HOUSTON RICK
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I did not want to hijack the current Mossberg shotgun thread, but would like to ask what the difference, if any other than price, is generically between the Remington and Mossberg pump shotguns? I am a Remington owner. Thank you.
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Remington versus Mossberg
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Twin action bars on the 870 and upper vs lower safety is about all I can think of. Keep in mind though that there is a world of difference between the lower grades of each compared to their better quality siblings, I am talking about the 870 Express vs something like the 870 Police or the Mossie 500 vs the 590.
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A Rem. pump will wear out a truckload of Mossberg pumps. Larry
hangnoose
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REMINGTON VS MOSSBERG
An 870 Wingmaster vs a MB 500, the Rem all day long.
A 590 vs any Rem other than a Wingmaster, the 590 all day.
A Wingmaster vs a 590 is a much closer/personal choice. Both are fine guns for their intended purposes. Some prefer the tang safety on the MB (southpaws come to mind), 8+1 capacity of 2 3/4 or 3" rounds, the position of the slide release, a bayonet lug if that is your thang, more options of finishes/ bbl.'s/stocks & after market stuff, the loading ramp which is out of the way on the MB which "may" speed up loading, are features that may sway some buyers. The quality of materials, looks, class, history/track record, fit/finish/durability I would give hands down to the Wingmaster. I just bought a used 590, from a retail/pawn, which I always recommend against. Had their been a Wingmaster of similar style/price, I could have easily gone that way & been just as happy. The MB is certainly not a wish list or bragging rights shotgun, but will do everything I need just fine. All the tactikewl add ons like side saddles, adjustable pistol grip, or pistol/ grip stocks etc etc, may be fine, but if you need time & tools to remove them before you can field strip the shotgun for cleaning, is more trouble than worth IMO.
An 870 Wingmaster vs a MB 500, the Rem all day long.
A 590 vs any Rem other than a Wingmaster, the 590 all day.
A Wingmaster vs a 590 is a much closer/personal choice. Both are fine guns for their intended purposes. Some prefer the tang safety on the MB (southpaws come to mind), 8+1 capacity of 2 3/4 or 3" rounds, the position of the slide release, a bayonet lug if that is your thang, more options of finishes/ bbl.'s/stocks & after market stuff, the loading ramp which is out of the way on the MB which "may" speed up loading, are features that may sway some buyers. The quality of materials, looks, class, history/track record, fit/finish/durability I would give hands down to the Wingmaster. I just bought a used 590, from a retail/pawn, which I always recommend against. Had their been a Wingmaster of similar style/price, I could have easily gone that way & been just as happy. The MB is certainly not a wish list or bragging rights shotgun, but will do everything I need just fine. All the tactikewl add ons like side saddles, adjustable pistol grip, or pistol/ grip stocks etc etc, may be fine, but if you need time & tools to remove them before you can field strip the shotgun for cleaning, is more trouble than worth IMO.
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mrrick
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IIRC USMC uses Mossberg. That should mean something.
CATI1835
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The USMC uses the Mossberg 590A1 pump and Benelli M4 semi auto.
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The Mossberg 500 guns have aluminum receivers. Remington 870s are steel. Don't know how much that matters since I don't have either one, but there it is.
Matter of fact, I think the Remingtons and the Ithaca 37s are the only steel receiver shotguns left.
Magazine Extension - POSSIBLE
Magazine Extension - POSSIBLE for the Remingtons
Yes - the newer ones will need the "dimples" removed.
Only possible for certain models by Mossberg
Remington is my choice.
Both are a good value.
Bekeart
Magazine Extension - POSSIBLE for the Remingtons
Yes - the newer ones will need the "dimples" removed.
Only possible for certain models by Mossberg
Remington is my choice.
Both are a good value.
Bekeart
Browning BPS...Steel receiver.
getoff
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870 for me. the mossberg goes to steel for the 590 series, where ALL remingtons are steel. if this tells you how much i love the 870, my sons name is Remington... my wife and mother in-law still think its for Remington Steele. snuck one by 'em both! score one for Dad.
Fishinfool
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I own a Mossy 500 from the 1970's. Set it up as a slug gun. Also own several 870's, and have worked on quite a few more, as they were issue weapons. Taken apart, the Remingtons are the better made and fit shotgun. But, both have been reliable to a fault, and I have put a lot of slugs thru that 500 without issue. The top slide safety of the 500 is cheaply made, and I did crack it by over tightening a loose screw, but an easy fix.
