FYI for anyone interested:

There is Fiocchi .455 Webley ammo for sale on the Colt Forum Classifieds - $58 plus shipping. Has/had 10 boxes available. I have not seen it any cheaper in quite some time.

I hope this post doesn't break any rules. I tried to find a prohibitive rule and couldn't.

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I have no connection to the seller & and don't know him - just FYI.

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Jeb

Fiocchi has released a batch of 455 Eley lately but has not been showing up on big on line supply houses yet. I found 5 boxes at a gun show and bought all 4 for $40 per box and no I am not trying to sell them on Colt forum.

That's good news - I wasn't aware of that. Hopefully it will make a public appearance soon.

Is the ammo you bought actually marked "Eley"?

Thanks,

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I posted wrong it is labeled as WEBLEY

Yep, that's the old run stuff from several years ago. I found several hundred rounds of it a few months ago and bought all the guy had - so much in fact, I sold 200 rounds I think (kept plenty). I wasn't aware of any new production 455 from Hornady or Fiocchi in the last few years. $40 per box was a steal on yours. Good job on that purchase.

The Eley name is a common mistake. When Colt stamped their New Service revolvers, they stamped them Eley because the test ammo they used was manufactured and head-stamped Eley. I think that's how I remember the story. If Colt can make the mistake, I think any of us should be able to.

Congrats on your ammo find,

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Colt marketed their own version of the Mark I cartridge as ".455 Colt". I always thought it was because Colt hated to put anyone else's name on their firearms. I think I have some around somewhere.

Dominion in Canada also called it .455 Colt:

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Just for the heck of it, here's a picture comparing the Mark I and Mark II:

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Here are boxes of Winchester Colt 455 ammo.








This is a 2nd model HE shipped to Winchester in 1915 to use a test gun for 455 ammo.

Quick pic:

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Remember that .455 Colt/MK I ammo is about 100-150 FPS faster than MK II. But I think all MK III and IV flatpoint and HP Manstopper ammo was put up in .455 MK II cases.

Note the three-lobed head on the Colt NS extractor rod shown above. Has anyone seen a .455 NS with the later two-lobed head?

Tex,
I have seen them but I'm not knowledgeable on transitions, dates, qty's, etc. I have R.L. Wilson's "Book of Colt's". If you need something specific, let me know and I'll try to brush-up and let you know. Be forewarned, I'll probably just end up in a pool hall - at least that's how I did most of my studying in youth.

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Texas Star I have a standard New Service and a New Service Target in 455 both have the 3 lobed head as the one jebstuart shows.

Grafs has Fiocchi .455 Webly mkII in stock. $35.99 per box of 50.

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I have only owned one Colt NS in .455, and it w chambered for the Mk II round, as .45ACP could be fired in it because the chambers were shorter than those of a .455 S&W. I bought that Colt from Navy Arms at a gun show in Columbia, SC in 1965 for 22 d0llars, and later traded it off when I discovered that the extractor was to thin to be converted to .45ACP by facing off the rear of the cylinder.

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Is that one military issue or was it made for the civilian market?

I ask because the finish looks so good. The revolver I show in the earlier post above has been refinished, and not particularly well.

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A recent Gun Stories on Outdoor Channel did a really good episode on Webleys. If you haven't seen the show, it's worth watching. Nice to see a Hollywood type (Joe Mantegna) who actually seems to enjoy firearms.

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Interesting front sight.
Nice gun.



The WW I military 455 NS's I have owned had the same finish as a commercial gun, which was very bright at that time like the gun above.

This thread should have been started in Ammo
Since it evolved into a NS discussion, I've moved it to Other Brands.

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Lee Jarrett

One is from 1913 and one from 1915. The 1913 gun has the three lobed extractor knob. and the 1915 gun has the two lobed extractor knob. I have some provenance on them. It would appear that some gentleman purchased them from an "Iron Monger" in 1952 For the princely some of 4 pounds Sterling each.

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That's interesting. The M1917 Colts I have seen are not finished to commercial standards so I thought that might also have been true of the .455 Colts sent to England a bit earlier. Apparently not.

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