This IS the Smith & Wesson forum; If you are impressed with the Glock (which is a fine pistol) you should be Very Impressed with the S&W M&P. Having owned both I can say wholeheartedly, the S&W M&P has Glock beat in terms of how it feels in my hand. Much nicer to hold. There is that gravely trigger on the M&P that needs addressing, however if you like to shoot lead you don't have to buy an after market barrel. As nice as the plastic sights on the Glock appear, I prefer the metal sights of the M&P. I think the S&W M&P is certainly worth checking out at your local gun shop and/or range.

Looks like it's a step closer to being official (If we can trust that this wasn't photo-shopped ):
G43 - Single-Stack 9mm


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(reposted from @EnhancedPrecisionProducts )

I'll be "needing" one.

Glock's Twitter account says that the official announcement will be on 3/20.

My daughter bought a 31 in 357 Sig. The LGS she frequents started trying to trade her out of it when she put a 17 on layaway. Silly boys told her the 31 recoil is too much for a girl. She nope, no issues with recoil. It is cost of ammo, she can target shoot the 17 and after x number of 9 mm boxes fired she will pay for it based on the price difference in 357 SIG ammo vs 9 mm ammo.

She keeps the 31 loaded for night crawlers.

Smart girl. Now I need to teach her how to reload.

It's a shop

Thinking about joining a Glock Forum to extoll the virtues of S&W's.DOH! Sorry lost it there for a moment, brain back online.

What's wrong with liking and talking about other guns? Every forum does it. Or maybe we just need another "what S&W to carry in the woods with +P ammo against bears"?

Yeah, I thought what this sub-forum was for.

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She made a good choice. The Glock 31 is a great pistol. (Mine's not for sale either! )

I like my 1911s and Shield 9MM, but my Glock 30S get carried the most these days. I just keep going back to it because I don't care if it gets dinged up and 9 rounds of .45 ACP is comforting.

Grip angles...

Hold your arm outstretched, fist clenched, extend your index finger, and point at something across the room. Pretend your finger is the barrel of an imaginary gun and as you align the sights make note of your hand's grip angle.

The angle of your hand is the angle Glock picked for his handguns. Pretty simple.

OBTW for those who have J frame revolvers, check the grip angle of your little wheel guns. Very close to "GLOCK-like" as you extend your arm and aim it.

Edmo

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It's okay to like other guns . . .

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Good - I have 40+ of them and Glock doesn't have that many models.

I'm sorry I can't have a plastic pistols. When I die I'm going to hell where it's very hot. Plastic melts. Like the song goes the devil pokes me with his pitchfork and I shoot him with my 41.

This IS the "other brands" section, boys -- if you're only capable of discussing S&W, plenty of other sections here dedicated to just that.

I have been impressed by Glocks since I was issued my first one in 1989, a Gen 2 G17. On my third issued one (G23) and own six. No issues that I can blame the gun for and those are very, very few. My old G27 I bought from work is on my hip as I type this. Waiting for a single stack .40 version...

How can you tell? What did you spot? Or are you going by what someone else thinks?

I blew up the pic and the Alignment, Pixelation and shadowing on the lettering matches the rest of the pic (3 of the more obvious 'tells').
I'm not saying it definitely isn't a photoShop, but if it is, it was done very well.

Yep. The idea is that if the user (soldier) is blinded he can still shoot straight ahead as long as he can point his finger straight ahead.

I agree that Glocks are great. I love my 23. No, they may not be the sexiest thing on the block, but they run like a champ. I have neve had a malfunction with mine, and if you do have a problem, their customer service is great. I've been to their headquarters in Smyrna because my Gen 2 had a crack in the frame at a slide rail. The gunsmith found it when installing a lighter trigger spring. I took it to Glock, got it back in a Gen 3 frame, and essentially got a new gun back. You get to meet the armorer that is going to perform the work etc. It is generally my primary carry weapon. I just got a new M&P Shield .40 the other day, but haven't shot it yet, but assuming it runs like it should, I will carry it also.

