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I'll throw something else out there. You guys think Taurus service sucks? Try sending your $1,000.00 Para Ordnance back for service sometime (I have). Hah. You'll be wishing it was a Taurus. Point being is that Taurus gets piled on while plenty of other sucky gun companies get ignored.
I don't get it. Taurus guns aren't that bad.
Fritz out.
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06-01-2011, 11:16 PM
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warranty
I have two taurus' (a 1911 & a model 83 38 special) both have a lot of miles on them with no problems.
As to Ruger warranty, I inherited my father's stainless security six that had approx 100 rds fired. I was checking it out and found that the cylinder stop was broke. I contacted Ruger and they said that their guns have a life-time wrarranty not just to the original owner. Try that with S&W or Colt!
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"Try that with S&W or Colt! "
The S&W warranty is for guns made after 1988. Never been turned down by S&W, even for guns made before 1988 that simply needed a minor part still in inventory, which they mailed to me free of charge, thereby ensuring my loyalty. Never shot my SA Colts enough to break 'em, and never had a pleasant experience with Taurus reps the last 20 years or so. In fact, the girls I've had the misfortune to speak with at Taurus were ignorant of basic Taurus gun types and parts they can't find on their FAQ lists. My gunsmiths tell me horror stories about the Taurus reps not being able to identify correct parts, claiming certain parts don't exist, and of course mailing the wrong parts.
On the other hand, it has never been unpleasant or a waste of time to deal with the S&W (and Ruger) phone reps. Try that with Taurus!
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06-02-2011, 11:36 AM
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1. My husband carries a Taurus .40. I love him, but I hate that thing. The best way I can describe it is...it feels wonky. There's something not right about it. The Taurus, not my husband. despite having a lot of the problems already hashed over, he loves that thing. Blech.
2. I'm alive today because someone had a S&W that worked when it needed to. I don't know if I can place that kind of trust in anything else. Ergo, I have a S&W. For me, there's a je ne sais quois about a well-made American product that saved my life. it feels right in my hand, it feels right when I shoot it, the weight is right when I carry it...and as far as the guts and innards on my piece compared to the Mr.'s...there is no comparison as far as quality, cleanliness, smoothness, craftsmanship, etc.
3. I was lurking on a Taurus board, they mostly they are discussing whether or not they believe in Bigfoot, and do not spell as well as those of us here...let alone having anywhere near as much helpful knowledge and experience as I have found here.
And that's my nickel, which is two cents adjusted for inflation.
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06-02-2011, 11:52 AM
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....I knew somone would bring up Bigfoot sooner or later...
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There really is a lot of Bigfoot talk over on that board! A lot more than there is about El Chupacabra.
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We whupped them Viet Cong into democracy because they tried to use Chinese junk and Nagant revolvers against our superior Colt weaponry. Those Afghans using those rough hand forged black market Kalashnikov junk rifles will soon be eating apple pie too and religious fanatics will be a thing of the past over there by next year.
Them junk users always learn their lesson sooner or later.
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06-02-2011, 06:56 PM
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Captorquewrench- I wanna know more about your point #2. Sounds pretty interesting
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Point #2 is one of those weird news story, coulda done the talk show circuit thing.
We grew up around guns. father was military, liked to hunt, had a nice collection, mostly S&W. those were the guns I loved then, I don't remember what was what, but I knew the ones that were shot and used the most were S&W (aside from long guns, Dad was a remington man in that department) We grew up knowing how to shoot. When we were older there came the day he went too far and put a gun in my 14 year old sister's hand and told her to do him, or he would kill us all. No hesitation, but she was never the same till the day she died.
It took a long time to resolve that, and I know some people will never understand this--and I am glad they do not, because it means they've had a wonderful Dad--but I am 99.44% sure that if he hadn't died that day we all would have. It was unreal. On the .56% chance we'd all lived through it, I'm 100% sure it would have gotten even worse, even though I cannot possibly fathom how.
The point is, if you're going to abuse your kids, don't teach them how to shoot. One of them will, and the other will be glad her big sister was looking out for the rest of them.
ETA: I'm sure someone will ask: I was 10, my baby brother was 5--it was two days after Christmas, Mom was at work, Dad was home with us. Make what you will of this, but Christmas bugged me a lot for a long time. Guns never were a problem, never got gun shy or freaked out like some people do. The gun was not the bad guy in this story.
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How in the world did an intimate part of my life story end up in a Taurus bashing thread? I'm OK with it, and talking about it, or else I would never have said anything.
Also, I'm just now recalling being home out in the country, dark, rainy night, middle of nowhere, my mom always had that big S&W revolver with her. Never knew what it was specifically, just it made me think of John Wayne cowboy movies...
I wish I had those guns. My mom sold them to dad's much older brother, who died and left them to his stepson, and we've lost touch. a lot of those I would like to have.
I do know this: Not a taurus in the lot! S&W, remington, winchesters.
