Interarms question?

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Did Interarms actually make any guns? I thought they were just an importer/distributor.
I ask because there's a Walther PPK listed for sale locally and the seller says in the description "US-licensed by Walther Germany and quality produced by Interarms".
I've run into this seller before and he generally knows his stuff. Makes me wonder?
 
I'm pretty sure Interarms never actually produced a firearm. Interarms was established as an importer after WWII to redistribute military surplus from Europe in the United States. Owned by High Standard now . . .
 
I think Interarms manufactured PPK pistols under licence by Walther. You can find old ads saying as much.
 
I also do not believe Interarms manufactured firearms. I have a PPK, .32ACP, marked similarly. It says manufactured in the USA and is marked as licenses by Walther, similar (exactly) as yours. But these were actually made by contracting firm in Gadsden, Alabama, Mid-South Industries Inc. Check the link below for more information.

The Walther, Interarms/Ranger, S&W arrangement - WaltherForums
 
What about the Interarms Silvercup 1911 pistols? USGI parts on Essex frames...who assembled them?
 
Sam Cummings, owner of International Armament Corporation, also called Interarmco (later Interarms) and all of its international subsidiaries,* turned a single rifle at a young age into an arms importer and exporter business which did billions of dollars in business. Cummings himself was a billionaire, back when it was a really big deal to be a millionaire.

To my knowledge, the only firearms Interarms was ever alleged to have manufactured were those made under license from Walther at the Ranger manufacturing facility in Gadsden, Alabama. I believe the PPK, the PPK/S and the TPH were made, if memory serves.

Interarms was determined, however, by the federal government, to NOT be the manufacturer of those weapons for the purpose of determining who paid the federal excise tax.**

*Interarmco/Interarms subsidiaries included: Interarms (North American Group); International Armament Corp. (Alexandria, VA); Interarms Manufacturing Division (Midland, VA); Hunters Lodge Division (Alexandria, VA); Oy Interarms AB (Helsinki, Finland); Interarms (Asia) Ltd. (Singapore); Interarms (Argentina) Ltd. (Buenos Aires); Interarms Int'l Ltd. (Nassau, Bahamas); Ferguson Arms Co. (Manchester, England); Interarms Industries S.A. (Panama); Interarms U.K. Ltd (Interarms House), Manchester, England; Whitworth Rifle Co. (U.K.); Farquharson Rifle Co. (U.K.); all of which were affiliated with Cummings International Associates (Monaco).



**From the Court case of INTERNATIONAL ARMAMENT CORP. v. UNITED STATES, 598 F.Supp. 1028 (1984):

"This case presents the issue of whether International Armament Corporation ("Interarms") is a "manufacturer" for purposes of the ten percent federal excise tax imposed on the sale by the "manufacturer, producer, or importer of ... [p]istols [or] [r]evolvers" pursuant to section 4181 of the Internal Revenue Code (I.R.C. § 4181 (1980)). Interarms brings this tax refund action to recover $3,429.10 in excise taxes paid for the quarter ending June 30, 1980.

. . . .

On November 20, 1978, Interarms entered into a contract with the Etowah Manufacturing Company ("Etowah"), whereby Etowah agreed to manufacture and sell, and Interarms agreed to buy, over a five and one-half year period, 250,000 Walther PPK/S semiautomatic pistols (the "Agreement"). The Agreement provided for the manufacture of the following calibers: .380 ACP, .32 ACP, and .22 LR (long rifle). The only weapon that was actually manufactured was a .380 caliber. Etowah later became known as Mid-South Industries, Inc. ("MSI"), an Alabama corporation formed in 1964.

MSI assigned its obligations under the Agreement to Ranger Manufacturing Company ("Ranger"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of MSI. MSI and its subsidiaries employ approximately 1,200 persons and have manufacturing facilities in Gadsden, Alabama, Manchester, Kentucky and Taipei, Taiwan. In 1983, MSI and its subsidiaries had gross revenues exceeding $49 million. Interarms or its affiliates have no ownership interest in MSI, Ranger or other subsidiaries controlled by MSI. MSI is basically a holding company.

