1911 Barrel Failure

tndrfttom

Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2011
Messages
766
Reaction score
1,711
Location
So. Florida
This post doesn’t fit neatly in the “Reloading”, ‘smithing, or “competition” categories so I figured I’d drop this “1911 barrel failure” story here for anyone who is interested. I’ve seen several bulged barrels from stuck bullets and one that the chamber/hood area blew out due to an excessive load but nothing like the failure shown in the photos below.

The barrel is from an AMT Hardballer Longslide (insert your favorite AMT joke here) that had been shot almost weekly in local bowling pin matches for 5 years or so. The reloads were, admittedly, stiff with a 200 grain H&G SWC over a max load (per the Lyman Manual) of Bullseye.

It’s obvious from the photos that this is a two-piece barrel with the chamber area and link lug area silver soldered to the back of the barrel. The longitudinal crack goes underneath the reinforced area and the end of the crack is barely visible on the ramp area of the chamber. When the split opened, the bullet left the barrel, the report was not as loud as normal and smoke rolled out of every opening in the pistol. Other than the barrel failure nothing else was damaged; also, there were no injuries.
 

Attachments

  • P4220001a.jpg
    P4220001a.jpg
    37.4 KB · Views: 320
  • P4220011a.jpg
    P4220011a.jpg
    59.4 KB · Views: 292
Sorry to hear about your failure

No AMT jokes from me. The late Harry Sanford was a friend of mine and a Great pioneer in firearms. He did build the very first production stainless steel semi autos not to mention designing the legendary Auto Mag.

AMT%20LS%20small.jpg


I love both my Hardballer LS and Javelina LS.

Good luck finding a replacement barrel. Odds are you will have to get someone like Irv Stone to make you one.
 
Not meaning to cast doubt on your cleaning regime, but I wonder if lead build up was responsible. I guess the other favorite would have to be a flaw in the barrel from the day it was made.
 
Last edited:
Glad to hear there were no injury's to shooter or additional damage to the gun! I had one of the early Hardballer's, didn't work, had it back to AMT on three different times with no joy and three gunsmiths later got it to sorta function. The dealer where I bought it wouldn't take it in trade as they were "bad guns" and finally got rid of it somewhere. Now this whole thing with the Hardballer's was sad and I wish AMT could have made it a go of it with them. I mean at the time a stainless "Gold Cup" what's not to like?
 
Last edited:
The way I read it, it was the load not the gun...to run max loads of Bullyseye in anything is going to HAMMER the chamber area of any firearm as the pressure buildup from Bullyeye is very fast and the pressure curve very tight. Wrong powder for max loads.

Bob
 
I disagree. 18,000 psi is the same with bullseye or Unique.

Bullseye is THE powder for a 45.

Bummer on the split barrel, But if you have been shooting pins for 5 years, I envy you.

David
 
Over the five years how many rounds went through that barrel? How often was the barrel shot until it was very hot? Just wondering what fatigued the steel and lead to that crack. Could have been improperly heat treated from the begining...hard to say.
 
Sounds like an overload. I saw a 1911 kaboom like that. Lots of smoke and light report. The slide and barrel split. It was a Colt. The gun shop that sold him the reloads got him a new pistol.

It is possible the bullet short seated itself on chambering. That can raise pressures.
 
Sorry to hear about your failure

No AMT jokes from me. The late Harry Sanford was a friend of mine and a Great pioneer in firearms. He did build the very first production stainless steel semi autos not to mention designing the legendary Auto Mag.

AMT%20LS%20small.jpg


I love both my Hardballer LS and Javelina LS.

Good luck finding a replacement barrel. Odds are you will have to get someone like Irv Stone to make you one.

I don’t have anything but good things to say about the AMT Hardballer. (Shot but never owned an AUTOMAG). But, there are plenty of detractors about the company’s various products over the years. When the Hardballer came out it was one of the earliest competitors for Colt’s Government Model – now it seems everyone makes a 1911. The Hardballer had a Gold Cup style trigger/stop, extended safety and adjustable sights right out of the box plus it was all stainless steel.

When the Long Slide came out I had to have one because I had shot a friend’s Clark “Long Heavy Slide” in Bullseye matches and liked the longer sight radius. The Hardballer wasn’t a Bullseye gun but when we started shooting “pins” it was a logical choice with its longer sight radius and higher velocity. Right out of the box mine had a great trigger too and fed 185 grain wadcutter 200 grain SWC and 230 round-nose cast bullets out of any brand magazine. About the only changes I made to shoot pins was to add an arched mainspring housing and put on Pachmayer grips. The Pachmayer grips had a metal liner which I thought was good insurance since I’d seen another .45 blow out the unsupported base of a cartridge case. The case failure on the other guy’s pistol blew out the magazine, split the wood grips the guy was using and left him with a smarting hand.

Somewhere along the line the rear sight failed so I had my local ‘smith mill in better front and rear sights.

Finding a replacement barrel was actually easy. Sarco sells 6 and 7 inch 1911 barrels for about $70. The one I got was almost a drop-in fit but I did selectively fit a new barrel bushing out of my stock of .45 Auto parts. The new barrel also got ‘ported’. To me it’s the perfect set-up for knocking down bowling pins.
 

Attachments

  • P4220018a.jpg
    P4220018a.jpg
    83.8 KB · Views: 95
  • P4220019a.jpg
    P4220019a.jpg
    73.9 KB · Views: 96
  • P4220021a.jpg
    P4220021a.jpg
    81.3 KB · Views: 98
Glad no one was injuried. On the other hand, you are a hero to all 1911 owners!!!

Finally, someone who has almost worn out a 1911 by actually shooting it as intended by it's creator, John Moses Browning!!

I say that you should be warded the Bronze "crossed 1911 magazine" medal with walnut leaf clusters!
 
Back
Top