So I have one already and I want another one for a truck gun.
You can find em for $270 - $300 new, magazines are $17 - $20, muzzle brakes $15 - $20, forward grip are $15 - $20 on amazon.
They shoot 9mm, 40, 45, and now 380, they are very compact and fun to shoot accurately up to 100 yards.
So why shouldn't I want another one?
You can't use - it's a Hi Point as a reason.
I've got over 3000 rounds through mine already with no issues.

So let me hear why I shouldn't get another one...

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You shouldn't get just another one, you should get one in each caliber.

If I could afford it, I probably would - except 380.

One reason might be that by the time you purchase all of your add
ons you are very close to the price of a basic AR 15 carbine which fires
a much more effective round than the handgun rounds. And should you
decide later to sell it I'm sure you know which will prove to have been
the better investment.

I have the 9mm and love it. Never an issue with what type of ammunition it will work with, and that includes my reloads.

Here is a photo of my copy.


So yes, please get yourself another one. Sorry, I can't think of a single negative to this firearm other than resale value...but since I never resale anything, from my viewpoint, that isn't even part of my equation.

I have very little to no use at all for a long gun, but I'm tempted to buy one of those myself.
Just in case the Zombies show up I suppose.

Sorry, I can't help you.

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If you need a rifle, then you ought get a rifle, not an elongated 9mm with a stock. I actually like my Hi Point .45 pistol. I would not buy a carbine version of it. Limited capacity, limited range and limited power. I would get an old Krag cut into a carbine or a .30/30 or one of the various scout rifles.

Coming from someone who used to own a 4595TS. I did the same. I farkled mine up. Hi-Point's aren't bad firearms. They are reliable. They went bang every time I pulled the trigger. As long as I kept up my marksmanship end of the equation, they are both precise and accurate.

Proof below:



I also thought it would be great to have a pistol caliber carbine and a pistol that used the same mags.



My single gripe is magazine capacity. In 9mm and 40 S.W. it's 10 rounds. In .45 ACP (which I used to own), it's 9-rounds. Keeping both as emergency weapons securely stowed in my vehicle's trunk, I had a total of 20 rounds of .45 ACP (transitioning between carbine and pistol) before I am forced to reload. While magazine capacity isn't an issue on a one-way range, it is a concern of mine if I'm ever on a two-way range.

My other train of logical thought is that if I am in a situation that is so bad that I must deploy an impossible to conceal long gun in public, then that long gun should be a rifle cartridge caliber carbine so that I have every advantage possible.

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Never mind what I said. I am delayed right now on it, but found and am buying a Hi Point carbine in 9mm. I still don't like pistol caliber carbines, but it was like new in box with four mags for around $250. So...eh. I don't know what I will use it for. I guess recreational shooting.

Something tells me you'll like it and find a use for it.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the same carbine used by the primates in 'Planet of the Apes'.

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9mm is cheap, but i would like a 45 carbine. Why? Well just because!!! Fun is the main reason, cheap fun even better. I think it a good choice for a "truck gun" or in my case a trunk gun. I'll be pissed if ANY firearm is stolen from my vehicle. Had a Ruger P89 stolen from my car and was pissed! but my tack driving 222rem was also stolen, and I was VERY pissed. Learned a hard lesson dadgumit. Still have a firearm in my car, but one that is not "dear to my heart" but one that I shoot well. My good stuff is kept closer to hand, and at times left at home. Like the afore mentioned Ruger, it is not a bank breaker, and fully reliable, and one I shoot well. I would gladly partner it with a hipoint carbine! Something that shoots reliably and accurately (not talking match accuracy). Close range minute of man, feral dog, wounded deer is good for me. Really would never hope to use it for anything but targets at the range, but...Yes it's ugly, no way around that! But I would view it as a tool, and a range toy. Something that can be replaced on my meager budget, and can provide good service. I don't have one, but I am looking for a trunk carbine that is cheap, reliable and has decent accuracy. Been using my Win. 94 in 357 Mag. But would hate to lose it, and don't always carry it. With th Hipoint, I don't think I would be afraid to carry it always.

OP, if you already have one and you're pleased with how it works, I say grab another.

IF I were to try and "talk you out" of buying another, I say the following: They really are ugly. They are also overly heavy and clunky. They also have a very limited magazine capacity. My son was given one and neither of us has even tried it. It does nothing for me.

For me, I'd rather spend another $100-125 and pick up a Kel Tec Sub 2000. I've recently seen (the 40 caliber version) locally for $400. The 9mm versions go for maybe $50 more. The new Gen 2 fixes most of the issues listed above. It also folds into an incredibly small size. With magazines up to 33 rounds and a much lighter weight, it would be worth the extra money to me.

Those damn dirty apes and their carbines.

They are ugly
They are limited on capacity
They are heavy (for their size and caliber)
But, if I got one for free (like your son). Think I'd seriously shoot it, before saying anything about em.

I was thinking about getting another 9mm, but now I'm going to look into the 40sw. This way I can have a lil something different at the range.

My thoughts are...
No sentimental or expense attachment to it.
It's reliable and accurate (for me and my capabilities).
It's a carbine to help get me "out of a situation".
Not a carbine to "stand and fight" with.
I have others rifles that can do that.