I have Glocks, M&Ps, and Sigs (both old and the new P320) and the shield is my primary concealed carry gun. Had Glocks for most of my gun owning years and recently purchased M&Ps and the Sig P320. All are good guns, each has there pros and cons. I am now constantly reminded why I stayed with Glocks so long -- Parts Availability, you can buy parts and accessories for Glocks very easily, not so with the M&Ps, and the P320. I have managed to build a minimal spare parts inventory for my M&P's. Spare parts for the P320 are non existent and Sig wants you to buy a new magazine for the P250 or P320 if your spring gets weak.

If I had to choose only one gun to keep it would be a Glock, probably a G19 or G23.

My mistake, I actually thought it was bad etiquette to extoll the perceived virtues of a gun that is in direct competition with the Forums maker.
It seems to me(mistakenly I guess) that going on a Ford Forum and praising Chevys was not cool so......OK.
Look for my thread "I'm impressed by Colt 1911's".

No, I don't know Jack, and have been reminded of that many times.

Did you notice that this section of the forum reads "firearms and knives - OTHER BRANDS"? Did you not see all the posts about 3006 hunting rifles and lever guns, and surplus rifles and 1911s and Sigs and FN, and Walther. Heck there is one guy who was asking about others experiences with the Walther PPS, a direct competitor to the Shield and

This forum is not in direct competition with anyone. It's simply for S&W enthusiasts. But it doesn't mean you can only talk about S&W. Most of us are GUN enthusiasts. Personally my S&W collection is about as big as my HK collection and my Glock collection. But my biggest collection is Mosin Nagants and AKs.

You're more than welcome to talk about your 1911, I do and so do many others.

Heck... That's why Handejector and Crew MADE this Sub-Forum!
Have you been to XD-Talk, MP-Forum, or the other Forums?
XD-Talk has a "Non-XD Handguns" Sub-Forum and MP-Forum has a "Autoloader" (Non-M&P) Sub-Forum. Those are just 2 examples. Almost every Brand Based forum I frequent has one. Heck... XD-Talk has many long standing members who have dumped their XD pistols over the years, but still frequent the Non-XD Subform.

Aren't there a few 1911 threads here in this Subforum? Another sure won't hurt anyone's feelings... Looking forward to yours.

I own one Glock (model 30). Utterly reliable. Very accurate. Very soft shooting (to me). Well engineered. Well made. Easy to maintain. Extremely business-like. Really ugly. I have owned it since 1999, and have put exactly 200 rounds through it. I have never liked any gun less. Plastic guns are not for me. It and my Kahr PM45, should belong to someone who appreciates them.

Just put a Gen 3 Glock 17 on layaway. Slide laser etched NORFOLK
POLICE DEPARTMENT

It's an enthusiasts' forum, owned and operated by same; S&W the company has zero connection to it, so go wild (within forum rules ).

Younger people love plastic guns. My son and his friends, they are in their early to mid twenties, love the modern high cap pistols and see them as contemporary.

I went shooting with my youngest son, he is 24 and just got a LWD ported barrel for one of my Glock 17s that is a highly modified range gun with a Vanek trigger.

He was impressed enough with my 10 yard group to make a photo for his brother. I did a little worse with the S&W 64 DAO, though. Just ten rounds with the Glock and twelve with the Smith before I shot dor speed.

I have a SD9VE which I like very well, but I'm having a hard time not replacing it with, or putting it into a backup role to, a Glock 19.

Yes Glocks are great handguns. I love mine in 45ACP(G21).. But I also highly value my SIGs n Smith M+P

Went to my LGS today and asked what the word from the Sales Reps were. Looks like the 20th will just be the 'unveiling', with the official release being at the NRA show later this Spring.

