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Help with Historical Flintlock
I need help with any info on how or where to sell a historical flintlock musket. It belongs to a widow lady from my church who asked me to help her with it. A document she has (not historic) indicates that it is pre revolutionary war, possibly from the morgan family & tied to General John Morgan, who served under George Washington, thru Daniel Morgan. I don't see any way to comfirm that. She thinks it is French made. I am not a photographer but took a few pics. The zip tie does not hold anything together; it was put on at a gun show. I've never seen anything like it on the Forum classified section like it so I don't know if that's a good place to start or not. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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07-01-2011, 06:18 PM
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Brown, I am no expert in flintlocks, but it sure looks like your friend may have something very important. The American Long Rifles Forum is populated with todays experts on historical firearms and can surely give you direction. Check them out here: AmericanLongRifles Forums - Index
Make sure she does not make any moves quickly or she could be taken. This gun might be worth a thousand dollars or it might be worth $50,000 and up if it can be tied with General Morgan. Get some expert help. This could be a great historical piece. Please keep us updated on progress. You might have to join the American long rifles forum to post a question. If you have any problems let me know as I am a member there.
Good luck
Stonecove
ps you are going to make someones year with that find. It's It's like finding a Bugati in a barn!
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07-01-2011, 08:05 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll let you know what I find out. If any other resources pop up please let me know. - jerry
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07-01-2011, 11:15 PM
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Track of the wolf (a web site) is where I would list it if I were looking to sell.
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07-02-2011, 03:40 PM
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That is really something to see.
Nothing like that ever showed up at church around here!
Someone on one of those forums will most likely be able to ID the bbl stamping(s).
Many of the originals have been rebuilt of necessity over time and have later period parts on them. But those that are deeply into these can spot old repairs and modifications. That along with other clues & the original parts can tell a pretty good story of the gun.
I'd only guess that the lock is not original and is a later replacement. But when and what era I don't know.
Overall it shows some French & some English characteristics to my eye.
Let us know what the real experts say!
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07-02-2011, 06:51 PM
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More Pics
Thnaks again, I posted pics on both of the recommended forums and have already received a lot of info. I'll keep you posted.
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07-02-2011, 08:23 PM
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Regardless, get a competent professional appraisal. Not cheap, but could save your making a bad move.
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07-04-2011, 03:37 PM
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Hey Brown, I was following your post over on Muzzleloadingforum.com and your post seems to have been moved or erased. I was enjoying the information you were getting. Can you point me to the post or update us on progress towards identifying your flintlock? Awesome find!
Thanks,
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07-04-2011, 05:40 PM
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Brown...
Let your thread ride. Do not except any offers that may come in your emails or PM's from that forum. Mike and Tom are both experts...and are giving you a good read on your gun. If you can prove its Provenance...its value goes up exponentially.
Let it ride, gather what info you can...and then onto the next few steps.
Giz
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07-04-2011, 06:25 PM
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Brown ... Another resource you may choose to pursue is a top auction house. Sothebys and Chrisities do a great deal of appraisal work, and have fairly good expert staff in most areas of collectibles. You can call and inquire which dept. handles antique firearms, then set up an appt. Also, echoing what others have said, be patient and don't do anything until you have sufficient info. I'm sure there's already a few opportunists out there looking to help your plight by taking that old relic off your hands for a "generous" price.
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07-04-2011, 07:59 PM
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Very interesting gun, I believe it is a French type C tradegun. Find a copy of Colonial Frontier Guns, it gives dates of 1680-1730 for these guns, so it may predate the F&I war! It looks to have all the original and correct hardware except the sideplate. How long is the barrel? Is the bore about .62?
I have no idea about the value, but I would send it to one of the big auction houses to get the most for the owner. I think the gun has great potential even without any provenance.
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