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A new lever gun from Henry, with detachable box magazine.
This looks like an enjoyable design, that should be available mid-summer. Someone's got to make a short stroke kit for it, so that it can load extended AK mags.
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/
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I dunno, MSRP $1015 (maybe $800 actual?) in a market to compete with classics such as the Savage 99C, Winchester 88, or even the Browning BLR.
Not a configuration I see a great market for. I wish 'em luck.
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If I was into lever action rifles I'd get one. I hate stuffing rounds into those little holes.
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...or even the Browning BLR.
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Actually, looking at this rifle on the Henry site, it pretty much resembles a BLR. Did Henry and Browning maybe make a deal?
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Actually, looking at this rifle on the Henry site, it pretty much resembles a BLR. Did Henry and Browning maybe make a deal?
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I don't think so - the BLR's trigger moves with the lever, among other details.
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Actually, looking at this rifle on the Henry site, it pretty much resembles a BLR. Did Henry and Browning maybe make a deal?
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One difference, the trigger on the BLR is on the lever, on the Henry it's on the receiver.
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If I was into lever action rifles I'd get one. I hate stuffing rounds into those little holes.
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No loading gate to stuff on this one - it has a box magazine.
I bet it sells well. I've owned a couple of BLRs, but I never liked that Made In Japan on the baŕrel. It will be nice to have an American made version.
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No loading gate to stuff on this one - it has a box magazine.
I bet it sells well. I've owned a couple of BLRs, but I never liked that Made In Japan on the baŕrel. It will be nice to have an American made version.
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Right. ....that's what I'm saying
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it depends on what cartridges its chambered for. if they chamber it for the 308 family of cartridges,ability to use spitzer bullets, it may be a nice gun. but if its a handgun round only gun, whats the point?
(edit) i just read the link to henry, it will chamber 223,243,& 308. this may be a real nice gun, time to wait for the reviews.
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I had a Henry .22LR 001 lever action.
Cost me $215 about 18 years ago.
Used i to teach all me kids how to shoot.
It was a very fine rifle and I would not hesitate to buy another Henry product.
I am afraid, however, that Henry will face stiff competition from the new Winchester 70, Browning BLR, and the Savage, Kimber and Remington bolt actions.
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At that price I'd just buy a proven BLR.
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It's most likely a very nice rifle, but doesn't do anything for me personally.
My Savage 1899, Mod 99 and Win 1895 fill the none tube feed Leveraction section of the safe.
No 'scopes ,,my preference. But a big downer to most these days.
..Henry keeps chuggin' along,,and that's good for the sport and the industry.
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Does it have an actual blue finish? Would anyone else like to see a Henry .22 lever gun with a first class finish?
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Looks like a real nice rifle. I love that Henry keeps evolving, growing and offering new products. Great made in USA offerings, and they seem to be tuned in to their customers. I'll definitely consider one of these as another option for a hunting rifle.
I broke down last year and bought a Henry .22 pump action rifle. Nice gun that I love to shoot. Not a big fan of the coated receivers on some of thei rifles, but nice quality walnut, and a solid/smooth action. Mine has the octagon barrel with nice bluing. Just shot over the weekend, hits where I aim!
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I'll wait on the reviews as well. Reserve judgment.
In the Ad they claim accuracy but don't give any
numbers or test results.
Why would you buy for a "grand" if it won't shoot
inside an inch at 100 yds.?
You can after all buy a tack driving bolt gun (with glass)
for that money.
If they perform well i would probably be a buyer of one in .243
around 8 hundred.
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I'll stick with my 94AE-10 .357's and no stinking magazines!
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Dang you guys are some harsh critics. I for one think it's really cool. A .223 lever action and the magazine fits flush unlike the Browning. Every modern Henry I've seen and handled has been well built and polished very nicely. They hold up to what they were design to do. I'm sure this model will be no different.
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Does it have an actual blue finish? Would anyone else like to see a Henry .22 lever gun with a first class finish?
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I agree. If they put out a lever action .22 line with real blued/forged steel receivers, they would be the nicest lever guns out there. I'm sure they produce the coated/covered metal receiver guns to keep costs in line for the .22 market, but there has to be a healthy market for a higher end product.
Until my recent purchase of the .22 pump action, I've avoided Henry's for this reason. I bought the Marlin, Browning, and older Winchesters instead. Have to say, I really like do like the Henry, although I'd really love it if it had forged/blued receiver...
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Just bought HRC leaver action steel frame in 41mag. This gun was dead on right out of the box with factory ammo and even better with my reloads.
Couple years ago I bought my girls both Henry 22 golden boy and a big boy in 38/357mag for Christmas. Got the same performance from them as I did from the 41mag.
If this gun is offered in .308 I'll definitely buy one!
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Will never purchase a "Henry" rifle. This company's success, in part, is based on a fraudulent history that they continue to spin: "Thank you for purchasing your new Henry Lever Action
Rifle. We are proud to have crafted this rifle for you in the
great tradition of Henry Repeating Arms Company which
dates back to 1860 when the first effective, lever-action
repeating rifle was developed by our founder, Benjamin Tyler
Henry"
That is a complete fabrication. At least with the Miroku Winchesters they don't attempt to shade the truth that they are made under license. I would have much more respect for Henry had they licensed intellectual property instead of conjuring up a fake history.
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Which part is complete fabrication
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I have a Henry .22 and .22 mag, great little guns, smooth, accurate and made in the USA. What's not to like?