Larry
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Personally, I would take the Remington over the Mossberg any day. Please note that while the 870 Wingmaster has an all steel receiver, the receiver of the 870 Express is an alloy.
I will admit that I have a bona fide bias against Mossberg products. Back in the mid 70s, I was shooting a Jr Smallbore match using a Mossberg 144, and the bolt handle separated from the bolt body, and the rearward sliding bolt destroyed a pair of shooting glasses. I have not picked up a Mossberg since.
I will admit that I have a bona fide bias against Mossberg products. Back in the mid 70s, I was shooting a Jr Smallbore match using a Mossberg 144, and the bolt handle separated from the bolt body, and the rearward sliding bolt destroyed a pair of shooting glasses. I have not picked up a Mossberg since.
LoboGunLeather
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During my service (1968-72) including a couple of trips to Vietnam I always took comfort in the fact that we were trained and equipped with the best weapons and equipment that the lowest bidder could provide.
24 years in law enforcement I used Remington 870, Ithaca 37, and Mossberg 500. Now I own one shotgun, and it is a Remington 870.
Nuff said.
Have owned a bunch of 870s over the years and a few Mossies.(also owned a few Ithacas)
To be honest there both good guns and if I went to a store to by a defensive shot gun if they only had one companies gun in stock I would not be upset and just get it.
My home gun is a Mossie 12 gauge with a 8 round factory magazine and if things go real bad I feel I'm well prepared.
If I had a Remington with a longer magazine I would feel the same way.
I do appreciate where the safety is on a Mossie vs a Remington, but it is not a deal maker or deal breaker.
To be honest there both good guns and if I went to a store to by a defensive shot gun if they only had one companies gun in stock I would not be upset and just get it.
My home gun is a Mossie 12 gauge with a 8 round factory magazine and if things go real bad I feel I'm well prepared.
If I had a Remington with a longer magazine I would feel the same way.
I do appreciate where the safety is on a Mossie vs a Remington, but it is not a deal maker or deal breaker.
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35Rem
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Incorrect. ALL 870's have steel receivers Milled from a solid billet.
I'm a Remington guy, but the Mossbergs are fine guns in their own right. I know there are over 10 Million 870s. Maybe 11 by now.
Kind of a Ford vs Chevy question.
RJJ 1971
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Mossberg for the price
Remington for the history
Nuff said.
Remington for the history
Nuff said.
From WWII through Vietnam, the military went with the Winchester Model 12. The reason? Simple...quality. Later, they also went with the Remington 870. Same reason. Good solid quality.
Then, as years passed, for reasons best unsaid so I don't get "dinged," quality seemed to take a backseat to the "low bidder." As was mentioned, the Marines use the Mossberg now. The reason? Low bidder.
I've shot both the Mossberg and the Remington. They're both good, but there is a difference. To tell the difference, in my opinion, all you have to do is cycle the action.
Here's my choice.
Then, as years passed, for reasons best unsaid so I don't get "dinged," quality seemed to take a backseat to the "low bidder." As was mentioned, the Marines use the Mossberg now. The reason? Low bidder.
I've shot both the Mossberg and the Remington. They're both good, but there is a difference. To tell the difference, in my opinion, all you have to do is cycle the action.
Here's my choice.
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hangnoose
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KNOWLEDGEABLE OR NOT,
You need to consider which Remy you are comparing to which Mossy. Not all Rems are Wingmasters & not all Mossy's are 590's. At one time Rem 870's were a low cost alternative to Winchester mdl 12's and Ithica's. There are a wide variety of features within each model, of both brands, with certain specifics bound to please someone. Millions of unknowledgeable MB owners/lovers would strongly disagree Soda. Neither are exactly a crown jewel type gun. Both were made to be relatively inexpensive enough to sell to average Joes. R-U trolling for a fight?
You need to consider which Remy you are comparing to which Mossy. Not all Rems are Wingmasters & not all Mossy's are 590's. At one time Rem 870's were a low cost alternative to Winchester mdl 12's and Ithica's. There are a wide variety of features within each model, of both brands, with certain specifics bound to please someone. Millions of unknowledgeable MB owners/lovers would strongly disagree Soda. Neither are exactly a crown jewel type gun. Both were made to be relatively inexpensive enough to sell to average Joes. R-U trolling for a fight?
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