Say what you may. I love this gun and it is my number one weapon inside my truck.

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I say... more power to ya, use what you like! My truck gun is often a $1000+ 1911 in .45ACP. Then again, I don't leave my guns out in my truck, so my truck gun can be anything I want.

I keep it within my top center storage bin out of site. Since I can't carry at work and often work in the ghetto parts of the city I want something for protection.

When I can carry my pocket will be the M&P 380 Bodyguard and my primary carry which I just ordered will be the XD-40 mod2.

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Everything I have ever heard about Hi-Points is that they are ugly, bulky, cheaply made and cheaply priced, absolutely zero bragging rights for owning one, .... but they function reliably. They don't break down, they don't blow up, and they rarely fail.

For a truck gun, the cheaper and junkier the better, so long as it functions and fires reliably. No big loss if someone breaks into your vehicle and steals it. I think a Hi-Point is a good choice.

I have shot everything the Army had to offer and I will put my Hi Point against anyone with any expensive 45 target to target. I had a DE44. Hated it. Had a Colt 70 Series it was good, not my favorite. Being an officer, we were issued the M9, it was ok, again not my favorite. Had a Ruger SA 41 mag which I used in competition shooting, loved it. Love my M&P 380 and will love my XD-40 mod2. I don't care if its ugly with zero glam. It shoots damn well, never fails and has a lifetime replacement warranty.

My priority: Reliable and hits the kill zone every time I fire. But I also love PBR, Makers Mark and Laphroaig scotch.

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If its stolen, Hi Point will replace it even better.

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How about a Norinco? Fires every time I pull the trigger. Never hiccuped, no matter what I fed it. Can't hit the side of a barn with it but WTH. It will scare the **** out of most Ner' do wells and maybe hit one of them..

Hi Points are like an ugly girl. You only take her out after dark or throw her on the floorboard.
All kidding aside I have yet to hear the Hi Point is not reliable. Personally I don't want to throw a thousand dollar gun under the seat.

I knew we had an instant connection from just reading your first post. I've got your "6" anytime you are 'operating' in the Las Vegas Area.... :-)

I have a 3 year old Hi Point carbine that my nephews torture and it refuses to fail. I'm a believer.

PS: PBR has never let me down either.

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My truck gun:

Many people want only inexpensive items in their truck and for good reason. However I lean the other way. I have nothing but top quality tools in my vehicles. Snap-On and S-K wrenches, Rigid pipe wrenches, Case knives, Ray-Bans, ice bar chains, ect. I find myself in the most unusual situations in the most unusual locations and I want to be ready. I refuse to bet my life on cheap tools. Just 2 days ago I found myself trying to save a car that had skidded off a rock wall. I was under the front of the car as it was teetering back and forth. I finally got the car jacked and blocked so it could be skidded sideways by winch. All the while I was waddling around on my back and stomach in snow. I could not imagine doing stuff like this with tools that may or may not work. The wife only got pictures after it was blocked up. She missed the part where my truck was tied onto the back of the car to keep it from going over, and the right front wheel dangling over the wall. I don't know why this type of stuff follows me around but it does quite regularly. Back to truck guns, because I am often way back yonder in the hills, a pre 64 model 94 Winchester and a Marlin 39 carbine resides under the seat at all times. My everyday drive vehicle has a Smith & Wesson model 539 under the front seat and a Kimber model 84, 223 Rem in the back. But I live in an area where theft is quite uncommon. I believe I would buy myself a Hi-Point to keep in my truck if I lived in other parts of the world. I have heard every bad thing imaginable about the gun's ugly appearance. But I have also never heard of one malfunctioning. Ugly but reliable has been said about me too.

I don't find fault with someone who keeps a rifle in their truck. I grew up around farmers and a filled rifle rack in the back window was a common sight. These were just working tools. Of course back then, nobody bothered them. I sure wouldn't do that today.
I admit that I keep a little AR-7 under my own back seat. Its just there if I should need it.
More than likely, if a common hunting type rifle is stolen, it will be sold for the cash. But I don't believe I'd leave something along the lines of an AR, AK or similar in my vehicle. Too tempting for a thief.

