Hi Point 9mm carbine

Opinions as to the Hi Point 9mm carbine?

I have one. It's not the most accurate pistol-caliber carbine and I also had to ask Hi Point for a new recoil spring assembly right off the bat. The original RSA that came with it was too weak and made the gun jam. I literally shot it twice the first time out and decided not to shoot it again before getting a new RSA. They mailed me a new one for free and there were no stoppages the next time I took it to the range, or any time after that. I'm up to about 250 rds through it. It's actually real fun to shoot. The field strip/reassembly isn't exactly fun but I got used to it after practicing a couple times. For what it costs overall I think it's great.

Gol doggit

That looks FUN! I can't afford something like an Uzi which is one of the most fun guns I ever shot.

A heavily built, rugged, inaccurate piece of junk. Even at its low price point, an overpriced ammunition disposal system.

JMHO
Larry

My son has one in .45ACP and it shoots up a storm. The 9m/m is cheaper to shoot so it should be a lot more fun. Larry

I had one of these and got rid of it after it fired out of battery. I'm a lefty and it was darn lucky I had safety glasses on.
Jim

I'd been thinking of one (not my strong suit) in 45 acp, as the guys at steel challenge have been tearing things up with them. The old sayings, you get what you pay for and if it sounds too good to be true kept nagging at me. Last Wednesday at s.c. an R.O.'s fired out of battery and ruptured a 9mm case, no injuries to the shooter or timer. A bullet did lodge in the bbl with no other "apparent/obvious" damage to the gun, SO there is that. No telling what a 45 oob might have caused.

I have one and it is more accurate than me at 50 yards. Speer 124gr +P JHPs go downrange with some authority.

Guy was shooting one next to me at the range last weekend and his was absolutely dead on accurate. He had a cheap red dot sight on his.

I've looked at different pistol caliber carbines, for the price of the hi point and a lifetime warranty with it, how wrong could you really go? Most owners seem happy with them.

It's a good pistol cartridge carbine. I've had one in 9mm for the past 4 years, have shot well over 1500 rounds with it, and have had a blast with it. No FTE, FTF issues with it at all in my ownership. I, too, have a cheap red dot scope on mine, and it's been accurate for what it is. What it's not is a mil spec AR or AK system...it's an inexpensive rifle that is reliable and fun to shoot.

It would be better than a pointy stick!

Seriously, though, while I have never owned a Hi Point, the ones I have fired all were reasonably accurate and reliable.

Eric Harris liked it....

And it wasn't even an assault rifle! (Eric Harris was one of the two Columbine killers, in case you were wondering)

Seriously, it's a good, reliable carbine for the money with a non-nonsense, lifetime warranty. Something goes wrong with it and they can't fix it, they'll send you a whole new gun - no matter how long you had it.

A lot of people get it in .45ACP for the big boost in velocity it gives to a big honkin' bullet. Yet, the niner's are more popular because they can run extended mags in them (although the company has a caveat specifically for using Pro-Mags in 20 and 30 capacity. Basically, it voids the warranty - but owners follow the philosophy of "It isn't illegal unless you get caught" and they figure, "How would Hi-Point know if you used one?"

At $245 a pop, there aren't many who will worry about voiding the warranty and feel that it's worth whatever risk there might be to use 30-round mags - because, even if their gun breaks and they are outed for using Pro-Mags, they'll either get it fixed or buy another one.

I was going to buy one, but it is not user-friendly to left-handers. Being a straight blowback design with a large ejection port located along the right side, you're face will be bathed in smoke black and GSR unless you use a low residue ammo like Blazer CCI Clean-Fire, HPR Cleanfire, Sellier & Bellot Non-Tox ammo , or some of the newer Winchester offerings.

If you're right-handed and are like the way it looks or can live it , you won't find a cheaper carbine anywhere. It's even harder to find reasonably priced surplus WWII carbines and battle rifles. The price of the regular Chinese SKS's have gone way up in price - albeit, still cheaper than buying the cheapest AK-47 or AK-74.

I had a VZ-2008 on order (A Century Arms re-assembled AK-74 variant with folding metal stock for $379), but canceled it afer hearing about its recalls in the past.

Although unrelated to the Hi-Point, ATI, TAPCO, and a bunch of other aftermarket companies also makes some really nice butt stocks, barrel stocks, and other pseudo-tacticool upgrades to the SKS, including extended mags that resemble AK mags. Since they shoot the same ammo as an AK, that's a major advantage in a PC leftwing "assault weapon" hating world who wuold have a hard time calling a stock SKS a "killing machine."

But, if it were me buying a bargain Hi-Point, I'd use the money I saved to upgrade the way it looks and feels. There are several options for tricking out your Hi-Point. Check out these photos for inspiration:

Tricked Out Hi-Point Carbine - Bing Images

The ATI stock upgrade is is the cheapest way to go - if you know ahead of time that it's not a simple, drop-in assembly. You will need a a couple of metal files and several sheets of sandpaper in assorted grits (cheese grits is not one of them).

It looks way better than the metal cage the gun comes in when you're done.

TAPCO makes a cool, folding stock for it.

You see, IMHO, the bare Hi-995 has all the weight, feel, and coolness of a steel girder. The trigger length is way too short as you'll almost have to rest your butt along side your ear (and your gun, too) - so swapping out just the stock and butt is a must in my book.

eagleguy said:

Opinions as to the Hi Point 9mm carbine?

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I have had my 995 for over a year now. I am well pleased. I bought mine with 3 mags but on one of them the lips were rolled too much. I called CS and a tech told me how to open them and asked my address. Three days later I had two free mags.
I put a Leupold illuminated scope and a bi-pod on it. The only problem I have is remembering which nephew I loaned it to.

My kids shoot mine more than I do. I get to see it on gun cleaning day, then it's gone again. My son-in-law has it right now out at the cabin. My daughter said that she's enjoyed shooting it, and they both swear she is better with it than he is. LOL I raised her right!

Anyway, the lifetime warranty on it is great. Tom Deeb, Beemiller's owner (Beemiller makes the Hi-Point and MKS is the distributer), is a great guy and stands behind his product. Yes, much of the metal bits are cast instead of stamped or machined, but they are well made. They are made in the Dayton/Cincinnati Ohio area, so they are American made.

So...American made with a lifetime warranty is hard to beat. Remember, people laugh at the Sigma, and it's made in the same manner and comes with the same warranty, and is a solid and reliable pistol.

I heard the ProMags will damage the frame.

A redesign for Glock mags would be great.

A friend of mine bought one of the 9mm pistols. Took it to the range and it worked just fine. Adjustable sights were right on. The carbine is just a longer pistol with a butt stock so I think it should be OK. Might pick one up for myself.

I have just bought one and have not had a chance to shoot it. I read many reviews on them and most seemed well satisfied so I took a chance for that money.

Any other lefties out there who have tried out the Hi-Point and heard, "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes," playing in the background?

I could never personally bring myself to buy a Hi Point. That said, if people that own them enjoy shooting them, and they are reliable, why not. I look at firearms as investments too, and try to purchase guns that if I had to sell at some point, I would do ok. But, there are high end guns that don't always work right. I had a Sig GSR Revolution Carry 1911, that malfunctioned every time I ever shot it regardless of the ammo. It was dead nuts accurate, trigger pull was amazingly crisp, and it would FTF or stovepipe a round in a second. Let's just say I don't own it anymore.....

I bought a Hi Point C9 pistol due to being a poor family man, it has performed perfect for 600 rounds so far. My buddy got a 45 Hi Point and it is amazing to shoot