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Spanish Mauser carbine
I ran across a Spanish Mauser carbine today in a gun shop, sitting on the shelf all by itself. It was an earlier one with 1922 as the year it was made. The stock has been sporterized with some inlays and it was reblued once, but the bore is good, the action is smooth and no extra holes were drilled anywhere. It is still in its original 7 x 57mm and the shop wants $100 out the door. I have already found plenty of brass online should I get it, and some stripper clips which don't cost much. I was going to go look for a .30-30 this week or a short barreled shotgun for the house and I have a budget of about $300 at the moment but I do admit I like this gun. It still has the ladder rear sight, has the short twenty inch barrel and weighs about 6 pounds or so. I was thinking for a nice little gun that I can beat around with it is probably as tough as anything else I am going to find for the money.
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01-19-2013, 01:30 PM
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I would have picked that up in a heartbeat. Hope it's still there.
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01-19-2013, 01:38 PM
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Re: Spanish Mauser carbine
For a $100 youre bot loosing anything if it shoots good. PPU still makes ammo for it, around $15/box. The 7mm is a very fast and flat shooting round. Very versatile as well
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01-19-2013, 01:46 PM
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The 7X57 is one of my favorite calibers. I have a ruger 77 in it. For whatever reason I found that different weight bullets want to shoot to the same POI. I had also read that about them. The 7x57 is low recoil, flat shooting and accurate.
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Forgive my ignorance please. Is that the same as the Argentine Mauser carbine with (for lack of a better description) has a full length forearm like a Mannlicher.
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Re: Spanish Mauser carbine
Argy are 7.65x53. 7mm are 7x57
The 7.65 uses a .311 bullet and translates to 303 in English and the round is basically a rimless copy of the 303 Brit
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If it has a bayonet lug you may have to register it as an Assault rifle in NY.
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Spanish Mauser as in made in Spain at the Spanish Federal Arsenals (Oviedo or SanteFe (sp's?)
,,or is it a '1893 Spanish Mauser made for Spain in Germany at Loewe/Berlin.
I might pay $100 for the German mfg'rd hardware,,maybe,,,for a project or just a shooter if it hadn't been reblued or wood inlayed.
But not for the Spanish mfg item.
But that's just me..
1922 mfg yr I'd guess it was a Spanish mfg'r and not a German made piece.
FWIW,,Many of the Spanish mfg'r 93's were converted to the FR-7 and FR-8 carbines by the Spanish Gov't to fire the 7.62 CETME cartridge.
AFAIK, the 7.62 CETME is dimentionally the same as the 7.62NATO,,but loaded down considerably in pressure.
The bolt carbines were to be used for training and secondary issue for the CETME frontline issue rifle itself.
I don't know if it's true, but from what I've been told by 'experts', the FR-7 is safe with CETME loads only,,the FR-8 is ok with 7.62 NATO.
loads.
It doesn't sound as if the little carbine you're looking at is one of these FR conversions (sights were altered in the conversions), but I thought it worth mentioning.
Cut down military pre-98 Mausers generally have little value past truck gun status,,especially the 'Spanish' Mauser. Of the two above,,the licensed version actually made in Spain even less.
Cut down stock, inlays, reblued metal all really put the rifle in the bubba grade, though still a usable shooter for the right price no doubt.
It's a good idea to check headspace on these. They can be grossly excessive expeccially on the Spanish made rifles. Plus mixed parts are not uncommon, especially the bolt.
Though the other pre-98 Mausers are virtually the same, A Swede 94 or 96 would get $100 easily in that condition just because of it's heritage really.
A Chilean 95 might as it has (sort of) a 3rd safety lug with the bolt handle notch in the receiver and is looked upon as being safer than the 93 version.
The Argentine 91 is the same except for the straight line feed that extends the magazine below the stockline. Some are used for gunsmith projects converting to small dia bodied cartridges as the straightline feed is more easily adaptable than the staggered feed of the others.
7x57 is great cartridge for sure. Ammo is readily available loaded or as components.
I make 7x57 from 30-06 military brass. It's a reform and trim operation. Some say it's more work than necessary, but I've plenty of brass and it's not that much work to do.
Just some thoughts & things to look for.
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