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Captorquewrench, not sure what one can say to a horrific event like that, but I wanted to say that I am glad your siblings and you lived, and I am glad that you are a forum member here.
God bless.
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As I've posted before, I've had two Taurus handguns in the past 20 years. A PT-92 was the first hand gun I ever purchased for myself. Good price and shot pretty well. Someone mentioned folks keeping them (PT-92's) as beater/loaner 9mm's. I traded mine. Wish I still had it. The second was a M85 ultra-lite I bought to replace a model 60-9 I sold to my brother (I bought it back a few years ago). I put a nice Hogue stock on it and it carried and shot well. Not as smooth as my J's, but still pretty good. Traded it for my beater model 19. It was good enough that it would still be nice to have. It's not a Taurus, but I bought a Rossi .22lr revolver (model 518?) last year. It's a very good little stainless "kit" gun. Great single action trigger, good double action trigger.
Knock Taurus if you like, but I have found them to be good for the $$$.
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06-02-2011, 10:07 PM
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I've had good results from a couple of Taurus revolovers over the years.
What I will never do again is bother with a Taurus auto anything....yes, based on first hand experience.
Maybe a fluke....but after 18 months of trying to make it work right, I gave it back to the person that gave it to
me in the first place.
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1. My husband carries a Taurus .40. I love him, but I hate that thing. .
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Didn't we have this conversation? IIRC you were advised to buy him a S&W?
I could be wrong, of course. I have advanced CRAFT.
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Didn't we have this conversation? IIRC you were advised to buy him a S&W?
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Yes, we have had this conversation! Working on solutions, but not anything gelling yet. he is talking more and more about how he'd rather something else. I'm letting him take his time to look and try things and let it go on his own timetable. In the meantime--if his jams, I know mine won't!
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+1 I have a Kel Tec P3At that will shoot anything I can stuff in the clip. Over 1000 rounds through it with one FTE and that was my fault - I limp wristed it.
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That is kinda like Raven MP25's .25 auto. Everyone that I have ever talked to about the say they are junk. I have owned a couple of the over the past 10 years or so and had 0 problems with either one of them. I believe it's like my dad said when i was a little boy, and asked him what was wrong with Studebakers and Hudsons, because I had heard folks call them junk. He told me that they are as good as any other car but they required a little more maintenance than some of the more expensive models. He also said that technology was far to advanced to turn out a car that couldn't measure up with proper care.
Kinda like guns I say. Your gonna get a lemon now and then no matter what it is your buying, gun, car, computer or TV.
Just my uneducated and uniformed opinion.
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There really is a lot of Bigfoot talk over on that board! A lot more than there is about El Chupacabra.
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I believe that is my cousin that's eat'n those goats...
He was born hungry...kinda like Amos Moses...you know the feller that could eat up his weight in groceries??? That's him.
Kinda to side track the discussion...but do old Rossi's count as Taurus guns? I'm pretty darn proud of my one Rossi model 88 snubby and three model 62 pump .22 rifles.
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Life is hard; it's harder if you carry a Taurus.
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Can't say that I've ever owned one.... doubt that I ever will.
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I have owned several Taurus pistols and one revolver. I now own none. I won't buy their products again. Even though they offer a lifetime warranty, their customer service is horrible...and that is one of my personal criteria for buying a handgun: I want to know that the company that makes it will stand behind it effectively...a "lifetime" warranty is meaningless if the company can't (or won't) fix their products in a reasonable time frame.
That is why I buy S&W, Ruger, and Springfield products...not only are they good guns, but these companies have excellent customer service that is regarded as overwhelmingly positive with very few negative experiences...every company can have the occasional "oops" but with Taurus, it is generally bad.
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In honor of all those that support the Taurus line, today I took 170 rounds of 45Acp to the range. For pistols I took a brand new R1 Remington, and my old beat-up Taurus PT 1911. I put the Remington back in my Midway range bag and pulled out the Taurus, loaded all 16 mags I have and went through all 170 rounds. I don't know how many my old Taurus has "down the pipe" but it is alot. I say somewhere between 6000 and 7500. But as soon as it breaks, I'm going to send it back to Taurus to see if I can get a little of that lifetime warranty stuff. They won't need to rush it back though. I still have that Colt or that Dan Wesson, or that Remington, or that Kimber I can use.
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My name is Gary and I own a Taurus. I also own two Hi Points, two Kel Techs, a Jennings, a Heritage Roughrider, several commie firearms, a couple of S&W’s and yes even a Glock. Furthermore, I have sold and traded more guns than my old brain can remember.
There now, I feel so much better.
BTW, I like guns so much that I don’t mind toying around with other brands. In fact, I look forward to it.
My philosophy is life is too short to spend it on one or two manufactures.
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Never had the desire but I'm always appreciative of all levels (price points) of guns....EVERYONE should be able to buy a gun. From Hi-Point to a Korth....there are guns for everyone who chooses to own one...that's darn important.
Bob
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