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Old 09-04-2014, 10:56 PM
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I recently purchased a new 1911 Springfield Loaded in 9mm. It appears to be a very well made firearm and has great fit and finish.

I took it shooting for the first time last week and had multiple failures to feed. I was using WW factory 9mm ammo with 115 gr. bullet and the Metalform magazines that came with this gun.

I have since become aware that others have had feeding problems with some 1911 Springfield 9mm pistols.

Springfield says they use a 9lb recoil spring, however, other websites recommend 12lb to 14lb recoil springs. Apparently the reason Springfield uses a 9lb recoil spring is because they use a heavy mainspring to insure reliable ignition with the titanium firing pin.

My question for any of you who have 1911 Springfield Loaded 9mm pistols is have you had any of these reliability issues with this pistol and what did you do to resolve them.

What would be the correct weight recoil spring, firing pin spring and main spring when shooting a Springfield 9mm with 115 gr to 124 gr bullets?
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I can't even imagine that a nine pound spring is even close to correct.

I run a 16 pound spring in a Colt 9mm 1911 with a standard mainspring.

It cycles fine with factory ammo and reloads.

Since you are having problems it would be a good idea to buy some springs in different weights.

Springs are inexpensive and easy to change.

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If it was me, I'd put in a good quality standard steel firing pin, a standard weight hammer spring, and get several different weights of recoil springs.

Titanium firing pins have always seemed to me like the perfect way to get light primer strikes. I'm surprised that SA uses them.

Last but not least: some new semiauto pistols just need some break in time.

Way back when, in the 1970's, I bought a brand new Model 59. It was a jamomatic for the first few hundred rounds. After that, even using my homemade cast bullets, and many times reloaded brass, it ran nearly perfectly. I used to shoot 700 rounds a week. it was rare to have a failure of any kind. Perhaps once a month, if that.
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WW 115gr 9mm is notorious for being a bit anemic. Your gun was set up the way it was for a reason. Try some 124gr loaded to nato spec before re-springing your springer.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:28 AM
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I have only had one NEW auto and it was a 1911 that did not work at all the first time out. I had lubricated it with oil, but it needed grease on the rails. I suggest you try some grease on yours and see if it helps any. You might also try some different ammo.
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If it is NEW gun, just call SA. Their customer service is as good or even better than SW.

Why should you mess with it and quesstimate what's wrong with it?

14lb is a standard for most 9mm 1911.
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If it is NEW gun, just call SA. Their customer service is as good or even better than SW.

Why should you mess with it and quesstimate what's wrong with it?

14lb is a standard for most 9mm 1911.
I'll second this idea. Call the factory and see what they advise. I've had my loaded for at least 5 years and no problems. Factory springs then were 12 pounds. I have used between 12-13.5 pound springs in my 1911 full size 9mm's without any problems.
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If it is NEW gun, just call SA. Their customer service is as good or even better than SW.

Why should you mess with it and quesstimate what's wrong with it?

14lb is a standard for most 9mm 1911.
I own about six SA 1911s, although none are 9 mm, plus one M1A and have contacted SA CS several times in the past three years. Their Customer Service is outstanding. The OP stated that this is a new 1911. CS should work with you to resolve this problem very quickly.

On a related note: CS reps are human beings just like all of us. They have good days, and bad days plus great customers, and those who are impossible. Although I don't believe you'll have this experience, continue to call until you talk with someone who will address and resolve your problem, mui pronto!
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My wife's Taurus PT1911 9MM isn't fond of 115 grain ammo. Feed it 124 grain and she runs like a champ. My S&W Pro series 9MM 1911 cycles everything reliably, however 124 grain ammo is much more accurate. So, I would try some 124 grain ammo and if that doesn't work, order a few different weight recoil springs from Wolff. 14 to 16lbs seems to be about the average.
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I would like to know if you field stripped the pistol and lubed it before your first range session. I do that with all semi-autos. Factory 1911's are much tighter with the slide to frame fit these days. Any little grit left-over from machining could cause the slide to drag. When you lube it, make sure that you lube the rails and the the barrel lugs, as well as, the top of the barrel on top of the chamber and the end of the barrel where the barrel bushing makes contact.

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I'm on-board with the previous forum member recommendations for ammo and lube. I use white lithium grease myself and have never had a problem.

This may sound off base, but how tight is your grip? My wife has a Glock 19 (I acknowledge that they are not in the same league) and has a nasty habit of using a pansy grip at the range which translates in to multiple FTF or FTE problems, and a lot of heartburn for me! I pick it up, use my old USMC PMI taught grip, and have never had these problems. I spoke with the range officers about it. It's a common problem with 115 grain PMC ammo + inadequate slide lubrication + the weaker recoil spring + the lack of a firm grip.

Trust me on this one, it may solve the problem.
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Just about every custom 1911 gunsmith will tell you that a new (or rebuilt) 1911 will need a minimum of 500 rounds and up to 1000 rounds to "break in". I also concur with the others on disassembling and cleaning and re lubing the gun before starting to break in. I also concur that 124 gr. loads will generate better accuracy than the 115's. You may also want to try the 146 gr. loads.
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I have a Loaded bought new this year with 1200 rounds through it so far. Has been 100% reliable with 115 and 124 grain rn and hp using four factory mags. The only factory ammo I've tried was Federal 124 rn.

Pistol is still completely stock and kept clean and I'm probably a little generous with the lube.

It is more accurate with 124s, just wish it would keep up with my CZ 75B!
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