Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics

Notices

Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics Post Your General Gun Topics and Non-S&W Gun and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-22-2015, 11:33 AM
ATLAS666 ATLAS666 is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.

Hello, im new in guns & somebody selling me this .38 special ctg & i dont see any serial # on it only letter "H" i will attach some pics & is that the right bullets? i dont know about bullets # & letters meaning. thanks
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P_20150722_225219_HDR.jpg (165.2 KB, 237 views)
File Type: jpg P_20150722_225142_HDR_1.jpg (179.8 KB, 265 views)
File Type: jpg P_20150722_230411.jpg (107.2 KB, 216 views)
File Type: jpg P_20150722_230500.jpg (99.6 KB, 199 views)
File Type: jpg P_20150722_223605_HDR.jpg (90.8 KB, 197 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-22-2015, 11:38 AM
holeshot123's Avatar
holeshot123 holeshot123 is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 105
Likes: 42
Liked 94 Times in 32 Posts
Default

Real or fake, looks like a ***. you might want to save your hard earned money and look for a revolver in better condition.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-22-2015, 11:40 AM
410bore's Avatar
410bore 410bore is offline
SWCA Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,210
Likes: 6,430
Liked 9,646 Times in 1,800 Posts
Default

FAKE..........
__________________
Kris
OGCA, NRA LM
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 07-22-2015, 11:44 AM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,917
Likes: 996
Liked 19,058 Times in 9,318 Posts
Default

Someone went to a lot of extra trouble (barrel and frame stamps, stock medallions, etc.) to make an obvious non-S & W revolver to appear like one. Finish, appearance of parts, proportions are also incorrect. Run, do not walk from this one.
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 07-22-2015, 11:52 AM
ATLAS666 ATLAS666 is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

thanks for the info guys.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-22-2015, 12:07 PM
Arik Arik is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Outside Philadelphia Pa
Posts: 16,601
Likes: 7,342
Liked 17,200 Times in 7,303 Posts
Default

How do you guys tell it's fake? I just see a beat up J frame. And the Serial number would be on the bottom of the grip anyway
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-22-2015, 12:11 PM
ATLAS666 ATLAS666 is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

theres no serial #, so thats why i ask you guys. as far i know legit guns has serial #
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-22-2015, 12:22 PM
THE PILGRIM's Avatar
THE PILGRIM THE PILGRIM is online now
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Posts: 13,903
Likes: 8,106
Liked 25,441 Times in 8,554 Posts
Default

Keep looking! This is not a gun you want.
__________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-22-2015, 02:10 PM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is online now
SWCA Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 8,699
Likes: 473
Liked 5,751 Times in 3,213 Posts
Default

That is a most interesting specimen. Its a shame there is no serial number. If it had numbers, I would roll on a few bucks just for the research factor. As it stands, its red hot. Fake or not, probably is, run now from it.
Its glowing trouble.
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-22-2015, 02:28 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,917
Likes: 996
Liked 19,058 Times in 9,318 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arik View Post
How do you guys tell it's fake? I just see a beat up J frame. And the Serial number would be on the bottom of the grip anyway
The forward frame is too wide.
The trigger is not S & W, and both it and the hammer are blued. (If it were just the finish it could have been redone).
The blue and polish are not up to S & W standard (ditto).
The teeth on the ratchet are the wrong shape.
The tip of the ejector is not S & W.
The rear frame (backstrap) comes up too high.
An S & W J frame would be stamped ".38 S & W SPL." on the right barrel; it would not be spelled out.

__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #11  
Old 07-22-2015, 02:48 PM
jrd1976 jrd1976 is offline
SWCA Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 704
Likes: 63
Liked 321 Times in 138 Posts
Default

Fake.
In pic # 2 and # 3 you can see the sideplate comes up to the bottom of the cylinder window, all the way to the cylinder stop.
Not so on a real S&W.

Also in Pic # 2 it appears to have a strain screw. J Frames do not have strain screws.

In Pics # 4 and 5, one of the tips of the extracter star is pointed.
There is an offset hole in the cylinder face under the odd tip.

Run from it. and Welcome to the Forum.

Last edited by jrd1976; 07-22-2015 at 06:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 07-22-2015, 02:56 PM
Arik Arik is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Outside Philadelphia Pa
Posts: 16,601
Likes: 7,342
Liked 17,200 Times in 7,303 Posts
Default

Thanks guys!

Could it be a Taurus?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-22-2015, 03:34 PM
S&WIowegan S&WIowegan is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Iowa
Posts: 4,106
Likes: 14,444
Liked 3,764 Times in 1,784 Posts
Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arik View Post
Thanks guys!

Could it be a Taurus?
It's not that good.
__________________
Bob.
SWCA 1821
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-22-2015, 04:43 PM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is online now
SWCA Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 8,699
Likes: 473
Liked 5,751 Times in 3,213 Posts
Default

This revolver is very reminiscent of some of the products from the Khyber Pass in the Spin Ghar Mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Look at the design under S&W in the brass grip medallion . Sure looks mid-Eastern to me. Along with the overall quality. Saw a lot of this stuff in the 1980s. Just an observation.
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-22-2015, 06:01 PM
opoefc opoefc is offline
US Veteran
SWCA Founding Member
Absent Comrade
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA. USA
Posts: 10,532
Likes: 3,529
Liked 6,883 Times in 2,796 Posts
Default

Some years ago, S&W marketed a Non-Gun copy of a J fame revolver. At first glance I thought this might be one of them, however on closer examination, I'm agreeing with Mike. It has the earmarks of a middle eastern or Asian copy. Ed.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-22-2015, 07:48 PM
ATLAS666 ATLAS666 is offline
Member
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

by the way im from Philippines
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-23-2015, 01:20 PM
opoefc opoefc is offline
US Veteran
SWCA Founding Member
Absent Comrade
Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg. Need help to identify real or fake .38 S&W special ctg.  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA. USA
Posts: 10,532
Likes: 3,529
Liked 6,883 Times in 2,796 Posts
Default

That further leads me to believe the origin of this gun is from Asia, as in the years past, you saw many examples of these Asian made guns in the Philippines and other far eastern counties. You could see little children sitting with a few files and a piece of old railroad rail that would be turned into a copy of a Thompson sub machine gun in a few weeks. Ed.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
M 13 Aircrewman Real or Fake? deh47 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 21 12-10-2017 07:25 PM
How to tell real Ivory from fake Gatorbaiter The Lounge 15 06-20-2011 04:03 AM
Real or fake Fab mwg? ill_noiz Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 8 10-06-2010 04:43 PM
Sound Suppressors - Real and Fake Brett248Vista Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 30 06-04-2010 09:26 AM
A Winchester Mystery - Real Deal or Fake. gizamo Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 15 11-27-2009 04:47 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:41 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)