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Looks to me like some folks around here need to check the details. My Big Boy in 44 win mag has a solid brass alloy receiver not coated very strong. No problem with 240gr. SWC over 24gr of 4227. SMOKEN round. It is one of the smoothest shooting levers I've ever handled. In fact as pistol calibers go it is a big time tack driver. Whats wrong with paying $700 for a very nice lever gun?
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Henry Repeating Arms Company has no ties to the past. They are hijacking the history of New Haven Arms Company.
Specifically these parts are fraudulent: "...of Henry Repeating Arms Company which dates back to 1860." AND "... our founder, Benjamin Tyler Henry." Benjamin Tyler Henry never founded anything. He was an employee of Oliver Winchester.
Henry Repeating Arms Company has no history dating back to 1860. Hell, I don't think they have a history dating back to 1960 (it is actually 1996).
The original Henry Rifle was manufactured by the "New Haven Arms Company." In 1866 Benjamin Henry, angered over what he believed was inadequate compensation, attempted to have the Connecticut legislature award ownership of New Haven Arms to him. The owner of New Haven Arms Company, Oliver Winchester, forestalled the move and reorganized New Haven Arms as the Winchester Repeating Arms Company.
New Haven Arms grew out of the "Volcanic Repeating Arms Company" which was founded by Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson, who of course later formed "Smith and Wesson" once they acquired a licence to the Rollin White patent.
There was no Henry Repeating Arms, until the Imperato's started it. Maybe fine guns, but I don't like the marketing practices.
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Henry Repeating Arms Company has no ties to the past. They are hijacking the history of New Haven Arms Company.
Specifically these parts are fraudulent: "...of Henry Repeating Arms Company which dates back to 1860." AND "... our founder, Benjamin Tyler Henry." Benjamin Tyler Henry never founded anything. He was an employee of Oliver Winchester.
Henry Repeating Arms Company has no history dating back to 1860. Hell, I don't think they have a history dating back to 1960 (it is actually 1996).
The original Henry Rifle was manufactured by the "New Haven Arms Company." In 1866 Benjamin Henry, angered over what he believed was inadequate compensation, attempted to have the Connecticut legislature award ownership of New Haven Arms to him. The owner of New Haven Arms Company, Oliver Winchester, forestalled the move and reorganized New Haven Arms as the Winchester Repeating Arms Company.
New Haven Arms grew out of the "Volcanic Repeating Arms Company" which was founded by Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson, who of course later formed "Smith and Wesson" once they acquired a licence to the Rollin White patent.
There was no Henry Repeating Arms, until the Imperato's started it. Maybe fine guns, but I don't like the marketing practices.
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Oh. So it's like Springfield Armory or Auto Ordnance
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Oh. So it's like Springfield Armory or Auto Ordnance
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Have not looked into Auto Ordnance, but at least with Springfield Armory they do not pretend they are the original US Military Armory. They clearly state that they are not, and do not hide the fact they were founded by the Resse family in 1974.
The equivalent of Henry would be if I started a new revolver company tomorrow called Sammy's Patent Arms Company, and promoted our great tradition of manufacturing revolvers since 1836, since our founding by Samuel Colt.
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Eeh. Springfield skirts around it. Their bio starts with 1777 and the creation of Springfield Armory dispite not having anything to do with it. In 74 the Reese family "rescued Springfield Armory" name
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Henry Repeating Arms Company has no ties to the past. They are hijacking the history of New Haven Arms Company.
Specifically these parts are fraudulent: "...of Henry Repeating Arms Company which dates back to 1860." AND "... our founder, Benjamin Tyler Henry." Benjamin Tyler Henry never founded anything. He was an employee of Oliver Winchester.
Henry Repeating Arms Company has no history dating back to 1860. Hell, I don't think they have a history dating back to 1960 (it is actually 1996).
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Good post, MAJPATT.
Yes, I shared your disapproval for years. My resentment of the company's misleading historical claims kept me from buying a Henry .22 back when I really could have used one. Their appropriation of actual history to "pad their resume" struck me as tantamount to lying and made me doubt the quality of their products. If a person or a company has no integrity in one thing, they probably don't have much anywhere else.
"Stolen valor" isn't just a vice of those guys who claim they were Navy SEALs.
But, you know, I just don't care that much anymore. Life's too short for me to be carrying around resentment on behalf of Benjamin Tyler Henry. If I resented every bit of misleading advertising or deceptive corporate backstory, I'd be a bitter old man.
And that's no way to be.
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Looks to me like some folks around here need to check the details. My Big Boy in 44 win mag has a solid brass alloy receiver not coated very strong. No problem with 240gr. SWC over 24gr of 4227. SMOKEN round. It is one of the smoothest shooting levers I've ever handled. In fact as pistol calibers go it is a big time tack driver. Whats wrong with paying $700 for a very nice lever gun?
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Looks to me like someone needs to check their reading comprehension. Pretty clear that the references to coated/covered receivers were in reference to their .22 line of rifles.
The brass Big Boys are beautiful rifles. Don't like the awkward drop of the stock, but they are very nicely crafted. And, the rifle caliber rifles have steel receivers, but again, references were regarding their .22s (which I like, by the way...).
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This thread has really gone down the pipe, probably headed for a lock.
Getting back on track, I think the new box mag lever is a great addition to the Henry line up. Has anyone seen one in the wild yet?
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At the last Shot Show in Vegas. Roughly mid-July for availability.
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