But a handgun, no way. I'd also think hard about a shotgun. These are preferred weapons of the bad guys.
Police officers have told me that the vast majority of stolen gun reports that they do have the weapon stolen out of a vehicle.
Oh sure, your truck gun is a cheap, easily replaced but reliable gun that you won't be too worried about loosing. I'm sure that will be a great comfort to the unfortunate victim that finds it stuck in their face.

Sawed off Win Mod 12 behind the seat for about 15 years.

Very well aged Ruger Black Hawk 357 under the dash.

Growing up on a ranch in Kansas my dad (as did most of us ranchers) carry guns on our window gun rack. He had two: a Remington model 742 30-06 with scope and a Winchester Model 12, 12ga. I had a Marlin 336 30-30.

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Good point and have tossed that dilemma around in my head many times. However when I do work in the inner city I do park in a secured and monitored area and lock it in an under seat storage bin if I am away for hours. Otherwise, it is kept as I stated above.

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I am surprised to see all the people who state the Hi-Points function flawlessly. It has been the opposite in my experience, but every gun is different I suppose.

In fact, the Hi-Point C9 was my first handgun. My dad gave it to me for Christmas some time after he won it for next to nothing. I got my permit and planned for it to be my first CCW.

Upon range practice, it was the worst operating gun I have ever fired. It would jam ALL the time. From stove pipes to FTE. Although, I am almost certain it was because of the very cheap factory mags. It came with one and my wife bought me a 2nd one straight from HP. Neither would function reliably. Didn't matter the ammo used.

Then one day while shooting it, the mag would just fall out. I discovered it was due to the mag retention setup they employ, which again is very cheaply done with a wire spring. Called HP and they sent me all the replacement parts for the retention. I installed them and that issue is resolved, but I don't trust it going forward. I also don't trust the feeding and mag issues.

Not a gun to trust my life with. I immediately went out to purchase a good gun I can fully rely on, and found that with my Beretta PX4 Storm compact. Have never looked back at the HP. Thought about selling it for $100 a couple times.

Maybe with aftermarket mags it would function great. However, I still wouldn't fully trust it with the other issues I had. Just built way too cheap for me. If it works for someone else, more power to you.

After I got that Beretta, I made my way into vintage revolvers. Needless to say my Beretta doesn't get carried much anymore. I never need to worry about one of my vintage Colts failing me.

I don't do truck guns. Took too many vehicle burglary reports in my day and have too many cop friends still working the road to possibly arm some dirtbag with one of my hard earned firearms. My guns go where I go.

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Not for me. I can't due to driving a lot to many different places. Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out just what to do with my carry gun let alone a second firearm

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I like the grips on your hi point best looking hi point I ever saw, I to have respect for the high point, they are tough reliable guns that serve well,

like me! they are not much to look at and oversized but still reliable

don't own one and never have, but I can say the same about a lot of guns on the higher side of the money scale.

while my truck gun chances with the seasons,

I do have a old b model Star that resides in a 50 Cal ammo can on my go to tractor, its been there for decades and looks it, but it still shoots when I need it to as long as I stay with a fmj round, your hi point seems to work with hollow points which is something the 1911 patterned star has never done

I have 0 experience with HP pistol. I have a HP carbine here that has had MANY thousand of rounds through it. I have never seen it malfunction except when shooting steel cased ammo and FTFs. Not the gun's fault. One of my guys is a lineman. One of his crew found on in a roadside ditch. It was a MESS. Rusted shut. He sent it to HP and within a week had a NEW carbine. The early ones are referred to around here as "monkey rifles". They were used in the movies Planet of the Apes. The one we have is slicked of all sights and has a $30 red dot on it. You can had it to folks with no firearms knowledge and watch them light up as they hear Ding, ding,ding on the steel. All up this carbine was bought from a LGS for $75. Great to introduce people to shooting.

I don't have much experience with hi-points, but I have never heard of a reputable defense instructor carry or recommend them. I'm also not aware of any police or military use of them. There is likely a very good reason for that. I have read a couple of articles on them over the years and none spoke highly of them. I just watched Hickok45's video on a hi-point 9mm last night and his review was definately less than favorable, which also tells me a lot since he rarely bad mouths any firearm.