The 'impression' they got from their Rep, is that the G43 will indeed be a Single-Stack 9mm, with the size being 'a bit bigger' than the G42.
What does 'a bit bigger' mean? They said they figure it would be similar to the size difference between the P238 and P938... just a bit beefier, to handle the 9mm (and possibly, a .40).

Three more days 'til the speculation is over.

How long after the official release will a reliable version be available?

(It sounds like the Glock 42 .380 got off to a rocky start.)

Mine was 100% from day one.

I had one problem with 1 of my 6 Glocks - rectified by manufacturer in 10 days. YMMV.

G27,G21,G23, all a distant memory.

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Shoulda kept the 23...

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Gen2 G19 (now 25Yrs old), Gen4 G26 (bought AFTER the recoil Spring issue), both 100% and going strong.

If it shoots as nicely as the G42, it'll be my next purchase... But after the mob subsides.

I think that if you like Glock you will also like Springfield XD.
I have a G19 that I very much like for same reasons many have mentioned. It goes bang EVERY time, easy take down, easy to shoot, etc.
I also have a Springfield Mod 2. Both in 9mm.
Not sure which I like more.

Very interesting, never heard this before. It makes sense.

Unfortunately (for me anyway) the biomechanics of my hand shift slightly to a more vertical 'grip' angle when I open up from a clenched fist to an actual shooting position.

You can easily experiment for yourself, extend your clenched hand, then simply open it up as if holding a gun. You will see the angle of your grip palm change slightly upwards.

At least mine does. It is why I never really could get used to the Glock angle when shooting (shot G19 and G17 rentals at the range.)

Not Glock-bashing; mind, they just didn't work for me.

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The back straps on Gen 4 guns solve the grip angle issue.

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Glocks are great guns. Their simplicity is what makes them great.

If my job was a Police Officer, or some kind of Federal Agent where I had to carry a high capacity gun, I would probably choose a Glock. Even over my Sig.

They are reliable, they are very accurate, and as a defense gun/front line gun, having the same trigger pull every time is something that is critical in a real gunfight.

I had a Glock 23, I wish I still had it. Especially with the option of getting a 9mm conversion barrel for it.

The G43, single stack 9mm is real. There are several pics of it in a magazine article over on another forum Pic of new single stack Glock 9mm leaked (G43). Seriously this time - THR

I like my S&W, Colt, SIG, etc., etc handguns but like the Glocks also. I've decided I like the Olive Drab green ones.

I usually carry this .40 model 23. I've put Meprolight night sights on it since the picture was made.



The 10 mm model 20 is potent but thicker to carry. Meprolight night sights here as well.




The 9mm model 19 aint too shabby either. Factory sights on it and youngest son has taken a liking to it and carries it.



Meprolight night sights on this 9mm model 17 as well. Just wish it was easier to fit 1911 stag grips to the Glocks. ; )

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The smoothness I'm talking about is in the grip so it is functionality.

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I LUV my 3rd gen Smith and wouldn't take anything for it. It feels like it was made for my hand, good trigger, it will shoot lead and it has never failed on any ammo/bullet and I use a LOT of different ammo that I make myself. The aluminum frame is light, too. In this thread I'm just pointing out a few things that I found that are attractive about Glocks whereas before I was more in the hater camp.

PS: This is the 'other brands' thread.

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Just thought I'd mention that S&W's are quite welcome over on the General section of a certain Glock Forum that I belong to. Quite a variety of guns and some of the same members as here. I will also put myself in the Glock pointability crowd. It just POINTS for me. I have to work at it a little with other guns. A lot of it is what you're used to.

Quoting myself here, now it looks like I may have to get my wallet out as there are internet rumblings about the soon-to-be released G43, single stack 9mm. There is one thread on this forum and on several others. (And, commented on in post #144).

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For those interested in the stats:

I don't see a bit of difference in ease of takedown between a Glock or a Beretta PX4... In fact the Beretta is easier. The same goes for the Sig line such as the P320. Both the Sig n Beretta are extremely reliable n accurate firearms, I like owning all 3 !!!!