Interarms furnished Ranger with the Walther design specifications for the pistols. On that basis, Ranger had to design and develop a process to manufacture the pistols. Neither Walther nor Interarms furnished them with any advice or information on how to undertake this task.

. . . .

Based on the foregoing analysis, the court makes the following conclusions of law:

(1) this court, has jurisdiction over Interarms' refund suit and the Government's counterclaim pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1346(a)(1);

(2) Interarms is not the "manufacturer," under section 4181 of the Internal Revenue Code, of the Walther PPK/S model pistols sold during the quarters ending June 30, 1980, through September 30, 1982;

(3) Interarms is entitled to recover the sum of $3,429.10 for the quarter ending June 30, 1980; and

(4) the Government's counterclaim is DENIED.

An appropriate order shall issue."
 
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Ah, the good ole days of Interarmsco and Ye Olde Hunter.....

They had an operation down on Prince Street in Alexandria Virginia; right on the Potomac River.

Great place back in the early '60's to hang out and pick up some real inexpensive overseas firearms. Argentina Mausers for nine bucks and such - barrels full of them......too bad I was a lowly enlisted man at the time!!!

He really was an International Arms Dealer!!!:eek:

Edit: I found a little history here: Interarms and Potomac Arms
 
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Road rat: I did some business there at Potomac when I was working in foggy bottom, that's a good pic of that old building. Haven't seen it since '71.
 
I have a new stainless PPK in my collection, which has Interarms on the side, I have a TPH which has it too. I read somewhere where a company named Ranger actually made some of these pistols, but I am not certain. I do know the Interarms PPK is more well thought of than the S&W models. I had problems understanding this, as S&W has been making quality handguns for a long time. It was explained to me that they began altering the design of the Walthers. That is a no-no.
 
What about the Interarms Silvercup 1911 pistols? USGI parts on Essex frames...who assembled them?

I always figured that InterArms themselves or some contracted local job-shop assembled the Silver Cup 45's.
Cheap plentiful USGI surplus parts and Essex frames,,most all the slides if not all are Rem-Rand. Must have found a box-car full some where. BBls are most all Hi-Standard war surplus and were new.
Essex frames,,everyone was using Essex frames,,Detonics, AMT, Crown City
, investment casting made it all possible.

I'd think if the guns were assembled/manufactured in a foreign country they would have required an 'import marking' on them effective 1986 coming into the US. I don't recall ever seeing any, but I/A surely could have handled the import side of it no problem!
Boxes and paper work are marked 'Manf in the USA',,but the words 'made' and 'man'f can have very narrow legal meanings.

It's just my guess of course and no better than any other.
 
"They had an operation down on Prince Street in Alexandria Virginia; right on the Potomac River. Great place back in the early '60's to hang out and pick up some real inexpensive overseas firearms."

I lived in the DC area back in the early 1960s. I hung out there too when I had the time (mainly when I was working the night shift). Amazing place.
 
Did Interarms actually make any guns? [...]
Interarms did manufacture guns. In 1976 Interarms built a 25,000 square foot production facility in Midland Virginia to manufacture the Virginian Dragoon single action revolver. There were about 70 staff at its peak. Sam Cummings hired and fired management himself. While casting Virginian Dragoon frames was sub-contracted to Hitchner Corporation, final machining of the frames was done in the Midland factory.

The adjustable sighted Virginian Dragoon, which was similar in size to the Super Blackhawk, replaced the smaller fixed sight Virginian that Interarms previously imported from Switzerland. Both had a "Swiss safety" that was designed so the Swiss built revolvers would pass the Gun Control Act of 1968's drop test. With the hammer at half cock the center pin could be slipped rearward to a second holding notch. In that position it blocked the hammer going all the way forward. Very few owners used it. Virginian Dragoons had a little longer hammer fall and slower lock time than most other single actions. Like S&W .45 Colts manufactured during the same time period Virginian Dragoons chambered for that cartridge had large throats. However, none of that was significant to me. My .44 magnum Virginian Dragoon was a good revolver.
 
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I guess the Swiss-safe was a simple way to add a positive drop safety. I don't think any other SA revolver used it. Undoubtedly it was effective, but slow to disengage if you needed to use your gun in a hurry. Sort of like the new S&W lock, but at least the Swiss-safe didn't require a key.
 
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