If I was going to get a "truck gun"(which I'm not and think it is a bad idea in general), my life could possibly depend on that firearm and I would want the same high quality as the gun I carry or use for home protection. I would never bet my life on a cheap, inferior gun if I could help it.

No offense, just my perspective and carry on as you see fit.

My exact thoughts.

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Military..Police use..self defense..instructor recommended..My goodness, does anybody just shoot for fun anymore?? Does every gun have to be for rapelling off a burning building with your hair on fire while shooting suppressed full auto military, police, instructor weapons? Take a breath, lighten up, enjoy the fellowship of shooters. I have 6 here now. I can hear the steel dinging and much laughter.
No offense, just my perspective and carry on as you see fit.

The OP states that the hi-point is kept in the truck as a defense weapon, so my response was in that context accordingly.

Everyone derives their enjoyment from guns differently. I have little interest in casual plinking or a guns aesthetics as many on this forum do. Highly efficient self-defense weapons are the only guns I'm interested in and all my shooting is the context of self-defense. There is a potential practical benefit, but that is what I actually enjoy pursuing as well.

I'm 65 and have never owned a semi auto handgun or never really wanted one. I also thought it is proper and safer not to say anything derogatory about anyone's choice of how they arm themselves. I've seen the Hickok 45 video shooting the Hi Point, and he said he wanted to hate it, but couldn't. A good way to get by in life is always keep your words soft and sweet, 'cause you never know when you might have to eat em'.

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I don't have a truck gun because I don't own a truck.

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I bought a gun to shoot targets. Its' primary use has been and will be shooting holes in paper. Ruger SR 1911. It rides in the truck with me in case I decide to shoot paper targets. Made a couple of nice holsters that are very comfortable so I carry it most places I go. In case I decide to go target shooting. If I ever have to defend myself, it will be with my target gun. Not my self defense weapon. The extra mags on my belt are there because the range charges by the hour, and I go to shoot targets, not spend my time loading magazines.

So you found Hickoks review to be positive? If so, I feel like we watched two completely different videos. I am not generally persuaded all that much by Hickok45's opinion, but specifically mentioned his video because he hardly says a negative word about any gun. The fact he bad mouthed the hi-point so strongly, tells me a lot about it. Listen to his comments he makes starting at 20:00. Not exactly a glowing endorsement. Plus he had multiple problems(such as the slide failing to release when locked back) throughout the video.

Is Hickok the Guru we seek to please??

In the truck or under it. I have seen more of those used in crimes in law enforcement that I care to remember. Like Forest Gump's mother used to say, "Stupid is as stupid does." If you are betting your life on a gun then that would not be my first or last choice. The only way I would carry that is if it came with another gun like a Smith or a Glock. I would rather carry a S&W 22 mag revolver than that. It is just a throwaway gun.

...well said. Heck, most every "reputable" civilian instructor I've met was a sketchy 'big D' shill-type, and firearms was his way of trying to convince the world of how big his cholla was.

If I was going to stash a vehicle gun, it would be something like OP's choice. I'd make sure it functioned reliably and was secure like any other firearm, but I wouldn't worry it picking up dings or finish damage.

...just my perspective, carry on...

Hooah Spooah!

I am NOT a fan of this pistol, but I see a lot of them at gun shows.
So,,,there is definitely a market for them.
Yes, a lot of them get used by the "ghetto rats".
Maybe that is what the manufacturer intended?

No, just someone whose opinion, based on extensive experience, is often of value.

Like I said before, the only reason I referenced the Hickok45 video was because he hardly ever bad mouths firearms and for him to rip on one like he did the hi-point, I figure it must be really bad. After watching the video, I can see it is.