If you liked the first one, you should buy as many as you think you have a need for.

The Hi-Point is an ugly and reliable gun that has a number of attributes that make it less desirable than more-expensive guns that fulfill a similar purpose.

That doesn't mean that a skilled, and practiced, shooter can't achieve the results on target that are achieved by guns with a pricier pedigree.

Shoot often.
Shoot well.

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What would Skeeter do?

Describes the carbine perfectly.

I think it's ugly. My son thinks it looks "cool." It IS heavy. Mine has been 100% reliable so far, and we chronoed some 124gr FMJ through it at right around 1600fps a few days ago. We only have a couple of hundred rounds through it so far, but I got a deal on it. NIB for just over $250 thanks to a small LGS and Gallery of Guns. Everybody else local wanted right at $300 for one. It is fun to shoot. Recoil is mild - slightly more than .223 through the AR.

It was snowing so I did not get to shoot mine yet. It came with one of the newest style Promag 15 round mags. This sort no longer voids the warranty and looks like it will work.

I do not even think the gun is that heavy. Compared to an Enfield or Mosin it is not bad at all, even when those are cut into carbines.

But... Even though it seems neat and is growing on me, it does still fall into the pistol caliber carbine - good idea or not -debate. In the past I always bought rifle caliber carbines. I could see the Hi Point being useful if, for example, one usually carried a small .380 or J frame .38 revolver.

I still have a niggling concern about one in 9mm , or even .40 or .45, and what happens if a given situation might require a rifle. I think I will likely still pick up a Mossberg MVP Patrol rifle in .308 or the like.

Cheaper to feed one than a Krag.

I have two of them my first purchased guns
because they are low priced. I had problems with the .40 first
may have been my fault , a bad reload sent it back, they
fixed it and it has been shooting with no problems since.
The nine had intermittent chambering and jamming,
sent it back , has been ok since.
Good customer service. Like you say many accessories available
reasonably priced

I got one of the old pro mags - junk. Used it twice haven't used/tweaked it since. I've got 6 other factory 10 rd mags, so I'm content.

You pick up the MVP in 308. Def do me a favor and give us a range report. Been admiring one of those for a couple of years now.

Well, an "ugly and reliable gun that has a number of attributes that make it less desirable than more-expensive guns that fulfill a similar purpose."
Also, I have been called part of that phrase.

I also own one in a 40. It has never failed to go bang.

I will post about on the board when I get an MVP. I wanted one of the Scout combos, but they are hard to come by, so I may just get a patrol or patrol combo.

For a time, Hi Point said using the old style hi cap Promags would void the warranty of a carbine. It has to do with the last round bolt hold open. However Promag redesigned the mags and aapparently this is no longer an issue. It was a new style one that came with mine and it actually seems very well made. If you have an old one, you might want to try shipping it back to Promag to be swapped out.

Think I'll look up promag and see what they say.

I threw a cheap scope and bi-pod on mine. My family and I use it for outdoor plinking. From a bench, it is easy for my grandkids to shoot.

It has given us over two years of fun.

Can't ask more than that.

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Uglier than a Taurus Curve!!

That's not possible.
Plus it's more functional.

I wanted a long gun that I could have fun plinkin' with and use as an HD gun if need be, after my 9c. I stayed with the 9mm, as it's what I already have, it's more readily available than .22 LR (around here) and is cheaper than most other calibers. I took it to the range and zeroed it with he stock iron sights and I was quite impressed. Low recoil, accurate and just plain fun. It helps it was cheap! Yeah, I'm putting a little more into it than the cost of the gun, but it's mine and I'm having fun with it. I don't buy stuff for the resale value, I buy them for my use, be it guns, guitars, amplifiers or whatever.



Keep in mind what it is and what it's designed for. It's a pistol caliber carbine, not a rifle caliber carbine. For me, it's to punch holes in paper, but it may become my primary bedside gun, it shoots so well. It's for close to intermediate ranges up to about 75-100 yards. For SD/HD, it's easier to aim and control than a pistol, when you in that adrenaline dump from a life or death situation. At 10 rounds, I won't be assaulting a fighting position with it, but that's not what it's for.

If you haven't shot one, you're missing out on a fun gun. It's not a be all, do all gun, but no gun is. It's a niche gun and it fill that niche quite well.

I had a 4095TS and I can tell you it will have perps scrambling for cover. I bought it for HD and kept Hornady 40sw 165 CTXs in it. The mag holds 10 and one in pipe and my Sig P250 only have two more than the carbine.

The safety on the carbine is positive locking and strong spring that it cannot cause AD/NDs as it blocks the sear holding the firing pin directly.

I shot it lots of time at the range with no problems at all and sighted in at 25 yards. It's meant for CQB.

I traded it in for my MP15 but I miss the fun sucker. I shot it at the pistol range and they always ask me what the hell is that?

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Another photo of my copy of the Hi-Point, along with my 9mm M&P. I had bought the Hi-Point for 3 gun fun, trying to keep my ammo variety down. It really is a great shooter.

I have a tribal cop friend in Montana who fills his doe tags every year with one in 9mm. I gave him a couple of boxes of 147 grain Hydra Shoks about 15 years ago and he still has plenty left.

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