Bought this at a bankruptcy forced auction back in 1999; as per Swiss law the auction was organized by the local police, as you need a permit for all weapons, and a special permit for full-auto weapons. I have a second magazine and the original box too (though cardboard, not worth showing). Needless to say I was ecstatic to acquire it, and still very happy to have it in my collection.

Wow........ often talked about but rarely seen............

IIRC that's a +$5,000 gun here in the States...................maybe well past 5K

Very nice, the first I have seen even in a photo.

Have you been able to shoot it, and if so is it difficult to control on full auto?

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That's super-cool. It's 3-shot burst, correct? Or is it actually full-auto?

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Because of the metric system?

IIRC three shot burst on later 92Rs..pictured

Early 951Rs were full auto with a 10rd magazine.... something like 700rpm..... a mag dump in about .8 seconds.

First time I've ever seen one! Nice piece, really nice!

Back then it was a 1500 - 2500 gun. Now it is also a 4500-6000 gun here.

I used it a couple of times, with the folding stock you can hold 3 rounds in a silhouette target at 15 yards, without it .. 5 yards. The little thing is lively.

It is 3 shots burst as indicated by the one dot/3 dot switch in front of the safety. Magazine holds 20, plus one in the chamber, so you get 7 trigger pulls to empty it.

Over on the "Other"Forum...... the 93R is the topic of several threads a year......
I'm under the impression that very few ever made it into the US as they are post 1968 (or was it 73/4 ?).....

Pardon my ignorance, what is the "other" forum ?

berettaforum.net.

Whoa that is an incredible looking gun. I dig the mini bayonet

Patrick Duffy used one of those in an episode of "Dallas".

Sorry, that is no bayonet. The trigger guard is elongated, the shooter sticks the thumb of his weak hand into the front of the trigger guard and hooks his first finger around the projection in an attempt to steady the pistol in burst fire.

Very nice Beretta. I can't recall ever seeing it with the stock, I can understand how it would make it much more controllable.

That ugly plastic duckling has a bayonet

I can share the story of how this Beretta 93 R came in my possession.

So back in June 1999, a good friend and shooting buddy sends me a fax (yes a TELEFAX) with the copy of a newspaper ad for a forced auction after a private bankruptcy.





I wrote to the bankruptcy office and asked for a detailed list of the guns offered for sale.





When I saw the Beretta 93 R, having already a 92 F from 1986 which I adored (and still have), I knew I should try to buy it.

I asked the LGS what price would be reasonable, in order words where do I stop bidding. He told me that the normal value was abt. 1000.- Swiss francs (abt 670.- $ back then), but that would have been if you could have bought one new from Beretta. However they sold in very limited quantities, mostly to police and/or counter terrorism forces, and only in batches (like 10 guns or so).

So finding one in the private market was extremely rare and a price of upto 3000.- Swiss francs (2000.- $) would be reasonable. I went to the bank and created a dent in my savings account, took 3 grand out.

Despite the listing number, they sold the special objects (full auto) last (the Beretta 12 MG, the 93 R and the 1928 A1 Thompson). It was the main event.

At first Tom Dick and Harry were happily bidding, increments of CHF 100.-. After a while, nearing two grand we were only two left truly interested in this gun (others were saving their pennies for the Tommy gun or spent them on the 12 MG). We kept increasing by 100.-, 2200, 2300, 2400, when the other guy showed he was running out of oxygen: he started bidding by 5.- increments, like 2405.-. So I kept increasing by 100.- to discourage him. At 2605 I decided to slow down, offered 2650.- (US$ 1770.-). He gave up, lot number 37 was mine.





Recently I saw two being sold locally at abt. 5000.- CHF (about the same in US$ today). Another LGS sold one for 6'000.- a couple of years ago.

Different laws create different prices indeed.

Great gun, great story!! Thanks for sharing
Do you recall what the Thompson sold for?

Thanks. I have no re-collection as I was extremely focused on the 93 R. Both others sub-machine guns were neat too, but I could only afford one. I would guess same price territory.

I recently got a second chance on a Thompson, see my other thread on it.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/firearm...#post138605229

Very nice indeed. I believe a 93 was used by John Travolta in the movie Broken Arrow, and wasn't it also the first Robo Cop gun?

That is correct, the Robocop gun was highly modified though.

Beretta 93R - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games