There are a lot of fine defensive shooting trainers out there whose opinion I would recommend considering, some of whom I have had the privilege of receiving instruction from. Men like Massad Ayoob, Rob Pincus, Ernest Langdon, Chuck Taylor, Marty Hayes, Greg Ellifritz, Claude Werner, Paul Carlson, Grant Cunningham, Mike Seeklander, Tom Givens just to name a few. None have ever carried or recommended a hi-point pistol as far as I know. To completely dismiss their advice and opinion, especially when it's unanimous, is not wise if your goal is choosing a quality defense weapon.

If someone buys a gun just for fun or to target shoot with, then it doesn't matter what they choose. However, if its intended use is self-defense, then it matters very much what firearm they pick. It's an instructors responsibility to help students make smart, informed decisions not pacify or justify bad ones to avoid hurt feelings since their students life could very well depend on it.

When the context is discussing suitable weapons, a gun is just a tool. Yet some people act like their child was insulted if someone disagrees with their choice. None of it should be taken personally.

I was half expecting to see something like this



While I don't have a dedicated "truck gun", I'd probably pick up a Glock of some type for the leave it there duty.

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My truck gun is the one I am carrying when I am driving my truck. My guns don't live in my truck, they live on my person.

Luckily I can carry almost everywhere I go on a daily basis, so no Truck Gun for me.

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Glenn
FAS1 SAFE

Colonel:

I absolutely agree with you about the Laphroaig!!

See, reasonable men can always find a point of agreement!!!

I'm just kidding...I have a friend who swears by the Hi Points, and he has a wealth of experience and knowlege to back him up. I just have never had any personal experience with them. I'm sure that they are capable and reliable firearms.

Best Regards, Les

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The C9 mags are partly to fault and it is not every C9. You can fix the mags with different springs, polish the ramp and they will shoot as you want. Every weapon can be ammo specific. I already know WHAT NOT to shoot in the M&P 380 Bodyguard. I had stovepipes in my 1911. Hell I had issues with my M9 and 16. PMCS the weapon. Get the correct ammo. It will shoot to kill. OR shoot to plink. As I stated above I had a DE 44mag. Biggest *** weapon I ever owned, hated it so much I gave it to friend.

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Hickok45. HMMMMPH. Well I have watched his videos and he rarely says anything nice about any weapon unless its a Glock. There is always something about the weapon he reviews that he complains about. I don't buy my guns based from YouTube reviewers. I buy weapons based on my needs and likes. Not a fan of Hickok45. Anyone can shoot any gun at a stationary target. Put that same person in a combat do or die situation, it is a whole different story when it come to firing your weapon to kill or protect or both.

Actually his ONLY complaints about the HP were that it was ugly and heavy and why people would want to buy one. He never bad mouthed it as a ***. It shot and it hit the targets. Give Hickok45 a Glock or a SIG and he's all about the praise.

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In Kansas and Missouri you do not need a CCL to carry, however I am getting one. Before I left for the military I had a Class 1 & 3 FFL as a gunsmith which I will be getting again.

My primary carry (when it comes) is the Springfield XD-40 mod 2, earthtone. My pocket will be the M&P 380 BG. I already carry an auto knife for close quarters if I need it and an X26C in my left front pocket. My truck weapon is just an additional piece if I am driving in BFE or outlying areas.

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Good one.

By the way. No personal insult has been taken by any of those posting replies here. I read and take mental notes. I am however very passionate about what I do. Had to be in the Army to survive. So what I post here I own it as if it were a bottle of Arbeg Supervova 2009.

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My truck weapon is what ever i'm packing when i'm in my truck. Just a fact!

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This P85 Ruger must have been someones truck gun for a long time. At least you wouldn't have to worry about scratching him up.
Peace,
Gordon

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Well, I've had my Hi Point C-9 for about 6 years now. It has resided in my truck every single day & night. I've put around 500 rounds thru it and have absolutely never had an issue. It is NOT my primary defense weapon. My regular carry guns are something else. But there are times when working that I can not carry on my person, so the C-9 is there in reserve just in case.

The Hickok45 video was a hoot, "this gun is very streamlined....that's a joke". That was really the first video of his that I saw him really making fun and bashing a gun. He wasn't impressed with it that was for sure.

If that's your take, so be it.
I saw it differently. He pointed out some of the nice features.
Of course the best evaluation is for each individual to handle one.