his possessions, with his gun collection being the most notable exception, in sea bags which he called his Amelia Earheart luggage. It was as if he half expected to be called back to his ship at any moment. Laced up and locked, he kept everything locked with tiny pad locks, they lay about the spare bedroom which, before her death, was his wife's sewing room. I followed him into the room and watched as he walked straight to one of the olive drab bags resting next to a well worn recliner. As he sat he pulled a tiny key from his pocket and lifting up the sea bag he inserted the key and opened the lock. I couldn't help but wonder if that one key fit all those little locks or if this key was special, residing in his jeans pocket with other required items such as his pocket knife, truck keys and plastic, clamshell change purse. I soon had my answer as the lock dropped and the bag opened to reveal it's treasures. One by one Redburn pulled Randall knives from their canvas hideout. Each still in it's sheath, he tossed them unceremoniously on the floor. The knives piled up on the brown shag carpet until the sea bag lay flat and empty next to what I guessed to be around thirty Randalls of varying models, handle configurations and blade lengths. Redburn glanced my way. "One knife won't do it all, you need a bunch of'em" he said as a wry grin began to grow under his white, handlebar mustache. Like I said earlier, Redburn liked to use his tools. Several of the knives were handled in ivory, several more carried stag, a few in leather and poking noticeably out of the pile was a massive Bowie with a beautiful burl walnut, commando shaped handle. I grabbed the Bowie. Why is it that boys of any age love knives and the bigger the better? "That's a Raymond Thorp Bowie" he said, as if I should have known who Raymond Thorp was. We spent the remainder of the afternoon in that room. I would pick one from the pile and while cleaning the green stuff from the hilt that had accumulated from years of storing it in it's sheath, Redburn would educate me on that particular model. I was hooked. I had caught the bug from Redburn with which I would remain infected for the rest of my days. As I finished cleaning the last Randall, a model #1-8" with ivory and a compass in the butt, I asked the question. "So Billie, what's a knife like this gonna cost me"? As we began to put the carbon steel treasure back in it's GI safe, Redburn pulled a small yellow catalog from a side pocket of the sea bag and handed it to me. "Twenty-four dollars for the knife and six dollars more for the ivory handle?" At that price I had already ordered three models in my mind when I noticed Redburn's mustache start to twitch again. "Yup, he said, that ain't a lot of money now but it was a bunch back in 1950 when that catalog was printed"!
Billie Redburn, my friend of thirty years, passed away peacefully yesterday at the age of 86. He was a hero of the greatest generation. He led a full life and he will be missed. Good ride cowboy.
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It resides in my safe now. I know that if I ever sold it for any amount I would regret it until the day I die.

Joe

My favorite Randall is the #26 Pathfinder. It has a 4"drop point carbon blade and a Sambar stag handle. Very nice! Convenient and very useful. I will never know who made it, but I will say they are a talented craftsman. I must
say that I may never buy another Randall Made knife. Randall employs 10 to 15 workers some with more experience than others. With a 5 year backlog of production there must be alot of pressure to produce knives quickly. This leads to a decrease in quality. I have had to return knives to the shop because of simple carelessness, this aplies to sheaths as well
Once for the wrong butt cap on a knife I waited 4 years for. A poorly made sheath with stiching that waan't pulled snug. I read the knife forums and know that others share my experience. Sonora



Y

I recently got a model 27 mini Stainless and model 5 Carbon, everything was done perfectly.
I feel sorry that you are not lucky.
I heard that was a problem for one person with the model 10. He had a crack in the blade - defect steel.
Shop very quickly replaced the knife.

I have a model no 1 that I bought in the middle or late 70s.I got it to take on fishing camping trips to northern Ontario.I used it hunting hiking camping for over 25 yrs before I retired it.I once told a collector dealer at a gun show that I had used it for everything from gutting deer to cleaning fish and I once dug a latrine in a emergency.He auctualy stuttered when he told me it was for showing not using.

This one has traveled most of the world with me and skinned more big game than most Randalls. What a great knife, like S&W revolvers they should be used.

Yes and no. I'd pined for a Randall since I was a teenager. When I got to Ft Bragg in 1983 I found the old Cumberland Knife and Gun shop, one of the few stocking Randall dealers back then. I'd tossed and turned many a night deciding between a Model 1 and a Model 14. I ended up with a Model 14, stainless, sawback. I kept it in my wall locker, "in case anything ever came up where I'd need it". That Fall Grenada "came up" I strapped it on my pistol belt and didn't take it off for the rest of my enlistment. Jumped it plenty of times but I generally looped 550 cord over the top of the handle before a jump. Carrying a Randall said something back then. After I got out, I sent it back to have it cleaned up and a new sheath. I retired it in favor of a true hand forged Bowie from John Smith that I carried on me most of the time in Korea and later a Bowie from Jerry Fisk that I carried on and off. I carried another Fisk Bowie in Afghanistan a couple of years ago, but it was in my daypack most of the time.

I'm a little updated its collection of knives.
Bought Model 8 (1971) and model 3 (1991).
I was happy like a child for several days.
Then I cut a little excess metal model 8 that the balance was closer to the blade.
Now I will use them until I die and pass on the legacy
In the picture there are still EKA "Big Swede" very nice folder.

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have a randall model 5/5"s with walrus handle. also have 3" craig made randall foulder with blk micarta .any interest?

You might ought post this in the classified section and find out . . .

As for actually using Randall knives, my Model 10 with a 3" blade is my constant companion in the outdoors . . .

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I have a Randall #14 attack w/green micarta that I've had a few years. I use it on occasion but lightly, only because I have others that are a bit more practical (pocket-knives etc). I'd love to pick up one or two more Randall's but can't justify the prices since I already have one.

I carried a #5 5inch for 25 years hunting. Got tired of having to sharpen it when quartering an elk. Went back to My old Morseth and sold the Randall along with 5 other randalls.

When in high school and early college, I lived in Orlando. I bought a model 3 5" blade at Praegers Gun Shop on Orange Avenue in Orlando in 1967. It has cleaned a lot of animals and I still have it. A few years ago I picked up a NOS roughback sheath for it on Ebay. The original sheath is well worn but servicable. That knife had a stag handle. I took it down to the Randall shop right after I bought it and had them put my name on the blade, file in the thumb notches, and polish in finger grooves. It's an old 7 spacer model that is now collectable. The blade is still in good shape, despite all the antelope, deer and elk it has done over the years. I bought my son a new model 19 for Christmas in his junior year in HS and he has used it but not as much as I use mine.

I owned this one for about a year.
Couldn't bring myself to use it.
Museum grade Ivory handle.
I ended up selling it to fund another gun purchase.





Chuck

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